Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: I've killed Mdef
BountyHunterLeopold
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:29 pm
#53
and now we take you solo, i'll step into your arena, thought i dont know how cantinas are considered an arena
oh and its more of the fact that i am able to wear your force down so much as to where you are forced to run inside a structure.
lol and player combat rating says what? minus askign to be deathblown for certain reasons, my rating has gone up and down just like many other peoples, doesnt mean from losing battles neccessarily...so...next please
Message Edited by BountyHunterLeopold on 09-18-2005 03:50 PM
Digitalalchemyzt
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:36 pm
#54
harder now? hell no. im a jedi and if u cant kill a jedi now, seriously you need to work on your pvp. most new jedi are again read my post PVE jedi. grind grind grind. theyd loose their head upon attack. two, crystal drops. most new jedi got the weakest crystals known to man. good armor food ect and you can take em.
lspiderl
Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:02 pm
#55
accualy jedi are a LOT easier to kill ............. if ur MELEE
but there EXTREEMLY dificult if ur ranged which uh any good bh is because melee bh just doesnt work
Digitalalchemyzt
Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:20 pm
#56
wrong again man. i was an mbh/mrifles and dont you know the T21 is one of the hardest hitting rifles in the game? not to mention laser rifles...slice, pups, speed pups...man, if u think youre having problems now, youre going to just quit when the perfect crystals and pearls start to drop....
lspiderl
Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:20 pm
#57
lol and even if u have ubar insane damage it doesnt matter because u have no defs
/burstrun ( which btw nullifies snare_
/saber break
/saberhit
= dead rifleman
now that im complaining i LIKE the fact that is difficult as all hell to kill a jedi ecpecialy an mdef because uh is SHOULD be jedi are no JOKE and should be TOUGH AS ALL HELL TO KILL
if i could pwn a jedi as easly as i can pwn u there that when id quit 
Message Edited by lspiderl on 09-18-2005 06:21 PM
Xevin
Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:32 pm
#58
Actually if SOE just removed KD from the game a lot of balance would come afterwords.
AB is overpowered but Jedi are suppose to be powerfull so I can live with it, but unless they are going to find a way to remove the lag factors with knock downs they need to just remove it ( Knock Down) from the PvP plate. I think Jedi might be underpowered without KD lol.
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Nathanielstarr
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:07 pm
#59
Lear77 wrote
To set a few things straight, I was not what you were used to seeing pre-CU. Ask any jedi I ever killed and they can tell you exactly how big my "group" was... always me and me alone. Also, never used a DoT weapon *ever* to hunt a jedi. I didn't need to. My bounties were also purposely 220k+. I dipped below that once as a personal favor for a friend. Let me guess you were 3000bh with master swords and an adk'd psg and you spammed head hit with your acklay powerhammer...yeah yeah yeah. I did it to with TKM and did it to some of the big boys. But believe me even with good healing this is harder. You get hit for more and don't have 2500+ buffs on all your stats.You can't spam anything and Jedi can disappear on you.
I fail to see how it is any harder now than it was before to fight a jedi. Having been on both ends of the spectrum I would say it is about the same, if not tipped towards the BH a bit more. You hit harder, you hit faster, you can apply DoTs what dots toros shot? lol , you heal faster than a jedi, you heal for more than a jedi, advanced duelist stance is as good as improved aura yeah +250 defense that you cannot use if you move when its warming up is as good as one that gives +500 and always works on a macro, you can have your armor sliced to reduce armor breakage... for that matter you can wear armor. PSGs with an adk were more protective than even the best energy armor. We had psgs upto 60% but now we have at best 55% armor and then you still have to absorb the elemental part of it You also have the benefit of more range than any jedi could ever hope to have with anything more then the most basic ranged attack, and you get first strike.We always had first strike and we got to pick our names and could watch a jedi and get to know their habits.
Sorry if I have no pity for you. I have been beaten by BHs that I felt earned their bounty, and I have told them as much. Others (such as the one who killed me while I was LD) have either been too unskilled in their templates, or just too cowardly to stand their ground at all.
As for taking the "best jedi on the server"... lol I can't do that as a jedi.. Like I said, I am a half decent jedi. Fully templated, yes.. but with a mediocre saber. Let pearl drops get fixed and beat me.... then you have the right to brag. Why don't your great pvp skills carry over into your Jedi?
