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Thread: Time to Fix the Kashyyyk Exploit

zukem
Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:10 am
#40






Zuulann wrote:

What part of don't post if you are going toargue withme did you not understand! First of all, i am far from a respec bounty hunter, 2 years in the trade, and ive enduredevery single one ofthe ridiculas problems that we face as BH. Second, exploit was the wrong choice of word, i admit, "annoyance" would have been the proper choice of word. After all, if I were a jedi i would be there too. But exploit or not, I am still wasting 10k for a single crate of probot droids, and 4 of the 5 uses relay a jedi on that blasted planet! I did NOT post to trade foolish remarks with eachother's point of view, soplease spare me.




Too bad you aren't on Radiant. I sell probots for 3k a crate.




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Yog-Soth
Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:15 am
#41

I think using LoS exploits is lame, and shows what type of character you truely are. People who cheat at games, usually cheat at all games they play.


Droids don't work on Kash... Kinda stupid, but one can live with that. Running all over, hunting a mark, to have him run somewhere where he cannot be attacked becuase of a game fualt, is complete B.S.


LoS exploits should be fixed immediatley.






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Oikaleek
Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:02 am
#42

The LoS bugs, droids not working and the holes in the geometry ( anyone else fall through the floor in webweaver?) are all part of the same problem. Last night I created a particular waypoint whileon the Ryaat trail. I looked on my map and it was about 3km from where I was, but my onscreen wp monitor was pointing the completely opposite direction. When I got to the wp on my map (not in actuality as it wasn't really there)my onscreen wp monitor waspointed the opposite direction and said the wp was 3km away....


All of these things are the same problem.An unfinished product (as usualwhen it comes to SWG). RotW was rushed out and unfinished. While I have found many aspects of itvery enjoyable and certainly a step in the right direction for the game itself, the bugs, and theinordinent amount of time it takes the developers to squash them all and fix things, ruinfar too many aspects of this game.


In this case theBH Jedi mission system. "Due to the tremendous amount of lifeforms on Kashyyyk your target cannot be found" should read "Due to SoE/LucasArts greed, we are rushing ROTW out the door unfinished and disabling your droids on this planet until we fix it or...don't and say we did....just like it has always been."


All that being said, I've still managed to track down the Jedi I have been hunting on Kashyyyk. There are only a few places you need to look really.


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Jimbone
Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:17 am
#43






Enix_Dayspring wrote:





SamousNemo wrote:

Bounty Hunting is supposed to be profitable, spending hours on a 150k paycheck isn't.







If you can't make a profit, maybe you're just not a very good Bounty Hunter? What "hunting" is involved in following the waypoint your droid gives you?






It's no different than using a hunting dog in real life.


What's that? You've never hunted in real life? Then what are you doing pontificating to someone else about hunting?

AZFisher
Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:57 am
#44

I have found that marks worth 180k + are not on kash and will not hide.
Mythrindir
Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:01 am
#45

i'd like it to be a formula based on your CL determining if you're on boards....maybe like 25xCl...so people with like 800 CL wouldnt be worthwhile as people with like 1700+...and factoring in their negative faction would be good for it too somehow...



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SamousNemo
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:00 pm
#46






Darkknight109 wrote:

Back in the day when I was a BH, we were made of stronger stuff. Every Jedi knew how to screw up droids so they appeared offline, even though they were online. I had a small spynet of my own going. A Jedi-hunting team, if you will. "Spread out, hit all the major cities, if you find them, report back to me." I had Jedi hunts that took several hours of simply looking for the target before I actually found them... My how the BH name has been tarnished...







Bounty Hunting is supposed to be profitable, spending hours on a 150k paycheck isn't. The only reason why I can make a living now is because Jedi are too lazy to actually play their toons and instead run macros all night in the same spot. Heaven help me if I was thrust back into the dark ages of the login/logout exploit.


When droids were broke before did you just shut up and take it? Or did you spend your spare hours on the forums saying how stupid it was that 1/4 of your profession was made useless? When your droids reported back "Your target is not online" did you rejoice at the thought that "gee whiz, now I get to go prove myself!" or did you say "dammit, well, guess I might as well do this for the next 4 hours"?


We're going through the exact same thing now, our profession is being broken; the only difference is that half of us are content to turning a blind eye and muttering "respec BHs..." under our breath. If we keep passive now, how long do you think that droids are disabled completely once again? Why the hell did we work so hard in the past for our droids if now, months later, we're willing to roll over and give up everything?


Hell, why am I even wasting my breath on a "True BH" such as yourself anyhow? Any loyalty you once had for this profession died the day you dropped your Master's box. Maybe you should just go back to being retired and leave the Bounty Hunter forums for the Bounty Hunters?




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JerethBane
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:21 pm
#47

Hmmm.....the super negative faction thing.


So, absicly you're saying that after non-consensual PvP was taken out so people could enjoy a PvE GCW, you wantit put back in with the BH terminals?


"Sorry n00b, you shouldn't have been grinding faction points."


