Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Whats the point if all the jedi stop playing?
BadKarma777 wrote:
Well, honetsly, the idea that the developers are trying to force Jedi out of the game is rather absurd.
Do you honestly think if that was the cae, they'd provide such a direct path to unlock as the village?
TBH though, if they did run Jedi out of the game, I think I'd do backflips.
We could possibly get a GCW again, smugglers might actually get some serious attention (not the chinsy fluff that's been thrown around lately) and we could even see a player bounty system established.
Personally, I'd say delete the jedi and implement every single proposal GreenMarine ever put forth for a Smuggler revamp - we'd never miss Jedi.
You might be right, but the only reason for that is becausethere are alot of jedis and whats the point of being any profession besides bh if your not grinding for jedi.Only the production professions get played, but they probably have a alt bh or a alt jedi. Pvpis for non-bh, non-jedi is a lost art.
Message Edited by swiftstriker on 10-20-2005 06:20 PM
Astroamish wrote:
Without Jedi there is no reason to have Bountyhunters.Dunno about that. Plenty of other people BH's could hunt besides Jedi (Rebels, Smugglers,etc.). But yeah, if SOE is trying to thin the numbers this has got to be the clusiest way to go about it.
Would you still think it's a good idea when a BH comes for Ma'rea-Master Merchant/Master Architect/Master Artisan
Didn't think so. Try again.
Everitt_Cage wrote:
swiftstriker wrote:
While the few and the proud bhs try to keep the game in balance.
BH is the most played proffession in the game...
Then stop playing. See...? The simplest solution to all your woes...
sabbatu wrote:
This game has turned into a big joke.
Everitt_Cage wrote:
Tabby224 wrote:
Its my belief that the Devs find themselves in the situation of having been stupid and allowing 1/3 if not 1/2 of all the players to be Jedi, which is completely ridiculous according to this games time period. That being the case, the only way they can reduce this number is to nerf Jedi slowly but surely, and HOPE that instead of canceling, people will take up easier to get proffessions that are more powerful and get back to the GCW. It makes sense in a twisted way, and its really the only solution to thinning out the numbers of Jedi(if that is indeed what they want to do), as they cant just delete people's characters.
That may very well be true, but it may turn around and bite them in the ass. People that are long term vets are quitting, and people that have 2 and more accounts are quitting. This publish sucks (and if you think that BH'ers won't eventually get nerfed from this you are delusional), and if that's what they are trying to do, then they truly are stupid to think this is the way to go about it. So they honestly think that I would give up my Jedi that I took so long to grind and get like I want to take on another profession just because they have screwed up the profession. I'd cancel my account before I'd do that, and the other 2 accounts I have too, and go to another game not owned by SOE. If I cancel I sure as hell am not giving SOE any more money,and I'm sure others feel that way too. *shakeshead* Didn't thier mommies ever teach them 2 wrongs don't make a right? You don't fix something by breaking it more.
Hey, dont disagree with you there, but how else can they remove the ridiculous amount of Jedi? There really is no good way to be honest.
Oh but that's simple, make jedi WAY more challenging. Put the lvl of jedi back on the terminals. Make jedi 2 - 3 times more powerfull then any template non jedi. Then give BH the ability to group hunt again. Increase the penalties for dieing to BH and also give pentalties for dieing to anything else. In short, restore jedi to what they once were, and give htem all the penalties that go with it. Back in the day, when permadeath was around you never saw jedi out there in coronet killing people... not until they KNEW FOR SURE they could handle it. It was way too risky to just gain vis.(i don't think permadeath the way it was should be brought back by the way, because in a game where the game can crash, it's not fair to kill of a jedi because of game crashing or lag or some other technical issue)
I think jedi need some really good lovin right now, but at the same time they need to have some hard core penalties re-installed into their profession. I think if the penalties start coming back, you'll see a lot of jedi pack up and leave because they arn't up for the challenge. Even if they are more powerfull(cause lets' face it, some people just don't know the first thing about PvP)
Rocketman2047 wrote:
So much for balance........WTG SOE you guys have to be the worst game makers in the world
LordMarr wrote:If every jedi stopped playing, it would be beautiful. My BH would be out of a job as player bounties goes but atleast we have the GCW back and that would be a funexercise to revisit.
You forget that most jedi are all the PvP'ers. Even with their alts they PvP. Get rid of jedi, and a lot of PvPer's will be going too. Some because they lost their jedi, others because their friends have all left the game.
The few Jedi players would be elite.
GCW wouldn't be flooded with Jedi.
...hmmmmmm....how is this bad? I've been fighting this war since Pub 9.
DJK_73 wrote:At this point the only thing Jedi can do is stay in hiding and do whatever it takes to stay off the terminal, so they will not be hunted.That is my 2 cents and I have spoken my peace here.
And this is exactly what the Jedi players should be doing in this timeline. Only Jedi like DJK_73 will survive.
