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Thread: what about this template?

Eskie
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:30 am
#66



Geodan wrote:

any more constructive comments?





Its the template I am going for currently and hope I will get there before states are fixed and I have to drop Defender or Cloak to get Healer xxx4



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-Acu-
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:31 am
#67

you should go


4040 defender


0404 lightsaber

4404 enhancer

4000 healer

0400 powers


w00t ubber temp there major benefits but a lil bit on the low side of max force but can be fun and ubber if there is enough sp for it.

Cellieb
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:32 am
#68






Geodan wrote:





KeeferKman wrote:

Oh yeah, to the original poster... You are on the same page as me


your are contemplating the same template I am. I have Pre-CU pearls, so L0400 is plenty dps, especially when they fix the speed bug...Only difference in my template (possibly) is this


P0404 and L0400


instead of


P0400 and L0404 (that last +25 block is really not that important, and saber throw w/o KD is really not important)


Area KD ...wow, just seems so fun, if you PvP










that sounds interesting ... I wonder what the difference in force cost would be to use Force Knockdown vs the Saber?





I have the exact template as the first poster suggests and it is awesome. Everything you need to PvE and PvP.


With synthsteak as a backup I can solo Giant Krayts and Jedi Knight NPC's in PvE and with cloak/stasis and LS 0404 I can beat nearly any jedi 1v1 other than a Defender/MLS with a good saber who knows how to PvP and even then its close (besides I can statis, /strut and then FR3 or cloak as I wish.


I would not recommend dropping the tech line of saber tho. You get saber sweep there which is a single target KD which wont aggro anything else in PvE, and in PvP any area attack risks breaking stasis or paralyse that some of your allies may have applied = VERY irritating. Also, improved saber throw, whilst not being a KD, is a very powerful ranged attack. The damage got bumped up to be the same as headhit and they are on different timers. If you only have 0400 (which I did when I was MP) you cant attack fast enough just rotating headhit & power attack to be as efficient in PvP and will get taken out by other jedi.


Stick with MEnhancer, LS 0404, Healer 4000, Defender 0040 and Powers 0400 - take it from me its just about the best all round template there is. NOONE likes fighting me


Message Edited by Cellieb on 08-24-2005 03:35 PM



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Geodan
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:03 am
#69






-Acu- wrote:

you should go


4040 defender


0404 lightsaber

4404 enhancer

4000 healer

0400 powers


w00t ubber temp there major benefits but a lil bit on the low side of max force but can be fun and ubber if there is enough sp for it.






yeah it gives more defense, but I lose some key things that attracted me to the other template, such as Stasis. Also, you only get FR2 and if I am going to have to give up damage output I would rather have FR3 instead.


thanks,





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Geodan
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:22 am
#70








Cellieb wrote:


I have the exact template as the first poster suggests and it is awesome. Everything you need to PvE and PvP.


With synthsteak as a backup I can solo Giant Krayts and Jedi Knight NPC's in PvE and with cloak/stasis and LS 0404 I can beat nearly any jedi 1v1 other than a Defender/MLS with a good saber who knows how to PvP and even then its close (besides I can statis, /strut and then FR3 or cloak as I wish.


I would not recommend dropping the tech line of saber tho. You get saber sweep there which is a single target KD which wont aggro anything else in PvE, and in PvP any area attack risks breaking stasis or paralyse that some of your allies may have applied = VERY irritating. Also, improved saber throw, whilst not being a KD, is a very powerful ranged attack. The damage got bumped up to be the same as headhit and they are on different timers. If you only have 0400 (which I did when I was MP) you cant attack fast enough just rotating headhit & power attack to be as efficient in PvP and will get taken out by other jedi.