Seems liek we used to have this in place with the TEF.
Darkknight109
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:27 pm
#48






SamousNemo wrote:





Darkknight109 wrote:

Back in the day when I was a BH, we were made of stronger stuff. Every Jedi knew how to screw up droids so they appeared offline, even though they were online. I had a small spynet of my own going. A Jedi-hunting team, if you will. "Spread out, hit all the major cities, if you find them, report back to me." I had Jedi hunts that took several hours of simply looking for the target before I actually found them... My how the BH name has been tarnished...







Bounty Hunting is supposed to be profitable, spending hours on a 150k paycheck isn't. The only reason why I can make a living now is because Jedi are too lazy to actually play their toons and instead run macros all night in the same spot. Heaven help me if I was thrust back into the dark ages of the login/logout exploit.


When droids were broke before did you just shut up and take it? Or did you spend your spare hours on the forums saying how stupid it was that 1/4 of your profession was made useless? When your droids reported back "Your target is not online" did you rejoice at the thought that "gee whiz, now I get to go prove myself!" or did you say "dammit, well, guess I might as well do this for the next 4 hours"?


We're going through the exact same thing now, our profession is being broken; the only difference is that half of us are content to turning a blind eye and muttering "respec BHs..." under our breath. If we keep passive now, how long do you think that droids are disabled completely once again? Why the hell did we work so hard in the past for our droids if now, months later, we're willing to roll over and give up everything?


Hell, why am I even wasting my breath on a "True BH" such as yourself anyhow? Any loyalty you once had for this profession died the day you dropped your Master's box. Maybe you should just go back to being retired and leave the Bounty Hunter forums for the Bounty Hunters?







I'll admit that being a BH in those dayswas frustrating and probably is now. Did I whine on the forumsback then? Not really... a few muttered curses, yes, but I kinda liked actually hunting like a real bounty hunter would once in a while. I'll admit, I was a BH for the hunt. PvP was never my forte, I failed a lot more missions than I succeeded, I wasn't in it for the money but just finally finding that mark after a few hours of searching made it worthwhile. Anyways, I digress. The point to my post was that if your droids report back that your mark is untrackable, you can be 99% sure they're on Kashyyyk. Start looking. I'm saying be thankful that you aren't back in the days when droids didn't work against Jedi at all.



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Cada_Kai
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:33 pm
#49

The reason alot of BHs give to hunting Jedi is the fact that Jedi should be hidden out of public eye.

That they should atleast be percieved as being rare.


Yet when Jedi go into an instanced place to hunt together you want them to be easier to find.

You want them to be out in the open so you can get to them easier.


so what is it? Want them hidden or flashing around the MO?

Jedi are here to stay. the numbers will only get larger, don't kid yourself that your hunting them being in an instance, or int he open has any relativity to keep them in hiding.


Of all the BHs I have had come after me on the trail more than not they use the "hidden spots" to heal themselves.

I generally run down to the Blackscale camp, and let them take care of the BH for me.


Jedi aren't the only ones using these spots as cover.....



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CivicBountyHunter
Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:19 am
#50


ok ok....


Droids USED to work on kash, kinda. The first day or two of kash being out, you could get WP, and you did not get the BS "Due to high life on kash..." message.


The devs did a band aid fix. Every (sorry alot) jedi seems to think that it was intended this way. When in fact it was not. Droids where supose to work on kash, the devs either cant/wont fix it. It is beyond their ability, droids have been a problem for them since almost day one.


I hunt marks on kash, I have chased marks off kash. I have killed jedi in the past ("back in the day")when you could not even get any droids to work. I killed jedi in the past (as ranged fighter) when saber block was unbalancing. Dont tell me I'm lazy, dont tell me I'm a newb, dont tell me I'm jelous, dont call me a respec BH griever. However - This sucks. There are soo many places for a jedi to grind there. 10 instances at mydril caves, which TBH is the easiest to find them in. Zone in /target mark, and see if they are there, hopefully you dont try if/when they are fighting necrosis. Then the trail. More of a pita, just as many instances to check, cant /target, and once you get to a point where a template can actually get xp, it is about a 20minute trip to get that far in each instance.


What really sucks? The chances of it changing are zero to nil, I wish others would just realize this so we can get over it and move and on.


It is all there, let this thread and this subject die already!




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Neekocha
Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:21 am
#51






Zuulann wrote:

Im sick and tired of wasting probots and my valuable time locating jedi on the world of Kashyyyk. I dont care what is done, just dont waste anymore of my time. TIme to incorperate normal player bounties, which you gain visibility for causing too much trouble with any of the major factions. Such would be rebel, imperial, jabba, lady valarian, nym, blacksun, and townspeople would make sense. Its alot to ask for,I know, just do something about this, 7/10 jedi are taking advantage of it's protection and wasting my droids and time. And please... if you think about posting to start an arguement with me over this issue... dont waste your breathe.





I share your feelings.

isoloAncientKrayts
Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:58 am
#52



_Apache wrote:


So as much as I hate Kashyyk,...Ive decided to work with it. It is doable. But those LOS bugs need to be fixed.








Agreed. Kashyyyk really is not a big deal,but the bugs are. Hunting on Kashyyyk was 50 times easiersince I found where all the jedi hide on Ryatt.



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