Lear
Message Edited by Nathanielstarr on 09-18-2005 09:46 PM
Lear77
Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:48 pm
#62
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Lear77 wrote
To set a few things straight, I was not what you were used to seeing pre-CU. Ask any jedi I ever killed and they can tell you exactly how big my "group" was... always me and me alone. Also, never used a DoT weapon *ever* to hunt a jedi. I didn't need to. My bounties were also purposely 220k+. I dipped below that once as a personal favor for a friend. Let me guess you were 3000bh with master swords and an adk'd psg and you spammed head hit with your acklay powerhammer...yeah yeah yeah. I did it to with TKM and did it to some of the big boys. But believe me even with good healing this is harder. You get hit for more and don't have 2500+ buffs on all your stats.You can't spam anything and Jedi can disappear on you.
I fail to see how it is any harder now than it was before to fight a jedi. Having been on both ends of the spectrum I would say it is about the same, if not tipped towards the BH a bit more. You hit harder, you hit faster, you can apply DoTs what dots toros shot? lol , you heal faster than a jedi, you heal for more than a jedi, advanced duelist stance is as good as improved aura yeah +250 defense that you cannot use if you move when its warming up is as good as one that gives +500 and always works on a macro, you can have your armor sliced to reduce armor breakage... for that matter you can wear armor. PSGs with an adk were more protective than even the best energy armor. We had psgs upto 60% but now we have at best 55% armor and then you still have to absorb the elemental part of it You also have the benefit of more range than any jedi could ever hope to have with anything more then the most basic ranged attack, and you get first strike.We always had first strike and we got to pick our names and could watch a jedi and get to know their habits.
Sorry if I have no pity for you. I have been beaten by BHs that I felt earned their bounty, and I have told them as much. Others (such as the one who killed me while I was LD) have either been too unskilled in their templates, or just too cowardly to stand their ground at all.
As for taking the "best jedi on the server"... lol I can't do that as a jedi.. Like I said, I am a half decent jedi. Fully templated, yes.. but with a mediocre saber. Let pearl drops get fixed and beat me.... then you have the right to brag. We don't your great pvp skills carry over into your Jedi?
Lear
My BH template was a simple TK defense stack. I used plain VKs and the very same buffs available to the jedi on the server. I also did alot more than "some of the big boys". All but one were nearly full templated jedi or higher.
DoT application... hello MBH/MCM.. never seen you before
DS shold have been raised to 500 (the same as what aura is). So you have to stand there for the two whole seconds that it takes for the timer.
The pre-CU armor setup has very little to do with the here and now. For the record though, I didn't wear armor so nothing that you mentioned matters to me other than armor now is very effective. Especially when you face a post-CU saber.
First strike.... well if you really need to follow your mark to find out wether he prefers twi's or zab dancers.. thta i syour business. I was always more concerned with the trend they nearly all had: running to hide in houses (kinda like cloak only more annoying).
My PvP skills did carry over. I do quite well thanks. I invite you to look me up and we'll play anytime. I don't claim to be the best though, and if you read carefully you would see that I can't compete (consistently) with the server's best. I'm fine with that though.. I know there is always someone better than me...... especially when I use my saber.
Lear
Message Edited by Lear77 on 09-18-2005 09:49 PM
Nathanielstarr
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:46 pm
#63
Why don't we just go to the thread I started in the Jedi forum asking for Jedi's records against BH in the last 3 months. Most of them claim to be undefeated. Some are saying their 45 and 0 or numbers like that. That proves my point.
I can debunk your post again if you want. The dots from the MCM now are nothing compared to pre-cu dots and 250 defense is hardly as good as +500. Sometimes staying still and getting hit for 1200 twice (600 a hit after armor) isn't worth going from 250 defense to 500 (the jedi goes upto what 700 at least?)
Point is we don't have a vulnerable mind pool to attack with a mind hitting attack over and over and over and over again. There is no dizzy knockdown and a Jedi cloaking is far worse than running into a house because Jedi that run into houses stay there Jedi that cloak rarely stay cloaked. We do about half as much damage as they do to us and hit half as often.
Also if you say studying your opponent isn't a great advantage that I don't even believe you were a bounty hunter at all.
taxxyou
Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:48 pm
#64
I have killed many mls/mdef's as mbh mcm pistols 3001 and having uber gear its not that hard at all and its always a long drawn out battle and they run outta mind or force.
lspiderl
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:26 am
#65
I can debunk your post again if you want. The dots from the MCM now are nothing compared to pre-cu dots and 250 defense is hardly as good as +500. Sometimes staying still and getting hit for 1200 twice (600 a hit after armor) isn't worth going from 250 defense to 500 (the jedi goes upto what 700 at least?)
accualy the way ds and cob work isnt adding to your accualy melee ranged def score its a lot less than that its adding to your amor rating so if u were wearing say capped unlayered battel armor with 6000 defs to all dam types
while u rand ds u would in essence have 6250 defs to all damage types
which is in trouth only roughly 1-5 % reduction in damge and while every little bit helps its certainly not the end all be all