Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH Vs Jedi
Jmasta-hibe wrote:
The Jedi is put on the BH terminals as punishment for gaining vis.
There should be no Reward except living longer, while still paranoid.
Actually Jedi are put on the terminals as way to balance the power one is supposed to have over non-Jedi. It is not a form of punishment because if it was when you finished grinding you would be in a constant state of punishment.
If things remain as they are on test (hopefully not, can't believe things will not change)where Ranged BH > most/all Jedi templates, I think the devs need to reevaluate the current BH/Jedi system.
Deathtomelee wrote:
Gilbert45 wrote:
Devoe wrote:
There is nothing they can do for jedi, because it would be exploited to hell if they got xp for killing bhs. It would not be fair to punish a BH he is just doing what his profession is intented for.
So is the jedi.
yes, but how many BH do you see getting free inv xp by killing willing jedi? Or the BH that get crazy ammounts of money by killing the same willing jedi all the time?
You don't, because the cost is too high for a jedi to do this, but any jedi that has a bh friend could easily do this.
That is why you will not be rewarded for killing a BH (other than getting frs, which i think that you should get for killing any BH, just more for an MBH)
As I was reviewing my last post an idea came to me. Jedi gain visibility from being seen, etc. and as a result are turned in to the authorities which essentially make them marked men. I was brainstorming the entire vis system and trying to some how relate it to BH failure. It most certainly would be abused if vis was reset upon BH failure. So, how to counter that and include some sort of punishment for BH's for failure?
How about a reputation system for BH's? The more jedi you kill the better your reputation gets. More rep for high level jedi than low level jedi of course. And you lose rep when defeated by a jedi, amount also determined by level of jedi. Lose too many times or your rep drops to a certain level and you are no longer allowed to take jedi missions for a certain amount of time or until you complete so many regular BH missions. Wouldn't a BH who keeps failing missions no longer be hired to perform the job? You can even take Jedi missions completely out of the Investigation line and institute a BH ranking system. This system being tiered just like FRS and progressive special abilities or mods granted to BH at each level. One of those abilities being the higher you progress you gain more and more ability to hunt different skill levels of jedi. So, rank 0 members of this system would only be able to hunt padawans. Rank 1 completed template padawans, rank 2 knights, and so on. You get the point.
Wouldn't this give more meaning and purpose to the BH profession? As well as give them more content? As well as give incentive to see the mission through? As well as implementing a penalty for failure? Just brainstorming here and kicking out ideas.
AndrewM wrote:
Devoe wrote:
There is nothing they can do for jedi, because it would be exploited to hell if they got xp for killing bhs. It would not be fair to punish a BH he is just doing what his profession is intented for.
total BS..that is such crap..the way this game is played and the devs just keep screwing it up more..first there is no freakin content..what do we get to do..pvp, watch our radar for BH'ers, and kill voritor trackers..whoopti, whoo...oh i know here is a idea about add some damn content..! how about adding bonuses and penalties to peeps that engage pvp..but put limits on it when it comes to FRS..fightclubbing i just cant understand how it is allowed..and i totally feel that if a BH dies to a jedi that they should lose something..and jedi not being able to help one another..bullshti...who ever thought of this crap, is a complete idiot../insert name of dev!
I do think people should be able to help you, it is stupid that you have to fight alone. However why shoulda Bounty Hunter lose anything for dieing to you? A jedi is the one who started it by getting on the terms. Most bhs are the underdog in any fight they have with a jedi. When any of you started jedi you knew as well as i did that BH would be able to hunt you if you have an issue with it then you never should have done the work for Jedi. I am so tired of people complaining about it, It is the way the game is if you don't like it then just stop playing. Oh and for fight club, Masters are not that much stronger then other jedi, They just use force alot faster. I also feel that SOE never should have told anyone how to get jedi.... It could have stayed by professions just have some sort of random timer before they let one know they unlocked a FS slot so that they could not directly relate it to professions. Everyone wanted to be an almighty jedi so SOE did not have to put content into a game, They knew they could use the popularity of Jedi and Star Wars to make them millions of dollars with minimal effort.
so now my scattered thought process of ideas is done
I guess one penalty that could work for the BH/Jedi fights would be, Once you Kill a bounty hunter they can not get your mission ever again, They are dead after all.....
