Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi damage output and the new SL changes
Ameno
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:13 pm
#40
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
Thassk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:15 pm
#41
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about
Thassk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:16 pm
#42
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
just so everyone knows ... that hit is against a level 42 novice rifleman .. so its not too impressive
Ameno
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:19 pm
#43
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
just so everyone knows ... that hit is against a level 42 novice rifleman .. so its not too impressive
Just so they know, from what i read of that, he was grouped with a Level 80.. thus making him also lvl80
thanks, have a nice day.
edit: seriously, it wouldn't of mattered if he was a level 80. theree have been major reports of 1 hit kills with the SL buffs throughout beta.
Message Edited by Ameno on 10-19-2005 08:20 PM
Thassk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:21 pm
#44
Ameno wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
just so everyone knows ... that hit is against a level 42 novice rifleman .. so its not too impressive
Just so they know, from what i read of that, he was grouped with a Level 80.. thus making him also lvl80
hehe i dont think thats the way it works, ive taken guildies out plenty of times who are lower level .. and im always having to save their butts from mobs who can two hit and one hit kill em
Ramblen
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:21 pm
#45
I guaruntee most large guilds will have one running around,
The hole issue is SL buffs, no way should anyone, BH/SL or Jedi w/ SL friend be able to do the damage that is being done,
BH/SL is a joke and shouldnt be in game.
Jedi getting hunted by a BH should not recieve that same bonus from the SL they are grouped with. Its wrong on both sides.
And man there are alot of people who have crapy equipment if they were use to 700 default damage before this upgrade...
OhBuggah
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:22 pm
#46
Komeu-Jr wrote:
I dont think most jedi are going to have a personal SL running around with them (half of the time they dont even have buffs). However if you do find one running with an SL, why not group with an sl also when u decide to attack them???
OhBuggah wrote:
i love how everyone is skirting the issue of squad leaders being able to now assist jedi fight a BH in what should be a ONE vs ONE fight.............jedi vs. BH fights are now 2 vs. 1 (Jedi and a grouped SL versus a single BH).
the power level of jedi is so great that having a SL grouped with me WILL NOT negate a SL grouped with him. a SL buffing a jedi gives him an immense advantage. it's of the order of magnitude when a M.Defender pops a Health Buff crystal giving him 6k ham. when a M.Defender combines a health crystal with aura + pikatta + block food + other action/health regen foods, that Jedi becomes invulnerabe. your DPS will be so low that it will never be able to overcome the regen + 60 second stim usage. whilst a BH with the same buffs will still be killable because a BH's defenses will never be so high that the Jedi will miss frequently, nor will the BH's defenses be so high as to mitigate a good portion of the Jedi's damage.
my goodness, am i the only true BH around who knows how to kill jedi? because there sure are a lot of BH-wannabes, and BH's with Jedi avatars, who are running around and don't know what they're talking about.
Ameno
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:24 pm
#47
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
just so everyone knows ... that hit is against a level 42 novice rifleman .. so its not too impressive
Just so they know, from what i read of that, he was grouped with a Level 80.. thus making him also lvl80
hehe i dont think thats the way it works, ive taken guildies out plenty of times who are lower level .. and im always having to save their butts from mobs who can two hit and one hit kill em
it does, if grouped they should be "almost" like being the 2nd highest level in the group. the real damage piler, is how much acurracy the thing has over their defenses.
Thassk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:27 pm
#48
Ameno wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
just so everyone knows ... that hit is against a level 42 novice rifleman .. so its not too impressive
Just so they know, from what i read of that, he was grouped with a Level 80.. thus making him also lvl80
hehe i dont think thats the way it works, ive taken guildies out plenty of times who are lower level .. and im always having to save their butts from mobs who can two hit and one hit kill em
it does, if grouped they should be "almost" like being the 2nd highest level in the group. the real damage piler, is how much acurracy the thing has over their defenses.
well a level 42 doesnt have much defense agaisnt accuracy, does he ..?
i know from personal experience grouping with me barely gives any lower level players " boosts" i am constantly grouped with low levels ( im a guild leader and am helping people constantly)
youll have to dig up some info threads to get me to believe different .. cuz ill still contend that damage wouldnt have been as severe if the person had been level 80...
