Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: IM REALLY PISSED!....
IMO, you need to do 4 things to be somewhat successful. Here they are.
1.) Pick a template and stick with it. Don't let the "FOTM's" keep you changing. Otherwise you're never going to as some say, "learn your profession."
2.) Read your as* off. These boards are a fantastic source of information. Read, read, and then when you're done, read some more. Find out new tactics, what other people are doing, etc...
3.) Get equipment. Like others have said, you NEED a good gun, food, and armor to be able to hang. No way around it..Get some money, in which ever fashion you need to, hit up the trade forums, get a WS to make you an awesome gun, buy some SEA's, and prepare yourself for war...
4.) Practice. Perhaps most importantly, you need to duel Jedi. You need to know their template as well as they do, and the only way that is accomplished is by dueling them. Get some guildies to take a night off, get in a guild hall (closed quarters yes, but if you win in one of those, you'll be better out in the open) and duel for a couple of hours...For one, it's fun as heck, and two, you'll see what works against Master Sabers, what doesn't work against Defenders, etc....Perparation is key my friend.
Do those, and report back to us in a month, I think you'll notice a difference.
my. 02
Jacella wrote:
OnmiScient wrote:
"Im really pissed"
Lay off the booze ?
The sad part is that most people who read this won't have a clue as to why this is funny.
Why is that sad?
Not all of us know British/Canadian slang. =]
Message Edited by GalacticBulge on 07-29-2005 02:22 PM
I did not read all of this.....because I promise you the problem is......
STALKING - It is all about the hunt, not the fight. Get into the role, it makes it a ton more fun and is the true meat and taters of the class IMO.I have chased marks over 15km on foot, over 7 planet hops, over house sit'n for 1hr+, it goes on and on, I do what it takes to complete the contract, but not hastefully with no regaurd to time'n. Don't try to get 5 missions done in one play session. Worry more about win/loss records over a long period of time, you will hit streaks. I'm somewhat known for swooping in at just the right time and for that reason have a decent win/loss. Some think I'm a great pvp player, but overall I think im just above par but my carefull planing of when to attack makes the difference. This will make you more effective then any template change or 'uber' weapon you pick up - although obviously some do work better then others.
It is all about timing. I generally spend a MINIMUM of 20-30m watching a mark from a 2km distance to see exactly what they are doing and go from there to decide on when to open up (when they are out planet grinding). I will wait to try to make sure the mark is fighting their current npc/mob in an area that promotes kite'n, mountain areas are a pita. If you can hide in a building in the city they are taking mission from, or even better by the mission terms they are use'n...sit in there w/a bomb droid and wait, does not take too long to do a max of 16 missions. Time KD+Detonation. If you are stalking in a city area and they are run'n macros, decide which one you want to KD right before it restarts, anything with a windup timer will now not be up for a few and alot of people dont notice it. These are just a few, list goes on forever.
When the circumstances are there you can easily make up for lack of firepower and you have 3 days to do it. I'm guessing I'm far from the norm here on this subject. Longest hunt to date for me is 2 full weeks - although not possible now. I get a biger kick of out quitely watching from affar then I ever do from complete'n the contract. I also feel this is why I have as much hate thrown at me as I do, I almost always get in the sucker punch. Youre scum, start acting like it 
{Side note, this /duel bug is KILLING me. I get checked all the time, it really is destroying alot of how I play my BH}
XGustaX wrote:
okay. I dont know whats wrong but everytime i go against a jedi Padawan,knight, or master i always end up loosing! This is really starting to piss me off cuz i can never win and its disgruging from hunt them. What the heck do i have to do to win geez im a MCM MBH and pistoleer xxx4. I use root shot i mis so much! i use debuffs all of them and they hardly do anything they just keep healing nothing they never waste action or mind! What the Heck im I suppose to do! tell me
You have the packet to kill them. You just have to learn how to use it. That goes with it all from food, to what weapon, to what attack pattern etc. As Mbh you can use aLighting Cannon. Get one fixed with tissues and you got a nice gun with 65 meters range. Root - kd and run outside hes melee range 32 meter and with your healing abilities and dots, paralyze etc.... its not a problem.
Learn how to use your skills and you will see them starting to die. You got all you need exept experiance and maybe equipment.
warrenbassist wrote:
Vecasius wrote:
Another respec who thinks killing jedi will be as easy as pve on dant...
Look... To be a successfull bh you need to be a good pvper to begin with, that takes practise. You also need good gear, that takes money.