Josha wrote:
I've been thinking of this topic all afternoon. It is very one-sided and unfair that if a Jedi is killed by a BH his lose his huge, but if a BH fails he loses nothing. The BH goes unpaid but that is nothing that he didn't have to begin with.
As I was reviewing my last post an idea came to me. Jedi gain visibility from being seen, etc. and as a result are turned in to the authorities which essentially make them marked men. I was brainstorming the entire vis system and trying to some how relate it to BH failure. It most certainly would be abused if vis was reset upon BH failure. So, how to counter that and include some sort of punishment for BH's for failure?
How about a reputation system for BH's? The more jedi you kill the better your reputation gets. More rep for high level jedi than low level jedi of course. And you lose rep when defeated by a jedi, amount also determined by level of jedi. Lose too many times or your rep drops to a certain level and you are no longer allowed to take jedi missions for a certain amount of time or until you complete so many regular BH missions. Wouldn't a BH who keeps failing missions no longer be hired to perform the job? You can even take Jedi missions completely out of the Investigation line and institute a BH ranking system. This system being tiered just like FRS and progressive special abilities or mods granted to BH at each level. One of those abilities being the higher you progress you gain more and more ability to hunt different skill levels of jedi. So, rank 0 members of this system would only be able to hunt padawans. Rank 1 completed template padawans, rank 2 knights, and so on. You get the point.
Wouldn't this give more meaning and purpose to the BH profession? As well as give them more content? As well as give incentive to see the mission through? As well as implementing a penalty for failure? Just brainstorming here and kicking out ideas.
I think this is a good idea, You could even put bounty hunters on the bounty hunter terminals along with smugglers, jedi are not the only people that BHs would be hired to kill. Make the smuggler profession worth having and put them on the terms as well, along with maybe high ranking people of each faction. oh another random thought make the GCW have more of a purpose other then you get cheaper bases if you are winning the war so it is even easier for you to keep the lead. sorry i don't get that.
I think this is a good idea, You could even put bounty hunters on the bounty hunter terminals along with smugglers, jedi are not the only people that BHs would be hired to kill. Make the smuggler profession worth having and put them on the terms as well, along with maybe high ranking people of each faction. oh another random thought make the GCW have more of a purpose other then you get cheaper bases if you are winning the war so it is even easier for you to keep the lead. sorry i don't get that.
Great Ideas Devoe! Earlier in this thread I did suggest to put BH themselves on the terms for failure. The idea of putting smugglers on BH terms as well is a very cool idea. With some of the smuggler revamp documents put out a few weeks ago they did mention that if smugglers failed too many times they would be hunted by NPC bounty hunters. I'm sure they could take these ideas and change that to PC bounty hunters.
warlordofresistance wrote:
Shouldent there be a reward to Jedi that defeats the BH thats running a missions against him.
I mean BH gets cash if he gets the Jedi, If the BH dies he dont lose anything.
Shouldent the Jedi get xp points for every BH that he kills ?
Like 150k jedi xp from slaying one BH, or BH maybe taken away from the ability to hunt Jedi for 1 week ?
Deathtomelee wrote:
Gilbert45 wrote:
Devoe wrote:
There is nothing they can do for jedi, because it would be exploited to hell if they got xp for killing bhs. It would not be fair to punish a BH he is just doing what his profession is intented for.
So is the jedi.
yes, but how many BH do you see getting free inv xp by killing willing jedi? Or the BH that get crazy ammounts of money by killing the same willing jedi all the time?
You don't, because the cost is too high for a jedi to do this, but any jedi that has a bh friend could easily do this.
That is why you will not be rewarded for killing a BH (other than getting frs, which i think that you should get for killing any BH, just more for an MBH)
Message Edited by daz007 on 04-20-2005 07:12 PM