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Thread: Remove easy ability to escape for every full temp...(not a big nerf request, just read)

Ademar
Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:07 pm
#53

I don't have the time to read threw 3 pages of this so i am sorry if this has been said but as a bh your job is to hunt down a jedi and kill him. This doesn't mean going head to head and winning or "catching up" with them as they run away. There is a thing called tactics. Attack the jedi when he does not expect it and is in a vulnerable state. (ie while dueling, waiting till they are weak in force from grinding a lair....etc). I myself have killed many jedi just by timing my attack (took only 2 shots most of the time). Yes they can run. Yes they can hide. But not all the time and when they arn't they will die. You cannot take their skills away because you don't like them. You definitly have the ability to kill a jedi you just have to fix your tactics. You can't kill something stronger then you by attacking headstrong. It takes timing and alittle thought to pull off a kill.



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JaymzRiken
Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:15 pm
#54

and what you call "tactics" i call the exact things that get the jedi crying all day, jumping them when low on force, jumping them when in a fight already, etc. My problem is, NO ONE ELSE can wait until such a low point ina fight, and still have amazing ability to escape. They get to tet the waters, TRY to win, then if they are losing they still can get away, its not like they can go "oh no! i waited too long"



and about the getting people to agree....



i've seen the most well thought out, intelligent posts get ripped to shreds on these forums time and time again, logic and good ideas have no place here, that was my mistake in coming here with this. I watcheda jedi post about a month ago how he thought mdefender needed a slight nerf and went over a bunch of detailed testing and such why, within minutes it was 50-60 posts telling him he was an idiot, stupid, a child, learn to play, etc etc....



mob mentality and argument from concensus are the weakest forms of argument by far






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VegitoSS
Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:23 pm
#55

I see it this way. If they run away and escape you should have did a better job at killing them. If they run away into a building using the tef bug I say shame on them. Glad thats being fixed in patch 20. I had a guy who was on a 6500 health buff with his crystal down to a hair of health. Then he runs into the opposite faction Special forces base his group was destroying to hide from me. I had him rooted too but it died just before I could finish him and he FR2 into the base.


Using that crap to escape is exploit to me. It wont happen after patch 20. They will be tefed and wont be able to run in stuff and hide.



SpaZMonKeY7777
Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:48 pm
#56

JaymzRiken,


First off, about leaving my food stomach empty... I plan out every fight I jump in to. I fill up 3/4 in drinks and 1/2 on food. This lets me get 2 Parwan in plus /burstrun.


So dont EVEN try to play me off as a crappy BH, because your the one who obvisouily cant take down Jedi who run. I cant even remember a time when a Jedi escaped me. Except for a few that managed to get to a house that was like 50m away.


Either way, I understand your entire proposal, but would have to disagree on it enitrely. Sure it would help BH, but I can think of PLENTY of other things that I would rather add to our profession.


And a fact is a fact, my method works, and I can confirm it over and over when hunting jedi. FR1 is SLOWER than burstrun if you didnt know, so it's perfetly fine that way to me.


Leave us some sort of a challenge, otherwise its no fun.




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SpaZMonKeY7777
Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:03 pm
#57

My arguement was to prove that you CAN chase them for 5 Minutes if NEEDED, although you need an empty stomach. If you cannot kill them in 3 Minutes of burstrun, then your just out of luck.


My template is actually quite simple. MBH and Master Pistols. I am also 0013 CM. This allows me to easily stop them in their tracks with many rooting abilities. Dont have many of these abilities? Then get em.


Back pre-cu I used ot have the old 'uber' pistols template. BH 3040, Master Pistols, Smuggler 0040. Everyone had started going Melee BH because of MLS having so much block... But I stuck with ranged, and sure enough, I managed to kill many Knights with a 1 on 1 fight, and even some Guardians+ (Before FRS was borked).



I am not claiming to be the best BH ever, because I know players that are long gone that were far stronger. I hunt solo on every bounty I accept. I dont have an exact number, but i have well over 75 unique kills, as I try not ot hunt same Jedi over and over.


The REAL fact is, that myself and PLENTY of other BH's manage to kill marks on the run. Whether it by food, or by roots/snares, or whether it be letting them run far enough to call a speeder and chase them, there ARE ways.




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BDragon
Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:13 pm
#58



SpaZMonKeY7777 wrote: My template is actually quite simple. MBH and Master Pistols.