Then just read the forums and go trial and error. And i do have to stress a good weapon is a must. The 15k unsliced carbs, rifles and pistols of the bazaar or vendors wont cut it in pvp. Esp not against Jedi. Go out and loot the tissues/components to make a nice weapon or check out the tradeforums and buy something deadly. That will cost you a few mil thou..
Its like Big DaddyBobba said "BHing aint easy"
It takes far more skill to be a BH than a Jedi. We have to buy the right foods know the best attacks and have to know what Jedi template we are fighting when the fight basically begins so we can adapt strategy. And we still may not even win.... Gods help us if a REAL BH ever goes Jedi.
You are so right about that...any idiot can become a full template Jedi but not just any non-jedi can kill a full template.
Jedi need 1.5 to win, we need "tactics"
Jedi do make me ill.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
Vecasius wrote:
Another respec who thinks killing jedi will be as easy as pve on dant...Look... To be a successfull bh you need to be a good pvper to begin with, that takes practise. You also need good gear, that takes money.Then just read the forums and go trial and error. And i do have to stress a good weapon is a must. The 15k unsliced carbs, rifles and pistols of the bazaar or vendors wont cut it in pvp. Esp not against Jedi. Go out and loot the tissues/components to make a nice weapon or check out the tradeforums and buy something deadly. That will cost you a few mil thou..Its like Big Daddy Bobba said "BHing aint easy"
It takes far more skill to be a BH than a Jedi. We have to buy the right foods know the best attacks and have to know what Jedi template we are fighting when the fight basically begins so we can adapt strategy. And we still may not even win.... Gods help us if a REAL BH ever goes Jedi.
You are so right about that...any idiot can become a full template Jedi but not just any non-jedi can kill a full template.Jedi need 1.5 to win, we need "tactics"
Jedi do make me ill.
And why should it make you ill? You are not required to take a Jedi mission and hunt him, that is something extra your profession has, the sole right to hault the progress of another. Step back from the situation for a second and observe it logically, should a class with the only method of preventing another class from reaching master not require skill to conduct that act? Or should it be a case of roll up, hit Jedi, collect reward like some of the total noob BH i have had come for me attempt to do?
One thing i do agree on is the fact that any fool can become a full template Jedi now, its the exact reason i will continue to say that skill loss should never have been taken away. Act dumb with skill loss and guess what? You never level. Two choices, learn or remain a noob forever. Also, as some of you BH know, not all Jedi are hopeless kash-noob, AFK, LoS, /respec, cry-baby Jedi. Some of us have been BH, have killed Knights as normal toons and even know how to PvP
my temp is:
MBH Mrifles pistols 0404
I use stims Ds and ruby for an instant stim, other foods and spice. I use DMG pups, aim when i can, duelstance, ranged shot, advanced crit, headshot, leg shot, startle/disarm, KD and root. I try to be quick and throw off their timing with startle/disarm.
I notice if i cycle advanced crit, and ranged shot i can keep my action pretty high. If they let me get them below half heath before healing i might Kd, headshot, startle and then crit shot to hope and finish them off. If they are rooted I might even /dive /startle /snipe but that takes a while and since any animation ruins snipe it kinda sucks mid battle. and if anything is in the way youll get the YOU CANT SEE THE TARGET even if its a small bump that you can actually see over.
BDragon wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
Vecasius wrote:
Another respec who thinks killing jedi will be as easy as pve on dant...
Look... To be a successfull bh you need to be a good pvper to begin with, that takes practise. You also need good gear, that takes money.
Then just read the forums and go trial and error. And i do have to stress a good weapon is a must. The 15k unsliced carbs, rifles and pistols of the bazaar or vendors wont cut it in pvp. Esp not against Jedi. Go out and loot the tissues/components to make a nice weapon or check out the tradeforums and buy something deadly. That will cost you a few mil thou..
Its like Big Daddy Bobba said "BHing aint easy"
It takes far more skill to be a BH than a Jedi. We have to buy the right foods know the best attacks and have to know what Jedi template we are fighting when the fight basically begins so we can adapt strategy. And we still may not even win.... Gods help us if a REAL BH ever goes Jedi.
You are so right about that...any idiot can become a full template Jedi but not just any non-jedi can kill a full template.
Jedi need 1.5 to win, we need "tactics"
Jedi do make me ill.
And why should it make you ill? You are not required to take a Jedi mission and hunt him, that is something extra your profession has, the sole right to hault the progress of another. Step back from the situation for a second and observe it logically, should a class with the only method of preventing another class from reaching master not require skill to conduct that act? Or should it be a case of roll up, hit Jedi, collect reward like some of the total noob BH i have had come for me attempt to do?
