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Thread: Great news for REAL Bounty Hunters!

Killa-Kell-Krushin
Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:19 am
#40


Vigorin wrote:

BHs like Bobba Fett would never accept a bounty that was after a friends head. At least I wouldn't think he would. But I wouldn't.





I don't really think Boba had this problem since there weren't too many that could refer to him as friend or vice versa

But aside from being a smart@$$, I don't like these "proposed" changes either. The thing you have to keep in mind is that they are still just proposed as of right now. The Dev messed up and posted the Test Center notes before they were finished(so he said)and then took them back down stating they should be back up later that day....that was yesterday and they are still not up yet so. Until they go up theres not much point in getting all worked up about it. They HAVE TO have a way to see the bounties name somehow IMHO. Otherwise the tab button on my keyboard is going to be worn out trying to tab through all the S#!7 on Kash. End of story. The payout thing doesn't make that big a difference. So you don't know what level your going up against. Sure you might get your clock cleaned a bit every now and again but think about how many padies there are compared to knights... I just wish they would post the notes so we know what is going down.

Message Edited by Killa-Kell-Krushin on 07-06-2005 11:21 AM



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Jargal
Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:25 am
#41

It can only be an jedi player pretending to be a BH that posts something this stupid on our forum...



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Oikaleek
Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:31 am
#42

The fact that payout amounts will no longer be showing on the terminals is enough to make us ALL not real bounty hunters

Q: What BH in their right mind and character would accept a contract on someone's life not knowing prior to completion what they would be paid to kill the mark?


A: None. No Bounty Hunter in SWG , except perhaps...a BH droid...I mean an HK or IG specifically, or Real Life would accept this contract. Hence, now fewer BH's in game will be accepting Jedi missions. They are fixing NPC missions though...or so I hear /shrug
Oikaleek
Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:52 am
#43






Warlock8806 wrote:






Oikaleek wrote:
The fact that payout amounts will no longer be showing on the terminals is enough to make us ALL not real bounty hunters

Q: What BH in their right mind and character would accept a contract on someone's life not knowing prior to completion what they would be paid to kill the mark?


A: None. No Bounty Hunter in SWG , except perhaps...a BH droid...I mean an HK or IG specifically, or Real Life would accept this contract. Hence, now fewer BH's in game will be accepting Jedi missions. They are fixing NPC missions though...or so I hear /shrug






They didnt say payouts wouldno longer be showing. They said we would'nt be able to know a Jedi's level via the payout.








Pwnd


Then I can see a viable RP element being added here for Master Bounty Hunters. It, however, complicates the investigation process ten-fold. You will know their faction, but not their name, CL, and have to rely even more heavily on leads, and you will know how much you are being paid to do these things. I would like to see the dev's add tools to investigate these things, to gain more knowledge as you track down your mark. And, with the difficulty of Jedi Knights taken into account, coupled with the lack of a PC support group/gank squad as they are called /shrug, I'd like to see more, and better, combat droids brought into the mix.



Also, if we are to be forced to roleplay, or even semi roleplay, in order to hunt a Jedi, it only stands to reason that Jedi should lose small amounts of experience/skills when they don't do the same


Warlock8806
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:17 am
#44






Oikaleek wrote:





Warlock8806 wrote:






Oikaleek wrote:
The fact that payout amounts will no longer be showing on the terminals is enough to make us ALL not real bounty hunters

Q: What BH in their right mind and character would accept a contract on someone's life not knowing prior to completion what they would be paid to kill the mark?


A: None. No Bounty Hunter in SWG , except perhaps...a BH droid...I mean an HK or IG specifically, or Real Life would accept this contract. Hence, now fewer BH's in game will be accepting Jedi missions. They are fixing NPC missions though...or so I hear /shrug






They didnt say payouts wouldno longer be showing. They said we would'nt be able to know a Jedi's level via the payout.








Pwnd


Then I can see a viable RP element being added here for Master Bounty Hunters. It, however, complicates the investigation process ten-fold. You will know their faction, but not their name, CL, and have to rely even more heavily on leads, and you will know how much you are being paid to do these things. I would like to see the dev's add tools to investigate these things, to gain more knowledge as you track down your mark. And, with the difficulty of Jedi Knights taken into account, coupled with the lack of a PC support group/gank squad as they are called /shrug, I'd like to see more, and better, combat droids brought into the mix.