As a Jedi who also had a (now retired) BH i can confirm that the best way to prevent a Jedi ruuning and more importantly cloaking is to be a pistoleer. Its quite ironic, because most BH are so concerned with kiting a Jedi and using that extra ranged they have from Rifleman, that it allows Jedi the rrom needed to make escapes. You simply dont have time to cloak on a pistoleer, it isnt happening. You can run from a pistoleer, but because he is so close, he can react in a flash and you'll find yourself rooted, concussed, disarmed, ect.

The template you pick dictates what you will be vunerable to. Rifleman can kite well, but they can also be left in the dust as a result



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SpaZMonKeY7777
Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:21 pm
#59

Thanks.


I also forgot to mention that i have both Ranged Cybernetic Arms.. So my DE-10's 35m Range plus another 15m aded make 50m pistol shooting!


I always love to give jedi a challenge, it's just too much fun.


And its funny, because I rarely get hate tells from Jedi. And those that I do get them from tend to be very VERy low payout padawans. Most Jedi I fight are very honorable, or just dont say a word. And I think a lot of it is my fighting style. Sometimes I run in shooting, other times I will give em a chance to run (Usually only to full temps).


I love being a BH




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JaymzRiken
Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:24 pm
#60

no, wrong, doesn't work if the jedi knows what he's doing, thanks for trying



you have adv stopping shot, that's your only root. Between that and a ranged KD, you cannot keep them from running away. You cannot killa jedi who tries to run if he is full template then, period.




This isn't about jumping padawans




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SpaZMonKeY7777
Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:52 pm
#61

Wow.


You seem so bent on claiming nobody can kill jedi. Maybe if you spent more time thinking of new tactics, then maybe youd find ways to kill jedi who run away.


And learn to do your homework. Not only do I have stopping shot, but I have Electrolyte Drain and Paralyze. I also have Hemmorage (sp?) which slows their action regen.


And before you say "Paralyze breaks when you attack", I use it to hold them while my stopping shot is on cool down, and then KD if I have to. Then I can use stopping shot again.


You posted an opinion on these BH forums, and you got a lot of "negativish" feedback from jedi and bh alike. Im entitled to my opinion as you are yourself. I was merely trying to help you by giving you alternative ways to take down a jedi on the run.


But you are blindly trying your best to shoot my options down just to make your own opinion look better.


And I will repeat it again. My ways work, so theres no point in saying they dont.




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BloodravenII
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:06 pm
#62

People will never be happy until they win all the time. And when I say all the time, I mean ALL the time. Whether it be a BH or a Jedi. I don't mean to offend anyone here, but that's just the plain and simple truth.


JaymzRiken
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:09 pm
#63

Electrolyte drain is negated when fr1 is active, do your homework. And by negated i mean they run faster than normal speed not that they cancel each other out, which would be fine by me.



Best snare in game versus lowest level jedi FR and FR more than overcomes it...that's a problem IMO, sorry






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JaymzRiken
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:12 pm
#64






SpaZMonKeY7777 wrote:

Wow.


You seem so bent on claiming nobody can kill jedi. Maybe if you spent more time thinking of new tactics, then maybe youd find ways to kill jedi who run away.


And learn to do your homework. Not only do I have stopping shot, but I have Electrolyte Drain and Paralyze. I also have Hemmorage (sp?) which slows their action regen. This has nothing to do with slowing them now...i'm an MCM by the way....Electrolyte i explained in the post before why it doesn't work, Paralyze..ok sure...but you choose that OR dots, and if you aren't using dots as a cm you can't do damage....i'm sorry i do not believe your template could kill a jedi with any skill. Don't correct someone with a "learn your class" attitude when you are speaking nonsense. You sound like you hunt paddies, not full temps. This will NOT work.


And before you say "Paralyze breaks when you attack", I use it to hold them while my stopping shot is on cool down, and then KD if I have to. Then I can use stopping shot again.


You posted an opinion on these BH forums, and you got a lot of "negativish" feedback from jedi and bh alike. Im entitled to my opinion as you are yourself. I was merely trying to help you by giving you alternative ways to take down a jedi on the run.


But you are blindly trying your best to shoot my options down just to make your own opinion look better.


And I will repeat it again. My ways work, so theres no point in saying they dont.










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GarronDarkweaver
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:24 pm
#65


I dont think this will ever get fixed tbh, just buy some parwan nutricake and un-equip your weapon until your within 40 metres. You should catch most fr1 runners on a planet with relatively rough terrain thanks to our +40 terrain neg.



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