One thing i do agree on is the fact that any fool can become a full template Jedi now, its the exact reason i will continue to say that skill loss should never have been taken away. Act dumb with skill loss and guess what? You never level. Two choices, learn or remain a noob forever. Also, as some of you BH know, not all Jedi are hopeless kash-noob, AFK, LoS, /respec, cry-baby Jedi. Some of us have been BH, have killed Knights as normal toons and even know how to PvP
warrenbassist wrote:
BDragon wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
Vecasius wrote:
Another respec who thinks killing jedi will be as easy as pve on dant...
Look... To be a successfull bh you need to be a good pvper to begin with, that takes practise. You also need good gear, that takes money.
Then just read the forums and go trial and error. And i do have to stress a good weapon is a must. The 15k unsliced carbs, rifles and pistols of the bazaar or vendors wont cut it in pvp. Esp not against Jedi. Go out and loot the tissues/components to make a nice weapon or check out the tradeforums and buy something deadly. That will cost you a few mil thou..
Its like Big Daddy Bobba said "BHing aint easy"
It takes far more skill to be a BH than a Jedi. We have to buy the right foods know the best attacks and have to know what Jedi template we are fighting when the fight basically begins so we can adapt strategy. And we still may not even win.... Gods help us if a REAL BH ever goes Jedi.
You are so right about that...any idiot can become a full template Jedi but not just any non-jedi can kill a full template.
Jedi need 1.5 to win, we need "tactics"
Jedi do make me ill.
And why should it make you ill? You are not required to take a Jedi mission and hunt him, that is something extra your profession has, the sole right to hault the progress of another. Step back from the situation for a second and observe it logically, should a class with the only method of preventing another class from reaching master not require skill to conduct that act? Or should it be a case of roll up, hit Jedi, collect reward like some of the total noob BH i have had come for me attempt to do?
One thing i do agree on is the fact that any fool can become a full template Jedi now, its the exact reason i will continue to say that skill loss should never have been taken away. Act dumb with skill loss and guess what? You never level. Two choices, learn or remain a noob forever. Also, as some of you BH know, not all Jedi are hopeless kash-noob, AFK, LoS, /respec, cry-baby Jedi. Some of us have been BH, have killed Knights as normal toons and even know how to PvP
I'm sure it goes further than simple bounty hunting.I myself like to use everything I can in the game. The role Jedi have been givenat this point in time, unbalances the game making most normal classes "2nd class citizens".
Yep that's why. It's not because they are my opponents when I hunt them it's because they are f'ing up the game. It's nothing personal for each individual one....they make me ill as a whole.
Burke_RAID wrote:
I really dont see where people are having all these problems with killing high level marks.
I have killed multiple jedi 220-226k granted some were harder than others and I do die at times. But who wants to win every time I Bounty hunt for the challenge to kill these guys that some people think cannot be killed.
What it takes is a good weapon, Decent armor and a good template.
My template is MBH/Mcarbs/CM4000
And just must have the right foods and some dedication to get the job done.
These are the things I like to hear. Yeah, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. It's when you get a force cloak or force run 3 after spending all your time tracking your mark. If they put up a fight, win or lose, it's worth it. One thing I will NOT do is let the fight go on and on. I've got a "truce" macro. I know some people like to go 45 minutes (I've heard up to 90 mintues!) if my battle is longer than 10-15 minutes, I just get tired of it, run my truce macro, and say "good fight." I don't want a 45 minute stalemate. No Jedi has ever not taken me up on my offer. In fact,somejust sit down in my camp and have a nice chat about tactics and such.
Too many Jedi just cower away, while they have no cowardice showing off their sabres and uber skills in front of the starports. It's just idiotic.
XGustaX wrote:
okay. I dont know whats wrong but everytime i go against a jedi Padawan,knight, or master i always end up loosing! This is really starting to piss me off cuz i can never win and its disgruging from hunt them. What the heck do i have to do to win geez im a MCM MBH and pistoleer xxx4. I use root shot i mis so much! i use debuffs all of them and they hardly do anything they just keep healing nothing they never waste action or mind! What the Heck im I suppose to do! tell me
is it me or is thisa sarcastic post....
warrenbassist wrote:
Yeah I believe the number of DB's from BH to Jedi since pub 20 averages to ZERO. lolThe whole idea that BH vs Jedi is an even fight is complete BS, just to make you enjoy dying plain and simple.
Message Edited by TonieStark on 07-29-2005 12:11 PM