Also, if we are to be forced to roleplay, or even semi roleplay, in order to hunt a Jedi, it only stands to reason that Jedi should lose small amounts of experience/skills when they don't do the same







Yeah some elements of this would be cool. I honestly dont think its going to be that complex.I think we will learn the name of our mark after we have accepted the mission and have gone to the informant to get the bio-sig.It doesnt say this anywhere mind you, it just makes sense. It will prevent multiple BHs from grouping and taking the same mission as we would have to keep running back and forth from informant to terminal over and over and just wouldnt be worth the time.






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OhBuggah
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:19 am
#45






Warlock8806 wrote:

They didnt say payouts wouldno longer be showing. They said we would'nt be able to know a Jedi's level via the payout.






QFE. I think Jedi missions are going to be a flat rate payout ... like all of them will be worth 225k. Which would be REALLY cool with me.

bmill
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:22 am
#46






milkchan wrote:

Hey guys, have you heard! the Role play element is HERE! We dont know who our mark is till we get there! We can actually HUNT and take our time! we can now study our mark and find the BEST time to attack! Rejoice REAL Bounty Hunters! We no longer will get out done by the Hybrid invest 3 people. NOW they have to be masters like us! The FOTM has changed! we can now see who REALLY wants to be a BH.


How many of us were MBH when the time being a MBH sucked. How many of you were angry to see all the Invest 3 Melee bh running around doing a btter job than you. How many times did it erk you to see a Master combat medic/ Master carbiner/invest 3 bh take down a mark YOU could not cause you chose to stay true to your craft! Well now you have the rights to brag! you never dropped MBH when you knew it wasnt as good as a melee BH. you didnt drop MBH when you could have just picked up Master combat medic and done a better job. you stuck through it. And now being a MBH really means something.


Rejoice! you veteran MBH know not seeing names is no big deal. cause you have patience. You know you have first strike. you know you can find when they let there guard down. you KNOW your prey. Hunting in groups was a rareity for you. You are a REAL Master Bounty Hunter. You know and understand that these changes did nothing but make YOU more important, and make the tactics you were ALLREADY useing that much more aplicable.


Good Job To the REAL Master Bounty Hunters. You patience once again has payed off.


P.S. i am being serious. I LOVE these changes. it brings back the SKILL in hunting. Thankyou DEVS.






Real World bounty Hunters know who their bounty is, their SSN, Driver's ID, credit info, address, cell phone number, etc... it's all public record. This is in NO way going to add to the Role-Play aspect


An MBH can only have one other master profession and a healing profession with the 250 sp available. YOU on the other hand can have 3 "jedi professions" from what I've read. Fair? Ha!


Of course you love the changes. It brings less chance that a BH will hunt YOU for posting this.






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BrendanK
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:28 am
#47

I don't have a HUGE problem with the names being removed so long as it lists their faction, but the payouts? That is pretty retarded. Like others have said, what bounty hunter in their right mind would accept a mission or job without knowing how much he's being paid ahead of time? The answer? NONE.

The one slight problem I have with names being removed, is how the hell do you hunt on Kash now? It was bullsh1t enough before having to look through instances with a target macro running, but with no name, that kind of screws things now doesn't it?



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OhBuggah
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:30 am
#48






bmill wrote:






milkchan wrote:

Hey guys, have you heard! the Role play element is HERE! We dont know who our mark is till we get there! We can actually HUNT and take our time! we can now study our mark and find the BEST time to attack! Rejoice REAL Bounty Hunters! We no longer will get out done by the Hybrid invest 3 people. NOW they have to be masters like us! The FOTM has changed! we can now see who REALLY wants to be a BH.


How many of us were MBH when the time being a MBH sucked. How many of you were angry to see all the Invest 3 Melee bh running around doing a btter job than you. How many times did it erk you to see a Master combat medic/ Master carbiner/invest 3 bh take down a mark YOU could not cause you chose to stay true to your craft! Well now you have the rights to brag! you never dropped MBH when you knew it wasnt as good as a melee BH. you didnt drop MBH when you could have just picked up Master combat medic and done a better job. you stuck through it. And now being a MBH really means something.


Rejoice! you veteran MBH know not seeing names is no big deal. cause you have patience. You know you have first strike. you know you can find when they let there guard down. you KNOW your prey. Hunting in groups was a rareity for you. You are a REAL Master Bounty Hunter. You know and understand that these changes did nothing but make YOU more important, and make the tactics you were ALLREADY useing that much more aplicable.


Good Job To the REAL Master Bounty Hunters. You patience once again has payed off.


P.S. i am being serious. I LOVE these changes. it brings back the SKILL in hunting. Thankyou DEVS.






Real World bounty Hunters know who their bounty is, their SSN, Driver's ID, credit info, address, cell phone number, etc... it's all public record. This is in NO way going to add to the Role-Play aspect


An MBH can only have one other master profession and a healing profession with the 250 sp available. YOU on the other hand can have 3 "jedi professions" from what I've read. Fair? Ha!