DJK_73 wrote:
I agree with the fact the Jedi will never stop playing. I myself as a Jedi have try my best to stay off the terminal. It just amazes me that when I go over to Theed I see endless Jedi PvPing. For me itwould be nice to participate in that, but for all the visibility you gain it is not worth it to me. At this point the only thing Jedi can do is stay in hiding and do whatever it takes to stay off the terminal, so they will not be hunted.
That is my 2 cents and I have spoken my peace here.
Now my alt is a Master Artisan / Master Merchant and my Jedi is my PVE character. In order for me to stay off the terminals I would have to never attack another NPC or do any missions that involved killing NPC's such as the Vette or Avatar. So what content does that leave for me? I have already killed enough Pickets / Gurks / Quenkers / Bols etc to last a lifetime.
I do not understand why there is so much hatred between Jedi and BH's. Perhaps alot has to do with the age and mentality of the person behind the keyboard. I have never had a bad experience playing my Jedi vs a BH....win or lose. I have been DB'd after being incapped while grinding. Only response I had to that BH was /tell Mr.BountyHunter: Perfect timing man......good job. I do not say "Pw3D!!" and stupid crap like that when I kill a BH either. I either say nothing at all or if it was a good fight, I sent them a tell letting them know I enjoyed the fight.
The problem is the lack of communication that the Devs have with the players. For instance, the snare changes are the latest uproar right now. The changes were tested in beta and received horrible feedback, yet they went ahead and pushed it live. I know the pre-pub 24 there was an issue that in some cases snares could be stacked. So instead of fixing the stacking issue they totally changed how snares work. This is not just unbalanced for Jedi, it is unbalanced for all Melee professions. ( I have yet to try or even see the new Rancor Aid in game )
Also the Squad Leader buffs are starting to become a hot topic. I have seen some insane damage numbers that Riflemen can do to Melee stackers and MDEF Jedi. Hitting for 7k damage before armor mitigation unbalanced? You guys tell me. The CU was based upon balance and allowing people a wide variety of template that would be viable in both PvP and PvE. Did it work out that way? No...this game is just as unbalanced as it was Pre-CU and there will never be a perfect balance.
I think what frustrates the players more than anything is that most of these changes that get put on live servers have either been in Beta or on the Test Center. They have already had some sort of Focus thread and the Devs have received tons of feedback, yet they choose to ignore the issues and push it live. That is what creates such an uproar.
We all pay the same amount of money regardless of our profession and I feel that if the Devs would listen to the players and have better communication with future changes there would be alot less hate in this game. Also I feel that older bugs / issues for all professions need to receive immediate attention. The CU has been out 5-6 months ( with 2 expansions created
and there are still major issues that need to be addressed for each profession.
Sorry did not mean to rant that long, must have had too much coffee this morning. 
Usama wrote:
DJK_73 wrote:
I agree with the fact the Jedi will never stop playing. I myself as a Jedi have try my best to stay off the terminal. It just amazes me that when I go over to Theed I see endless Jedi PvPing. For me itwould be nice to participate in that, but for all the visibility you gain it is not worth it to me. At this point the only thing Jedi can do is stay in hiding and do whatever it takes to stay off the terminal, so they will not be hunted.
That is my 2 cents and I have spoken my peace here.
Just curious, not a flame towards your post, but what you are saying is spend the time to grind Jedi....then never participate in any quests or play your Jedi in the expansions? I do not PvP in Theed or duel my Jedi in public, but I am ALWAYS on the terminals. I have no problem knowing that I am open to be attacked by a BH at anytime while I am playing. I PvE 99% of the time, whether it be doing quests or just out hunting with friends. I mastered all the professions that interested me before unlocking Jedi, in fact I had unlocked 7 FS branches before I decided to do the Padawan Trials.
Okay, I understandwhen a Jedi claims they haven't done anything to gain vis, and end up on the terms anyway its unfair. For you to go out and kill endless bols for a week and still have a bounty placed is unfair.
Now my alt is a Master Artisan / Master Merchant and my Jedi is my PVE character. In order for me to stay off the terminals I would have to never attack another NPC or do any missions that involved killing NPC's such as the Vette or Avatar. So what content does that leave for me? I have already killed enough Pickets / Gurks / Quenkers / Bols etc to last a lifetime.
If a reward is as attractive for you to attempt the Vette or Avatar knowing that you'll gain vis by doin so...then deal with it. You don't need to do those quest multiple times, but if you feel like it...then yes, a bounty should be placed since you've shown the public (humanoid NPC)that you are a Jedi. Thats the reality that you're in. Your class is hunted. You've always known this. You knew it before you took on the task of a Jedis life.
Most of your other points I agree with. I for one am not a little kiddie behind a keyboard and would certainly tip my hat to a respectable Jedi like yourself after a victory...or defeat.