Stick with MEnhancer, LS 0404, Healer 4000, Defender 0040 and Powers 0400 - take it from me its just about the best all round template there is. NOONE likes fighting me



Message Edited by Cellieb on 08-24-200503:35 PM






Sounds great and thanks for the comments ...


one final question I have is how much of a better saber can you create at MLS versus LS 0404? I have been debating on taking an intermediate step of getting MLS just to craft a much better saber (lower FC & SAC with maybe slightly higher dmg) then converting back to this final temp. I still have my token respec and only 2 skill points left to allocate so I am essentially full temp (though not where I want it to be and not master of anything), so my thought is to maybe respec to MLS and enough Enh boxes so my regrind is not that great, or just grind straight through to MLS. My current temp is DEF 0240, LS 0443, ENH 3402, POW 0400.


thanks again for all the help and comments




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RebelArchAngel
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:35 am
#71






KeeferKman wrote:





Ginx wrote:







Geodan wrote:
Hi what do you all think about this template? I am looking for Pro's Cons and anyone who actually has it and what their experience has been (PvP, PvE & vs. BH)? It seems like it might be a fun temp.

Master Enhancer
LS 0404
Def 0040
Heal 4000
Powers 0400


Thanks






That is actually a nice template idea, its a bit different not all that common.


Pro's:

Force Aura

Force Speed 2

Force Run 3

Cloak

Stasis

Improved Supression

Force Armor


Con's:

Force Heavy

Less damage then your FOTM MLS Template (although made up for with all of the enhancing moves, and the ability to first strike - force cloak)


Bounty Hunter's shold not bother you at all....even if you begin to lose you have the ability to root/stasis/force run 3/cloak; taking away their first strike ability as soon as you cloak. With Force speed 2 on your damage should be good enough to take down a BH just fine.


All in all I would definitely try it in my opinion looks to be a valid template not to mention fun. Im not sure I would be inclined to tank with it in PvE but if you did I think you would do fine. Awesome PvP build in my opinion.

Message Edited by Ginx on 08-23-2005 10:43 PM



Dude, I'm speachless...you sig says Jedi Knight (?) Such an intelligent answer, untilI read you think you can take down a BH with FR2 on?LOL w/90% dmg reduction? Most jedi can't take easily take down the new MCM/BH's with everything working perfectly, much less wiht FR2 on. Ok to give advise, if you know what your talking about.






u moron, he said force speed, not run... read



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RebelArchAngel
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:36 am
#72






Geodan wrote:

any more constructive comments?









it seems like an interesting and fun template... mine's MLS/MP/enh 2xx3/nov healer...noone likes it but who cares... the best temp is a temp u like that has the skills that make it fun



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Geodan
Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:28 am
#73








Cellieb wrote:


I have the exact template as the first poster suggests and it is awesome. Everything you need to PvE and PvP.


With synthsteak as a backup I can solo Giant Krayts and Jedi Knight NPC's in PvE and with cloak/stasis and LS 0404 I can beat nearly any jedi 1v1 other than a Defender/MLS with a good saber who knows how to PvP and even then its close (besides I can statis, /strut and then FR3 or cloak as I wish.






Can you give me a run through of what you do with this temp to solo Krayts and Knights? I would like to learn a typical attack sequence from start to finish that is most effective.


thanks for your help!







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crunchy212
Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:32 am
#74

Dude, I'm speachless...you sig says Jedi Knight (?) Such an intelligent answer, untilI read you think you can take down a BH with FR2 on?LOL w/90% dmg reduction? Most jedi can't take easily take down the new MCM/BH's with everything working perfectly, much less wiht FR2 on. Ok to give advise, if you know what your talking about.




notice how the poster said force speed not force run





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Geodan
Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:54 am
#75

up



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Cellieb
Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:04 pm
#76

From the template you had I would grind to MLS now - make at least one of each saber style to the best you can (you never know when you may need it and you wont have MLS again) then respec to your template choice. By this time you will have plenty of time to think it over too, and MLS is a real nice mastery to have


As for the krayts and DJK's it does help to have a pre CU saber like me I should point out The attack sequence doesn't really matter but you do need at least sabers 0404 or you wont be able to attack fast enough as per my first post. Other than that you need to keep armour break applied at all times and KD with sweep every 30 seconds. Aura and force armour on, put synth on your toolbar for when you get a beating and make sure you heal when you need it. With practice its actually not that hard. Krayts are really quite easy to solo. It does suck force using the force armour though so you need to rest after every 2 krayts.


Its a cool temp, if you like it do it bro.





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Geodan
Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:53 pm
#77

thanks for the comments






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