Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Publish 23 and the BH (on TC now).
Gawzeera wrote:
I had a boss lvl mark last night that i could not kill. even with my droids help.I'm master BH/Master carbs pistols 4/0/0/4. ...
where is the balance or fun in this? how am i supposed to kill something which due to theseriously flawed lvl system is naturaly better than me? even though the numbers above his head say i'm hitting for 1400 dmg(after a KD) and around 900(before a KD) and i am only getting hit for 300 or so he still always comes out on top and eventually kills me. 4 times i was killed by this particular mark and then i simply dropped the mission. its far to costly to take wounds, and decay on armor and weapons to warrent the pay out.
Ulrek_Oden wrote:
LOL people still think it is nerfed.....
Here is a hint... the devs DO NOT have to release a publish or a hotfix if they wanted to nerf the loot... so stop thinking it is nerfed every time there is a hotfix....
Its just silly.
BTW I have made approximately 28 million credits in loot that I looted in the past 2 days...
Ya nerfed indeed
LOL
How many missions did you run and what level MBH or Lower? I made quite a bit of credits at the onset of the changes but there has been a change, now go away fanboy.
Cesare wrote:
Well it must just be horribly bad luck for everybody else then. What exactly are you selling for all these uber credits, I'd like to see the prices for your server economy.
EVERYBODY ELSE?
Tanks wrote:
Gawzeera wrote:
I had a boss lvl mark last night that i could not kill. even with my droids help.I'm master BH/Master carbs pistols 4/0/0/4. ...
where is the balance or fun in this? how am i supposed to kill something which due to theseriously flawed lvl system is naturaly better than me? even though the numbers above his head say i'm hitting for 1400 dmg(after a KD) and around 900(before a KD) and i am only getting hit for 300 or so he still always comes out on top and eventually kills me. 4 times i was killed by this particular mark and then i simply dropped the mission. its far to costly to take wounds, and decay on armor and weapons to warrent the pay out.
The problem is that the mark has 30K Health. Lets do some basic math. Assume you average 1K damage per shot. You'd have to hit him app. 30 times to kill him. Lets assume after buffs etc. you have 4K health and use a stim twice for 2400 heal. He'd have to hit you 17 times to incap/db you.
You get the picture. In a fight of attrition you will lose every time UNLESS you have some healing skills. By the way the same marks do about 600+ damage to me due to my crappy pre-CU armor (save the 8100+ energy one for the Jedi), but I have always had healing.
My marks are hitting me for upwards to 500 and have a 38k HAM. But there are two differences in my tactics then what the posted listed:
- I use Rifle and exploit the 50m - 65m advantage to the fullist
- Snare gives me some free shots while kiting
- KD gives me another Shot
- Root gives me another 4 free shots
- DRINKS!
- Ruby Bile Macro is a must if you don't have a any Medical Skills!
- Every time you hit a Stim D, take a Ruby Pile after it. This gives you the ability to instintly take another Stim D. You can repeat this up to 7 times before you stomach is full (Assuming you take no other drinks)
That tactic works for me EVERY time. With the new food/drink stacking rules you don't lose much by leaving out the other drinks. You can still get the following all based on foods and all less then 100 filling combined:
- +300 health and +200 Action Regen
- +90 Ranged & Melee Defense
- +50 Ranged Accuracy
- +50 Dodge
- +20% Health. +20% Action Regin (Spice)
Tanks wrote:
Only Master Bounty Hunters will be able to draw Boss level Marks. Translation:
If you are a novice you will only see normals, if you have invest 2 you will see small chance of elite, if you are MBH you will see nothing but elites and small chance of bosses.
Message Edited by Tanks on 08-22-2005 10:42 PM
I already see a small chance of boss marks. 1 out of 40 since 22.
Me too!
DTQ wrote:
bobgone wrote:
Fleiwia wrote:
I havnt had a non elite non boss mark since publish 22...
me either
Same here
Now I'm going to have to write a guide with screen shots on how to take down high HAM bosses without any healing skills. I do it all the time.
Tanks wrote:
Gawzeera wrote:
I had a boss lvl mark last night that i could not kill. even with my droids help.I'm master BH/Master carbs pistols 4/0/0/4. ...
where is the balance or fun in this? how am i supposed to kill something which due to theseriously flawed lvl system is naturaly better than me? even though the numbers above his head say i'm hitting for 1400 dmg(after a KD) and around 900(before a KD) and i am only getting hit for 300 or so he still always comes out on top and eventually kills me. 4 times i was killed by this particular mark and then i simply dropped the mission. its far to costly to take wounds, and decay on armor and weapons to warrent the pay out.
The problem is that the mark has 30K Health. Lets do some basic math. Assume you average 1K damage per shot. You'd have to hit him app. 30 times to kill him. Lets assume after buffs etc. you have 4K health and use a stim twice for 2400 heal. He'd have to hit you 17 times to incap/db you.
You get the picture. In a fight of attrition you will lose every time UNLESS you have some healing skills. By the way the same marks do about 600+ damage to me due to my crappy pre-CU armor (save the 8100+ energy one for the Jedi), but I have always had healing.
what Tank has said is absolutely true. that is why I have dropped my master marksman and take up novice Medic 0/0/2/0.
Before that I always loss on killing elite mark. After the alternation of my template, I was able to kill elite and boss without any problem.
Well I for one am working on Inv 4 now and have NEVER gotten a boss mark and get the elite marks every so often and EVERY SINGLE TIME I get an elite mark I take forever to kill it and then get junk foraged crap!
Just my little rant. I hope when I get to master things improve.
I have lots of healing in my template. It helps a lot. 2000 in healing in about 3 seconds. and i can do it every 3 seconds. Against npc'sI pit my Mind bar against the mobs health bar. So accuracy and speed help a bunch. Pop some booster blue plus accuracy food and with healer in your template you almost cant lose. Im normally at half mind or more at the end ofa fight.
One of the problems I see is people spamming shots until they have no action left. I generally try to keep myactionat 50 percent or higher. It seems to regen faster and i always have the action there if i need to kd recover. Conserving action acctually seems to make the fight go a lot faster. So three or four specials then take a break. then repeat. it becomes habit.
I never use kd shots on npc's either seems a waste as they stand up right away anyways. Also i dont really use duelist stance as it dosnt seem to help all that much. <please prove me wrong there, been looking for a viable reason to use it>.
Anyways just some tips for you all to try if your having some trouble. And if its mostly common knowledge, well i dont visit often.
MrThallid wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Only Master Bounty Hunters will be able to draw Boss level Marks.
Translation:
If you are a novice you will only see normals, if you have invest 2 you will see small chance of elite, if you areMBH you will see nothing but elites and small chance of bosses.
Message Edited by Tanks on 08-22-2005 10:42 PM
Are they "fixing" the loot table concerning elites and bosses? I was getting better drops from "normal" marks. Elites are giving me 1 smuggler component and bosses are giving 1 smuggler and 1 jar of bugs.
I hope so. Being forced to fight tough marks who drop jars of berries and paintings is going to get real old real fast. To be honest, I can't think of one thing a gold <BOSS> mark dropped that made wasting my time on them worth it. My entire BH suit was looted from non-boss marks (2 pieces were from elites), all my skill tapes were from non-bosses/elites, my armor attachment - non boss/elite, power cell - non boss/elite....
Maybe it is just bad luck, but I hope it is at least looked at to see if things are as they should be, because I know I am not the only one.