Bounty Hunter Archive

what exactly is delusional about it? we have a 6 second timer on our heals...even a master healer only has 2 heals available, one of which is practicly unusable in pvp...so we have one heal that heals 1000 damage at heal 2000 (22sp)OR 1500 damage at 4000, you only get one or the other, if you train the higher one, you no longer have access to the lower one....compare this with MEDIC 0020....bacta shot with attachments, a 1200 heal every 5 seconds...or if you went medic 0200 instead...you get healing bacta shot AND bacta toss...in this situation, with attachments, shot is around 900, and toss is around 750...they are on SEPERATE timers...meaning you dont have to wait for one to cooldown before using the other, thats the equivalent of 1650 every 5 seconds...which is greater than our best non master heal...now if you step up to med 4440/master doc....you get bacta shot at 1600 heal, toss at 1250, spray at 1050,and jab at 850...on top of that, you have infusion, now, if ya went CM (really the more viable option 0400)you would miss jab and infusion, but you gain other things...but lets use master doctor as the comparison...thats a 3850 heal every 5 seconds...the insanely high force (for total heal) and mind cost (yes, a doctor or CM's is much lower) for jedi healing ensures that even a master jedi healer couldn't outheal you for more than a few rounds.....now...lets move onto damage:

first...to even start as a MLS your gonna be spending in the neighborhood of 20-80 million for pearls/crystals...assuming you dont already have a handy stockpile (most don't...high quality don't drop currently) we'll just be generous and assume you get your sabers damage up to 600min 700 max w/ a 1.25 modified speed and your elemental at around 225, with an sac of 96 at best....our highest damage move requires us to be stationary, and you withing 5m...thats for 2.5 damage...the best attacks we have when your not stationary is 1.8 damage multiplier, compare that with:

a rifleman with a speed pup'd (we can't power up lightsabers) adv laser rifle with a damage of 500-1180 and a 1.1 speed and a sac of 82 with usable specials that allow you to consistantly attack, while moving, with a 2.0 and 1.8 modifier....which can be used from 65 m...farther with ranged arms...and for what? maybe 5 mil? 10? you can get it cheaper.

now...imagine if you will, we start face to face, and you don't run, and for the favor, the jedi doesn't use power attack...for you to fire 10 shots takes 11 seconds....for me to make 10 attacks with the saber takes 12.5, now so far it doesnt seem that bad right?

now keep in mind...with rifleman you get the ability to wear armor...you get a 65 m range...we've already discussed what master doc will give to you as far as healing

we're comparing a master healer and master lightsaber vs a master doctor and master rifleman we'll, just for kicks, so he doesn't die in the first 6 seconds say the jedi spent all his remaining skill points on def 4400 to get innate armor so he has 5400 (44%resist) innate armor vs recon armor of say, 7000 (52.5%resist)energy

after damage multiplication and armor resistance...assuming alternating hits (no healing)your raw damage excluding acc vs def mitigation is 5320-12555

after damage multiplication and armor resistance...assuming alternating hits (no healing)the jedi's raw damage excluding acc vs def mitigation is 5130-5980

but wait...remember...your speed is quicker...that will allow you to launch off one more shot, for an additional 532-1255 damage, we'll just leave that out tho

so...given the the jedi's ranged defense will be...even if he has FS ranged defense, with just defender 4400 is 135

and the rifleman's melee defense is 35....imagining that neither is using foods

you can see the range for damage is much narrower for the Jedi....so lets say riflemans defense doesnt lower jedi's max damage at all

and even tho its a gross exageration, we'll say that 135 jed ranged defense vs a rifleman's acc lowers rifle max output by 25%:

your looking at 9416 damage over a 10 shot/11 second period

vs a 5980 damage over a 10 hack/12.5 second period

so lets recap....master doc heals at 3850 ery 5 sec (more sustainable due tolower mind cost)and master rifleman damage at 9416 damage in 11 seconds

vs jedi master healer heals at 4500 ery 6 seconds (less sustainable due to higher mind cost AND force cost) and damage at 5980 damage over a 12.5 second period.

the two things I left out is that MLS has a 25 saber block...which will effectively reduce your 10 hits for 9416 to 7062, but again, in real combat, you dont need to stay within 5m of your opponent, and if your out of the jedi's range, he cant hit you, even saberthrow only has a 32m range vs a rifleman's 65(+w/ ranged arms)

to summarize....are you ever going to see a MLS/MHEAL/def 4400 template? probably not...I just showed you why

will you see Master docs/Master riflemen? of course...theyre all over the place. As a BH? no, not enough SP to do it...there is another option tho.

you can outheal (over time)AND outdamage us (up front, and over time)...there is no doubt about it...do your own research if you need further proof...the big factors in real pvp are defenders aura and valor, and the intangables of enhancer and powers....defenders aura is a big boost to defense, and valor doubles the 25 saber block...so thats why you don't see this huge damage differential in alot of cases...it is there tho, and with the intagables...too much to get into, but the thing to remember is jedi skills are very expensive, particularly at the low levels, you won't see many successful dabblers...but I will tell you this...a master doc/master rifleman or cm 0400 (or better)/master rifleman is a tough opponent for a jedi of any template, assuming both are equally knowledgable and profficient with the skills and abilities at thier disposal.

perturbed? yes. delusional? no.

*NOTE* I left out MLS's Bleed and Armor break for two reasons....any BH worth the air they breathe who is serious about their profession will purchase or otherwise aquire the components for the smuggler 75% armor break resistance slice, the money you saved vs the Jedi on the weapon will more than pay for them and second, note I did not include any other specials on the rifleman's side.

some numbers were approximated...but none are far off, any that are tend to favor an underestimate of the regular profession's ability for demonstration's sake.