Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Why it pays to NOT attack LD Jedi (sometimes)
Beercules wrote:
Wales wrote:
I would kill LD or AFK no problem. The only Jedi I wouldn't kill is one loading in at a Shuttleport. That in my opinion is exploiting.
haven't you noticed that you cant target/attack someone that is loading?
when the red crosshairs show up, and you can attack, he's loaded
wrong, my last BH attack hit me 10 times before i was even loaded.
Talluin wrote:
OK, so yesterday, i grab a mission, get the info on where he is, identify and track etc...
Mark is on Naboo, i get there, eat/drink my buffet and casually stroll over to the cantina. My mark is inside and i get ready to open up. but.... LD
Now i know that some bounty hunters advocate taking the mark right then and there but, to be honest, where is the fun in that? I drop the mission and wait around for around 10 minutes, and see that my mark has come back online. I was chatting to a few people around him and then ./tell him that i had his mission and dropped it because he was LD and offer him a friendly duel with no DB. He buffs up and we go at it for around 5 mins. He beat me but we stayed in the cantina and i couldn't be bothered to try and get him outside and use the range to my advantage.
Afterwards, i say good fight and go on my merry way. a few hours later, reading through my mails, i notice that my mark has tipped me 400k credits, i /tell him that he didn't need to do that but that i was grateful.
I'm not saying that every bounty hunter should think about not killing a LD or AFK jedi, but really, where is the fun in taking out a mark that offers no resistence whatsoever?
I would have been paid 226k for killing an afk Jedi and i also would have probably lostrespect from many people as this particular Jedi is active in PvP as am i.
I'm quite sure that long term bounty hunters who are respected for their skills would have done the same thing and just dropped the mission. If not, thats their perogative. Just goes to show that a little honour in this fringe profession can pay dividends
Talluin
LOL, you guys flamed the heck out ofsome poor sapthe other day for complaining about DBing an incapped player, now all of a sudden it's ok to give a jedi a pass because they can't take the time to go to their house and log out? LOL.
LD in the middle of the cantina = Dead Jedi
I had a full temp go LD on me 20 minutes into a fight, that I had the advantage in.I finished him off. How do we know he just did not shut down his computer to try and stop the inevitable?
So an LD kill like you describe, it's ok I guess not to attack but once the fight is on it's on for me. LD or no LD.
battosai20 wrote:
Elisar wrote:
PLeasehelpmeout wrote:
mm, just last night i was fighting my mark for about 10 minutes, as drained her of force, she ran. she did that about 3 times, and then we finally came to a halt, she said please please, let me put my daughter back to bed, it will take 5 minutes, so i said alright. no more than 2 seconds later my twitching kicked in and i accidently killed her. OOPS. thats what she gets for running, stupid b_tich. thats my story : )
you sir, deserve to be flogged... she asked you for a temporary truse for a RL necessity and you agreed... and then broke your word. Thats not relentless and determined... that's heartless... can't help much imagine what kind of PERSON you are in RL..
Don't mean to sound insensitive, but I would have just said stop attacking me and let me kill you already then you can put her to bed. How do I know she is telling the truth? I don't get involved in R/L situations if I have too, once I attack that's it unless something wierd happens. Like my house is on fire or something.
in this instance if the jedi had sat down... as a former BH, i would have concluded there was something afoot and she was just saying that for a chance to log safely. And i would have summarilt completed the mission. However, having already discussed that going LD does NOT save your xp, If she remained standing and i did Not see the LD indicator appear, i would have presumed she was on the up and up and i would have KEPT MY WORD on the truse until her return.
BH always talk about the thrill of the hunt and the challenge of the fight. Yet most of you here advocate not necessarily picking the best TIME to initiate your attack, but simply killing the Jedi when they have no opportunity to even defend themselves. They weren't being 'dumb' or 'stupid', they were LD. And i don't know of one single JEDI that would go LD in the middle of a fight on purpose or anywhere in public for that matter. Its just plain dumb. So you go ahead and brag and take your screenies of all the LD jedi you've killed and convince yourself that you've accomplished something. Whether it be the the myth that your purpose in the game is to cull the Jedi population or just your DEV given right to take advantage of a situation that the Jedi has absolutely no control over.
Most of you just dont seem to get it. SOE gave you the ABILITY to engage a jedi in combat thru player bounties. That has never meant the jedi had to accomodate you if he can evade and avoid. The fact that so many get so obsessively malicious in your pursuit of your mark is exactly why YOU will be the reason it gets taken out altogether. YOU are the reason that Jedi names no longer appear on the terminals, You are the reason that you can't tell how advanced your mark is on the terminals anymore thru the payout.