Ameno
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:30 pm
#49
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Ameno wrote:
I assure you that tanks, knows whta he is talking about.
And before you start bitc'hing, about SL's, BH's have already came grouped with a SL after jedi. Its on both sides of the fields, welcome to the world of "tested changes, that didn't get changed for our system, and now we're all screwed".
700 after mitigation isn't alot of damage, even with your armor break slice, high damage saber, + improved armor break, and a power attack, or maybe even a head hit or dervish, should land for that much. If you'd like to talk about insane, how about http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=330727&poll_id=0&warned=ythat screenshot
just so everyone knows ... that hit is against a level 42 novice rifleman .. so its not too impressive
Just so they know, from what i read of that, he was grouped with a Level 80.. thus making him also lvl80
hehe i dont think thats the way it works, ive taken guildies out plenty of times who are lower level .. and im always having to save their butts from mobs who can two hit and one hit kill em
it does, if grouped they should be "almost" like being the 2nd highest level in the group. the real damage piler, is how much acurracy the thing has over their defenses.
well a level 42 doesnt have much defense agaisnt accuracy, does he ..?
i know from personal experience grouping with me barely gives any lower level players " boosts" i am constantly grouped with low levels ( im a guild leader and am helping people constantly)
youll have to dig up some info threads to get me to believe different .. cuz ill still contend that damage wouldnt have been as severe if the person had been level 80...
Its alright if you don't believe me, because i'm surely not going to dig up CU post. i hate to admit i live in this crappy system. a lvl 42 having much defense against accuracy? i wouldn't know, lvl 57 is a single complete mastery isn't it? so i suppose it depends on what template they have, and what they are going against. either way, 18k of damage is SICK. anyway you cut it, you could probably use math and try to taper that to someone that is higher level, i doubt it'd do much.
Thassk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:33 pm
#50
Its alright if you don't believe me, because i'm surely not going to dig up CU post. i hate to admit i live in this crappy system. a lvl 42 having much defense against accuracy? i wouldn't know, lvl 57 is a single complete mastery isn't it? so i suppose it depends on what template they have, and what they are going against. either way, 18k of damage is SICK. anyway you cut it, you could probably use math and try to taper that to someone that is higher level, i doubt it'd do much.
ill put it this way .. no way in heck if that guy was level 80 would you have done 17828 ( or whatever it was ) ...
it also could have been a glitch or something ... im not denying it could have been a bug ..
but bug or not .. higher levels = less damage
imho of course
Sundal
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:36 pm
#51
Ameno wrote:
Just so they know, from what i read of that, he was grouped with a Level 80.. thus making him also lvl80
edit: seriously, it wouldn't of mattered if he was a level 80. theree have been major reports of 1 hit kills with the SL buffs throughout beta.
Message Edited by Ameno on 10-19-2005 08:20 PM
That guy in the screenshot looks naked...
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And to the BHs that think 700 isnt high damage, congratulations you fall under the 90% of BH that dont know how to hunt jedi. The reason you dont think 700 damage is high is because you dont have AB slice, or use mitigation food. So you get hit for over 1000+ regularly. To put it simply, you suck so bad you're used to it.
But any good BH will never get hit for more then 600unless from a KD or powerhit(also unless the fight prolongs and their stomach room fills).
I dont know if there's really anything that can be done about the Jedi/SL problem... considering we can have the same buffs applied when we hunt Jedi. But something to look out for I guess. Personally I'm going to give it a few days before I hunt another Jedi to see if anything else pops up.
Tanks
Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:00 pm
#52
OhBuggah wrote:
edited: meant 5 times one second apart each combat round with force speed 2, doc buffs, and a fast saber. a jedi that can hit you for 700+ AFTER mitigation can kill you in less than 10 seconds if you're not doing anything to counteract the INSANE saber damage.
FYI, Force Speed 2, and Doc Speed buffs DO NOT stack.