Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi get to heal while kd...why?
OhBuggah
Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:58 pm
#40
eh? you're comparing a saber made with crappy materials to a weapon made with top-of-the-line materials. well, that doesn't make sense. you're stacking the deck to support a feeble argument. a fair comparison is a saber made with crappy materials vs. a weapon made with stuff that comes out of a resource recycler.
Qwad wrote:
kthxbye
Qwad
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:02 pm
#41
OhBuggah wrote:
eh? you're comparing a saber made with crappy materials to a weapon made with top-of-the-line materials. well, that doesn't make sense. you're stacking the deck to support a feeble argument. a fair comparison is a saber made with crappy materials vs. a weapon made with stuff that comes out of a resource recycler.
Qwad wrote:
kthxbye
All that's available is crappy pearls and crystals, don't you get it? Oh wait of course you don't you don't need to make one.
Eskie
Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:00 pm
#42
OhBuggah wrote:
eh? you're comparing a saber made with crappy materials to a weapon made with top-of-the-line materials. well, that doesn't make sense. you're stacking the deck to support a feeble argument. a fair comparison is a saber made with crappy materials vs. a weapon made with stuff that comes out of a resource recycler.
Qwad wrote:
kthxbye
No. His comparison is right on the spot.
Best resources are available for all weapons made by weaponsmiths on all servers. In standard weaponry, 95%+ average resource quality is standard and readily available.
For lightsabers, however, resources only play a minor role. The power of a lightsaber is directly related to the pearls and crystals loaded inside.
Those looted components are currently not available in the quantity needed to produce top-of-the-line lightsabers. 50% crystal / pearl quality is the average that is available, with very few being above.
On top of that, regular weapons can be sliced and used with powerups, options not available for lightsabers.
Looking at all this, his comparison was right - every BH will be running around with a maxed-out weapon, while most Jedi will be running around with a mediocre saber.
Qwad
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:15 am
#43
OhBuggah wrote:
Qwad wrote:
All that's available is crappy pearls and crystals, don't you get it? Oh wait of course you don't you don't need to make one.
I've been hit pretty hard with sabers that have had plenty of post-CU crystals/pearls in them.
What you really want to say is that the best of the best of the best pearls are not available. The current best crystals/pearls that drop now are enough to make a weapon from a weapon class that is better than any non-Jedi weapon available. People like you who do not know how to PvP think maximum damage is a measure of a weapon's strength. It is not.
No, what I'm saying is good pearls and crystals are unavailable.
Qwad
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:18 am
#44
Qwad wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
Qwad wrote:
All that's available is crappy pearls and crystals, don't you get it? Oh wait of course you don't you don't need to make one.
I've been hit pretty hard with sabers that have had plenty of post-CU crystals/pearls in them.
What you really want to say is that the best of the best of the best pearls are not available. The current best crystals/pearls that drop now are enough to make a weapon from a weapon class that is better than any non-Jedi weapon available. People like you who do not know how to PvP think maximum damage is a measure of a weapon's strength. It is not.
No, what I'm saying is good pearls and crystals are unavailable.
see?
And that thread wasnt started too long ago.
Parnakido
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:29 am
#45
You can do it over and overwith stimDsand ruby. If you are on your back all the time and worried about it, then you need to learn to kite better. Jedi can be attacked at any time. You can catch them at any time(including when their stomach is full). Why must you embarrass your fellow BHs that are good at what they do? You are a disgrace to your profession.
Message Edited by Parnakido on 09-03-2005 06:30 PM
Darkside8401
Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:20 am
#46
Everyone quit whining...every one has been or will eventually will be nerfed...i remember when BH was a pvp god..how it should be..."a Bounty Hunter = 1 on 1 combat specialist" does any other profession have that description?...NO...All BH's have ever wanted was a lvl playing field..whilst jedi have always wanted the upperhand...yes you may spend months working on your template...but its YOUR choice. BH should be able to hold their own angainst full temp jedi...and when i say "hold their own"..i dont mean it should be no challenge..yes it should be challenging..no side should hold all the advantages....unless we catch you off guard..(which jedi call griefing) we stand no chance in Hades...granted whines and moans abound on both sides..and its getting tiresome..everyone needs to grow up and realize...ITS A GAME!!!! and to all you nerf criers..realize that in the REAL world..you dont always get your way..unlike in SOE land
DeadlyTedly
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:30 am
#47
cptsparrow wrote:Why is it that every other profession can heal to some extent but not while kd. Why is this a jedi only thing. There is not one reason why a jedi should be able to heal while kd and no one esle can. This is the most unbalanceing thig in the game, either everyone should be able to or no one should. I've lost many fights when i got kd and the kd bug and couldnt heal, where if i kd a jedi he can just lay there and heal away, this is unfair and should be looked at.
FYI:
1) KD bug also prevents Jedi heals. It prevents all actions
2) Either way a profession should not be nerfed to balance a bug.
3) Stims
4) Imagine if you had to master tka in your BH template to get any armour. That is what it is like for Jedi atm.
5) Jedi use the focusing of their mind and body with the force to heal, they can do that in any position. Other toons have to use bandages/dressings, drugs etc - try that while you're flat on your back.
6) Learn your template or get a more suited one.
Samurai_XD
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:32 am
#48
if they couldnt do it it would be unbalancing duhh we dont need them crying now, and they are like every other profession in the game basically, they should have the same restrictions, because they can use stims also
Darkside8401
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:33 am
#49
ok they can heal after i KD them..fair enough..theyve trained their minds..bodies..yada yada yada...why cant i shoot them after they KD me?...ive trained myself to be a deadly wielder of carbine weaponry...why cant i lay on my back and blast some globat swinging simpleton that runs towards me thinking hes won?..and
Eskie
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:40 am
#50
Samurai_XD wrote:if they couldnt do it it would be unbalancing duhh we dont need them crying now, and they are like every other profession in the game basically, they should have the same restrictions, because they can use stims also
- Jedi are not as any other profession - 30 million Jedi xp (about 180 million regular xp) is a huge difference
- Same restrictions only if they have the same capabilities. Jedi damage output is lower than BH damage output, Jedi healing is inferior to CM / Doc healing, Jedi cannot use droids or SEAs to improve their healing, either.
Samurai_XD
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:49 am
#51
Just becuase yuou grind longer means nothing, thats your choice, Jedi feel like they are entitled, grinding is not hard at all considering how many respeced, afk ground or just got a whole bunch of jedi together and you all just sat around and spammed area attacks, only jedi that should have special treatment are the pre cu, but then all the new jedi would complain that they arent loved enough, i think its stupid and jedi shouldn't have unmassed power, how is it fair?
Darkside8401
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:50 am
#52
ummm ok i havent had any jedi missions yet...only b/c im not an MBH but ive dueled plenty..and as a master carb x444 bh i admit i do have awesome dmg output..but its not superior to jedis...sabre armor break + (insert random atk here) = ouch..we dont get an armor break..only a small chance of a critical strike..and the droid enhacing healing bit..ummmm how many bh whip out a droid to help healing?...i dont know any..and if they did..the jedi is the moron for letting it sit there and not destroying it . oh and one more thing...yes BH can use healing eff SEAs to help..ever think that we HAVE to so we can deal with being out dmgd by jedi?
Message Edited by Darkside8401 on 09-03-2005 04:52 AM