I have fought, killed and been killed by pretty up and up BH's. Yes, We JEDI DO know we will get hunted WHEN we get on the terms ( you really can't avoid it). But the reason Jedi hate BH's so much is because it is a profession that attracts some very malicious people. It is the only profession in the game that allows a player to directly interfere, harrass and abuse another player. The bottom feeders in ages past, until the anonymous Jedi publish, are proof positive of this and the behaviors exhibited in this thread and throughout the BH forums make this self evident. Its a fact... plain and simple.
Yeah yeah i know many of you will validate your behavior by giving the standard 'stay off the terms' and knew it when they became jedi' spill. ' It's not my job to fight fair " BLAH BLAH BLAH. Jedi have never ASKED you to let them dope up before a fight.. or 'hang on a second, i'm not ready" they DO expect you to be relentless and ruthless in the attack. BUTin the end, you HAVE to remember there is a person on the other side of that toon that may not always have the TIME to engage in a 1-2 hr fight with a BH. That the Jedi may NEED to put the kids to bed for a few minutes, that may simply have to go tinkle. And they sure enough shouldn't have to be subjected to the remarks and gestures many BH give when they DO go down. YOU ARE THE BAD GUY to jedi simply because you CHOSE to come after them. They know its coming, sooner or later and sometimes often. But guys, More times than not, HOW you do something is more important than WHAT you do.
You wanna stalk your mark waiting for things to swing in your favor? GREAT IDEA,, i did.
You wanna blow your cover and stand out in the open in the wilderness... alone... all buff... and expect to get the sneak attack in? DUMB idea, but your decision to make.
JUST don't EXPECT the JEdi to STAND there and die when they KNOW they don't have the power to beat you. It's you job to defeat them, not theirs to defeat you. Any time a jedi lives thru a BH attack, he has won. Whether thats getting away by breaking tef long enough to get in a house. Getting far enough away to log safely or simply evading you and running all over the planet until you give up. THATS the way it is designed. Not for them to HAVE to stand there and die so you can complete your mission. And if they are house sitting, so what? Go get another mission. Theres a thousand reasons ANY player would be afk or simply camped out in their house. And if you say you've neverwent afkor afk camped or simply just sat in one place for a while to do whatever ( craft, chat, ponder the origins of the universe) you're lying. It's an inconvenience for you, the self absorbed BH. So you want to be able to 'pick the lock' or use some exploit to kick that jedi out of their house... THEIR HOUSE!
I said All that to say this. The nerf bat swings heavy against the Jedi, ( we also know THAT when we go the saber route) and yes, there's alot of a$$hat jedi out there. But just because you have some big hardon fo killing jedi because of some past transgression by one in a previous life, dosent give you the RIGHT to harrass them in general. Pick your mission, go complete it, if you cant, go get another. BH for bounties isn't a get rich quick profession ( though the loot is nice) You have the option for Jedi bounties and you SHOULD hunt them. But you need to have your head in the right place for it. Because SOE is watching... and they DO know there's alot of tension between the 2 classes. And no matter howmuch you dislike Jedi ( until you become one... and you will) it is not a license for malicious behavior.
Jedi brag about killing BH because they remember how many times they got pwned as a low level paddie by some CL 80 BH who thought he'd won the WWE title. And that makes em bitter. But they have never been able to hunt you. They have nothing to gain from an encounter with you and everything to lose. So if you ALLOW them to escape, it's because you failed in your duties. Suck it up and try again. But keep in mind that regardless of your vision of your role as a BH, you are still capable of honorable behavior.
And that means if you make an Agreement it should be honored. Whether it be for a temporary truse to allow the Jedi to put her kids to bed, or you agree to accept a payoff to drop the Jedi's mission. After all, your here for the thrill RIGHT? Thats what i keep hearing. So where is the thrill in breaking your word or attacking an LD Jedi or killing a low level padawan for that matter. I am a firm believer thata player's toon directly reflects it's owners persona. And some people in this game are just plain mean and petty. And it is most ehibited here in the BH ranks. The truth hurts. Jedi and players in general all have faults, but it is here where so much petty malice is housed where you you see it shine.
The BH are responsible for the names and bounty listings on the terminals being altered and removed. And you remember you heard it here first... Eventually SOE will remove player bounties altogether for just this reason.
OK... someone else can have my soap box now.. I'm done preaching.
Be seeing ya
Dodece wrote:
Lol I follow the eula on this before logging out a player should find a safe place to do so. If your a jedi that would probabally be your house or a sufficently distant location. You drive out and thus will have the five minutes to successfully disappear. Its all good and right to nuke them LD.
LD does not mean logged out, it means Link Dead, which basically means their connection to the server has somehow failed.
This can be through many reasons, they got a crash to desktop, their pc rebooted itself, their ISP shut down, they got 2hr cut off on their internet connection etc etc. I seriously believe that anyone who kills an LD character is out of order totally, it's nottheir fault they are LD, tings happen games crash, SOE should make it so that when a character is flagged as LD they are un-attackable until they dissapear fromt he game and log back in.