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Thread: Bounty Hunter News from FanFest

Kaukiji
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:24 am
#53



FernGully wrote:
my two cents...

- BH getting on the terms to be hunted by other BHs seems pretty retarded.

- Smuggler missions is a good idea, and far too long in the coming.

- Anonymous, 1on1 bounties is the right way to go, however unpopular it may be among certain segments of the BH community. It solves lots of problems (misusing the system to grief particular players, using friends/alts to hold missions, jedi fight clubbing w/ BH), and doesn't actually hurt anyone. Lets just hope the "Waaaa! Its not possible to solo a knight" whining doesn't wear down the dev's resolve on this.


personally i would not like to follow somone for 30 minutes to find out its actually my guild leader's husband...dunno about you, but THAT is just dumb.



Kaukiji Keasi
_Nightrunner_
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:26 am
#54

This is the nail in the coffin right here. They might as well drop every other profession and just focus on jedi. At least maybe they can get one of them done right.


Why dont they just make it so that once you unlock your jedi, nothing can kill you and you are in a "GOD" mode. That will be much simpler to maintain and the results wont be much different than they will be under this system, unless the jedi get a major nerf to healing.

Lotussutol
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:31 am
#55






Tanks wrote:

Several things were mentioned as possibilities by devs in various forums:



  • Possibility of combat rating getting one on BH Terminals if the combat rating is so high.

  • Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

  • Eliminating Jedi names and bounty amounts from terminals while listing faction and online status.

  • Making BH vs Jedi missions one on one somehow.

  • Adding Smuggler missions.

However, all of the above are more of a wish list at this time and are not on any schedule that has been revealed by devs.







Something that needs to happen if BH/Jedi fights are turned into one on one...Either Jedi have to be balanced as an elite combat class or all elite combat classes have to be balanced so a fully templated combat person is on a level playing field with a fully templated jedi. Anything less then that and one on one fighting will be a JOKE!


Maybe make it so that if a BH looks on the terminal they ONLY see jedi within a few combat levels of themselves...means lower lvl BH hunt lower lvl jedi and high lvl BH hunt high lvl jedi...once again...only if things are balanced though.


I would love it if failed BH missions would get a BH on the terminals too...and failed missions in general for all classes should get you on the BH terminals...not one failed mission...but a few failed missions in a certain amount of time.


A smuggler should be able to hack the system and manipulate information...a chance the payout would be reduced and or you get taken off the system...maybe even make it so a smuggler can hack the system and get the mission for a NON BH...but if a smuggler hacks the system there has to be a chance of the hack to be noticed and the smuggler ends up on the terminal too...



Cochba
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:33 am
#56

Several things were mentioned as possibilities by devs in various forums:



  • Possibility of combat rating getting one on BH Terminals if the combat rating is so high.

I like it.



  • Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

2 or more ( a little grace here)



  • Eliminating Jedi names and bounty amounts from terminals while listing faction and online status.

online and faction listed. NICE. Will not waste time on same faction tracking now.



  • Making BH vs Jedi missions one on one somehow.

AHAHAHAHA. Can u say griefing all padawans? The weak get weaker and more powerful get more powerful. I, in no way shape or form, can beat a MDef. Tired and Tried. Lets make Duelist Stand a +500 Aroma defense and make it active WHILE MOVING, gimme BH Vitamin of +25 Succeful Ranged Hit and we will talk.



  • Adding Smuggler missions.

They are a plague to peace and order. kill'em all.


However, all of the above are more of a wish list = never gonna happen, but we need to feed them their ideas back to them to make it seeeeeeem like we are listening. Let's go play our Jedis..





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FernGully
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:36 am
#57



Cochba wrote:
Several things were mentioned as possibilities by devs in various forums:
  • Possibility of combat rating getting one on BH Terminals if the combat rating is so high.

I like it.

  • Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

2 or more ( a little grace here)

  • Eliminating Jedi names and bounty amounts from terminals while listing faction and online status.

online and faction listed. NICE. Will not waste time on same faction tracking now.

  • Making BH vs Jedi missions one on one somehow.

