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Thread: Jedi Forum
Dlek_Krego wrote:
lifeisdeath wrote:
Dlek_Krego wrote:
lifeisdeath wrote:
jedi should gain NOTHING except more time when fighting a BH. being hunted is a punishment for being on the terminals.
what do criminals gain from killing the cops that are after them?Message Edited by lifeisdeath on 05-12-2005 07:00 PM
And this is precisely why you will find the majority either running or hiding in a house.
And please stop with the comparisons between BH's and Cops... BH's are NOT the law enforcement of SWG, regaurdless of how much you like to think you are.
the comparison is with jedi and criminals. but we ARE the law enforcement of SWG.
i dont care if you run and hide. i can always find you later. i am tired of the "we deserve to be rewarded if we win" posts. which, as you seem to keep missing, was the point.
Well, my deluded young friend, the point of this thread was to ask "Why Jedi don't want to fight."... so regaurdless of your willingness to hear it, We gave the answer.Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 05-12-2005 05:28 PM
"Arent they going to stand up and fight us?"
"They have no reason to fight the BH's whatsoever. None. "
"What's in it for the jedi, really?"
"well maybe for example if a 34-40k jedi gets killed then that jedi should not be on the terms for say 20 hrs to give him time get the debt back as well as some more exp now once that jedi becomes worth say 41k-100k and killed then he should not be on the terms again for 10hrs, once he hits say 150k or 200k hes back on after an hour.."
no, the only answer you give is "we get nothing for it, give us something and we will stay and fight."
again, my point is you shouldnt get something for winning. the only thing you should get is more time to stay away from people. that is your incentive. to not die.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
KaRoqMouge wrote:
They way i see it as, there are those Jedi who will talk thier smack then run away the first sight of a BH.
Some of them, sure.Some of them talk smack, stay and fight and talk more smack after you kill them.
Some of them don't say a word and head for the hills.
Some of them rabbit and talk smack the whole time they're running away.
Hey now...
And some stay and fight, and win or lose, say gf and don't talk smack.
Message Edited by AmonTdow on 05-13-2005 01:17 AM
lifeisdeath wrote:
jedi should gain NOTHING except more time when fighting a BH. being hunted is a punishment for being on the terminals.
what do criminals gain from killing the cops that are after them?
Message Edited by lifeisdeath on 05-12-200507:00 PM
KaRoqMouge wrote:
It's funny i was just reading on the Jedi forum and all i see is people talking about runing away from BH, and cloak. Arent they going to stand up and fight us?
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
KaRoqMouge wrote:
well maybe the devs should change it that if a Jedi is bd by a BH the dont lose xp, maybe they will fight then. Im not looking for an easy kil i expect some really hard marks, I encourage it so i can learn that way. But I just hope when i finally track one down they dont log, or run the whole time.
Taking away exp loss isn't really the answer. Jedi is supposed to be tough. Taking away exp loss would result in more and more "Jedi Sightings", which would tick off the haters. Jedi should be in hiding, at least until they're strong enough to handle BH's. They should have that ever-present possibility of exp loss.
There are ways tothrow bones toJedi to stay and fight that don't take away that threat. However, the Dev's either haven't looked at them or feel they're not worth implementing.
I think taking away xp loss would be a great thing, not that it matters to me anymore. I completed my Jedi grind a LONG time ago, and I only had 2 BH deaths and I never cared if I was on the terms or not. (I was on erms 24/7) I actually provol\ked BHs to try and kill me.
Jedi is already easy enough, BHs don't make it hard; they just delay the inevitable. BH is NOT population control, if it really is, you guys are doing a horrible job...
I think if xp loss was removed, Jedi would stay and fight. It's be more fun fOr the Jedi and the BH.
Not to mention, this would eliminate a HUGE chunk of the BH griefers (the ones that are only BH to make Jedi lose xp, which is considered griefing whether people like it or not)
The crying would be so great if it were taken away, even though Jedi is very simple to get and complete. Only time consuming.
Nothing in this game is hard, just takes time. Like the old system w/ holo grinding, was mastering 31 professions hard? Hell no, but was it time consuming? Yeah
Some kind of controls would need to be put in place so that Jedi couldn't just get their alt and make him a BH and just get missions and kill the BH over and over so he could level up fast. But I'm sure there must be some way to control something like that.
This would give an equal reward and an equal loss. Seems to me it would make it a whole lot more tempting for some jedi who lost 256k xp two days ago to stay and fight to possibly get out of the hole in just one fight rather than a week of grinding.
Roicou wrote:
What about leaving the xp loss as it is but add in that if the Jedi kills the BH he gets the opposite, he gets the amount of xp he would have lost if he lost. So for example, say a Jedi mission is worth 128k. He would lose 256k xp if he loses the fight. If he wins the fight he gets 256k xp. That might make it a little more tempting for the Jedi to stay and fight. If he does lose, all he has to do is win one or two fights and he is back out of the hole. If he always runs then he just has to spend his time grinding back the xp he loses.
Some kind of controls would need to be put in place so that Jedi couldn't just get their alt and make him a BH and just get missions and kill the BH over and over so he could level up fast. But I'm sure there must be some way to control something like that.
This would give an equal reward and an equal loss. Seems to me it would make it a whole lot more tempting for some jedi who lost 256k xp two days ago to stay and fight to possibly get out of the hole in just one fight rather than a week of grinding.
No because then you would get a Situation like half the jedi before the CU had. All the Jedi with BH alts and the BH that were friends of the jedi , all lining up and killing in a fight club situation to get master or knight. This game is totally out of balance and needs to be discontinued till all the bugs and sh!t is worked out. The BH should be able to kill Knights, that would ease up on the Pad hunting and griefing. At the Same time i feel that a BH having some kind of Penalty is justified if the BH/Jedi is balenced out for combat. Jedi loose XP. BH and maybeall professions will be loosing XP on death shortly.
This game is gearing towards a Nervous breakdown, lol , and nothing is getting fixed. BH have problems with Jedi, and Jedi have Problems with BH. Its the only thing being posted about on the Forums. The Crafters are all quitting and dancers are getting harder to come by. Merchants wont stick around, nothing to sell, everything it too hard to kill to get any loot. The economy in this game is failing also. Doctors, what doctors, lol , and a CM, what CM, they are nothing more than hyped up nurses now. This game went from being guts and glory to pure JUNK. Bad Code, Crashes constantly, in game Content being costly and not added for the hours we have spent playing it. Poor content, The lieing and deceiving that has been in the managment and development since day 1. Sick man, makes me sick. Theres nothing gonna save this game, most players that have quit have found peace in something else , and maybe , just maybe, they may come back one day. BUt talking about balance in this game, might as well beat your head against a brick wall till yapass out, the ideas of the customers and suggestions of thousands has gone unheard.
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Message Edited by Soterios on 10-20-2005 09:18 PM