Of course you love the changes. It brings less chance that a BH will hunt YOU for posting this.







To be fair, real world bounty hunters don't kill their targets either. They apprehend them. The current bounty hunter-jedi system is more akin to black ops assassinations than bounty hunting. I don't think it's too far fetched that a black ops operative wouldn't be told his target until the time to strike.
OhBuggah
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:32 am
#49






BrendanK wrote:
I don't have a HUGE problem with the names being removed so long as it lists their faction, but the payouts? That is pretty retarded. Like others have said, what bounty hunter in their right mind would accept a mission or job without knowing how much he's being paid ahead of time? The answer? NONE.

The one slight problem I have with names being removed, is how the hell do you hunt on Kash now? It was bullsh1t enough before having to look through instances with a target macro running, but with no name, that kind of screws things now doesn't it?




Payouts are either going to be flat rate (all 225k) or randomized between something like 100k-225k irregardless of a Jedi's level. This way your concerns will be a moot point.
Purefear
Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:16 am
#50

The Bounty Hunter in SWG is actually a "Assasin" or "Hitman" in the RL world. Originally back when the word Bounty Hunter came around they were paid a bounty to bring that person in DEAD or Alive. So really the Bounty Hunters in SWG are actually Assasins. And when people want someone dead, they normally provide the name of that person along with a photograph.


Peronally i kill for the money, i dont care who my mark is and well quit frankly i shouldnt have to care. If the payout is high i go kill. I am a Bounty Hunter (Assasin) why would or should i care about the person im killing. Money is Money. Jedi choose to be jedi and with that there are consiquences of being hunted by the bounty hunters. If you never wanted to loose experience or be hunted perhaps you should of never became a jedi or the simple way of not being on the bounty hunter terminals is to go a far remote place where no one is, players or npc's. I dont think that most assasins actually kill for the hunt, i think most of them do it for the money and they do it in anyway possible. I dont think those people who got sniped from 200m away really had a fair chance... but well they are dead and ummm the person who killed them got paid.


I do like the idea about the Master Jedi and the Padawan fighting w/o gaining visability. However i dont agree that the Master can attack the bounty hunter that is attacking the padawan. It would be a two on one fight and bounty hunters wont be able to group up on the same jedi so it will be him and no one else.


I dont care who you are, if your on the terminal and worth quit a few credits i will come for you and kill you. I dont care about your experience loss... all i care about is the money. If you wanna sit there afk, more power to you, but you gonna die. I dont expect anyone to care if my jedi looses experience.


My friend however did have a good idea about giving jedi a sence ability that let them know when level 80 Creatures, NPC's, or PC's got near and it would increase in power as the jedi got stronger up to 250-300 meters. It would send a single system message that you feel that you are in danger. But you would have to figure out if it was a mob, npc, or an actual bounty hunter comming for you. But of course because the numerous life signs in kashyyk you would probably always get the system message.


I suport both sides of the fence. But if your a jedi, expect to be hunted by bounty hunters; expect them to come after you every single time you gain visibility and are added to the terminals.. you should be paying attention to your surroundings checking out every person who comes near you. Jedi's are enemies of the republic after all.





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milkchan
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:00 pm
#51






Aveweto wrote:

if they do this changes, the BH Prof will loosing all fun, coz im hunting for the money, i dont have ROTW so i cant hunt on Kash, if all or most jedi are on Kash i would have nothing to hunt, so weres that f**king fun???


do u think its funny to not know who your target is or how much u get paid for it?


and is it funny to know that your mark is on a planet u cant access and even if u can go there u cant find it without a name, does this all means fun for u?


the devs are helping the jedi pop to explode and also make them real safe, coz the Kash exploit!


so the devs are supporting exploiters than doing anything against exploiting!



WHERE DO U SEE THE FUN IN THIS PROF IF THE CHANGES ARE GOING LIFE????









your crying. seriously you are. boohoo, its actually time for you to work now. instead of finding that 30k mission.



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MeciniaLua
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:00 pm
#52


Personally its stupid.


Noone would accept a bounty mission without knowing the name and how much they were going to get paid. After all if the pay is going to be less than what you spend hunting its not going to help you.


Also there are to many respec masters meaning that any such change is pointless.


I hate to say this but I'm tired of reading the crybabies in each profession that thinks if you're not a master you aren't that profession. That's not true, in RL few people are truly masters of their chosen profession, yet so long as they are competent and work in it they are still considered that profession.





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