AHAHAHAHA. Can u say griefing all padawans? The weak get weaker and more powerful get more powerful. I, in no way shape or form, can beat a MDef. Tired and Tried. Lets make Duelist Stand a +500 Aroma defense and make it active WHILE MOVING, gimme BH Vitamin of +25 Succeful Ranged Hit and we will talk.

  • Adding Smuggler missions.

They are a plague to peace and order. kill'em all.

However, all of the above are more of a wish list = never gonna happen, but we need to feed them their ideas back to them to make it seeeeeeem like we are listening. Let's go play our Jedis..






Just beware of the fact that if they make all the improvements to BH you ask for, and make you an even match for a Jedi Knight, the amount of the payout you receive will drop into the toilet. They can't won't reward you well for winning a fight in which you've got equal skills AND the ability to dictate the terms of combat.



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Kaukiji
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:36 am
#58



FernGully wrote:


Kaukiji wrote:


FernGully wrote:
my two cents...

- BH getting on the terms to be hunted by other BHs seems pretty retarded.

- Smuggler missions is a good idea, and far too long in the coming.

- Anonymous, 1on1 bounties is the right way to go, however unpopular it may be among certain segments of the BH community. It solves lots of problems (misusing the system to grief particular players, using friends/alts to hold missions, jedi fight clubbing w/ BH), and doesn't actually hurt anyone. Lets just hope the "Waaaa! Its not possible to solo a knight" whining doesn't wear down the dev's resolve on this.


personally i would not like to follow somone for 30 minutes to find out its actually my guild leader's husband...dunno about you, but THAT is just dumb.




So, it IS called bounty hunting, right? How can you call the hunting part of it a waste of time? Thats the content, man.

Beside, droids work awfully well now, aside from Kashyyk. If it takes you 30 minutes from the time you accept your mission to the time you locate your mark, you're probably doing something wrong.

But still, what's worse? You "wasting" 10-30 minutes of your time doing the hunting part of your Bounty Hunting, or someone having easy access to a way to harass/grief other players? Personally, I'd rather the former than the latter.


HUNTING A F***ing guildy dude! im not gonna KILL my guild leader's husband for crying out loud! i am all for hunting thats why i take 30 minutes, i track my mark keep an eye on them, watch which safe houses they use, teh shuttles tehy use to go off planet. i savor the hunt. but im not going to savor hte hunt just to see my mark and he is in my guild for crying out loud. it IS a waste of time tracking down my own guildy.



Kaukiji Keasi
FernGully
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:40 am
#59



Kaukiji wrote:


HUNTING A F***ing guildy dude! im not gonna KILL my guild leader's husband for crying out loud! i am all for hunting thats why i take 30 minutes, i track my mark keep an eye on them, watch which safe houses they use, teh shuttles tehy use to go off planet. i savor the hunt. but im not going to savor hte hunt just to see my mark and he is in my guild for crying out loud. it IS a waste of time tracking down my own guildy.




I heard you the first time. And like I said (and you seem to agree with), the hunting part is a big, fun portion of the content. Just cause you chose/choose not to actually engage the target doesn't negate that.



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Kaukiji
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:45 am
#60



FernGully wrote:


Kaukiji wrote:


HUNTING A F***ing guildy dude! im not gonna KILL my guild leader's husband for crying out loud! i am all for hunting thats why i take 30 minutes, i track my mark keep an eye on them, watch which safe houses they use, teh shuttles tehy use to go off planet. i savor the hunt. but im not going to savor hte hunt just to see my mark and he is in my guild for crying out loud. it IS a waste of time tracking down my own guildy.




I heard you the first time. And like I said (and you seem to agree with), the hunting part is a big, fun portion of the content. Just cause you chose/choose not to actually engage the target doesn't negate that.


i understand that, but there is still a lack of a feeling of accomplishment if i end up walking up to a dude i could have just /findfriended and who i would never dream of attacking.

i also use player-informants (like entertainers who usually hang out in certain cantinas) to keep an eye out for my mark. if i dont know the name, how can i do this? i just dont feel its right. perhaps give the name when you go to the spynet or maybe give the name when you reach the planet that your bounty is on.



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iijin
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:47 am
#61






Tanks wrote:

Several things were mentioned as possibilities by devs in various forums:



  • Possibility of combat rating getting one on BH Terminals if the combat rating is so high.

  • Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

  • Eliminating Jedi names and bounty amounts from terminals while listing faction and online status.

  • Making BH vs Jedi missions one on one somehow.

  • Adding Smuggler missions.

However, all of the above are more of a wish list at this time and are not on any schedule that has been revealed by devs.






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iijin
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:51 am
#62


From Jedi Forums*


I saw that Tanks already reported some of the Jedi related news from Fan Fest; but I thought I'd expand and clarify...



  • As Tanks said, Force Powers will likely soon see a 50% (or more) reduction in Force Powers.
  • As far as the Devs are concerned, Visibility is working as intended and there are no currently plans for any changes to the system at this point in time. The Devs did say that they'd review it though.
  • They said that elemental damage has been fixed (again) and should be going to test next week. This should give lightsabers about a 25% damage boost. On the flip side, no elemental damage is working anywhere so non-jedi weapons will be getting approximately the same boost.
  • The devs have stated that they are considering adding a mind cost to force healing to limit the amount of times a jedi can heal. They think that force heals are still to cheap and easy and are unbalanced. They seemed pretty set on this one.
  • They are currently looking into removing Jedi names and levels from the BH mission terminals. This way, a BH won't be able to bottom feed as easily as he won't know the strength of the mark until he actually finds and /cons him.
  • A bunch of new lightsaber animations should be hitting test center next week.
  • They are extending the cool down timer to Force Drain so that it isn't as spammable.
  • Force Run will be a toggled ability so that you can turn it on and off at will.
  • Force usage for Force Run will most likely be changing as well. There will be a lower initial cost for enabling FR, and then a small recurring cost to keep it going.


Now about FRS....


A new FRS design has been submitted to Lucas for approval. The number one goal of the new FRS wil be to stop fight clubbing. Since the design is still in the approval stage they wouldn't say much more about it. My guess though is that it will probably be at least a few months before FRS is re-enabled.


I specifically asked if Jedi will be able to respec again once FRS is turned back on, the dev said my suggestion would taken into consideration.


The other interesting note I took is that the devs realize that the Jedi/BH relationship is totally broken. They've come to the realization that pitting two types of players against each in such a violent way is not good for the game overall and that they are going to look into this at some point in the future. I doubt we'll see anything soon, but I recommended that simply removing names and leves from the terms would help alot, as would removing xp loss for BH deaths. If xp loss were to be removed, BH's would become more of a nuisance and reduce the overall tension immediately.




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black666label
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:16 am
#63






Tanks wrote:

Several things were mentioned as possibilities by devs in various forums:



  • Possibility of combat rating getting one on BH Terminals if the combat rating is so high.

  • Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

  • Eliminating Jedi names and bounty amounts from terminals while listing faction and online status.

  • Making BH vs Jedi missions one on one somehow.

  • Adding Smuggler missions.

However, all of the above are more of a wish list at this time and are not on any schedule that has been revealed by devs.







Those two bolded ones aren't on my wish list. I like to know the jedi's name. Online status name would be great. making BH vs Jedi missions one on one is BS cause then we'd never be able to kill a knight. I like grouping with a friend and going and taking out a knight. It's a lot of fun.


That one is alright i'd guess. But kinda stupid. I mean c'mon why put a guy on the terms for doing good? Then again if its normal players too i'm 100% for it.


Yay respec n00b killing time!!!! These guys are gonna stand there and attempt to fight you and get pwnt cause they're respec n00bs and don't know what they're doing.


I'd like to know how smugglers are gonna get termed? With jedi there is the visibility thing but what are they gonna do with smugglers?

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Binstubbs
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:35 am
#64






Colaboy wrote:

Lets not forget, once they fix the elemental damage, commando will be awesome...






As a Master Commando /Master Carbineer /Stalker, there is a great deal more that will need to be fixed before Commandos become "awesome". And after being master commando for 20 months, I wouldn't hold my breath, especially with this many dam jedi in the game.




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Binstubbs
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:40 am
#65

Chalk another one up for jedi vs every other profession. Not a single thing mentioned as "ideas" in anyway balances oor does anything other than makes life cozier for our whining baby jedi population. This game will be very much dead when all the people who do not have the time or lack of lives to grind out that class finally become fed up and will fail to see the point of sticking around.




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