Bounty Hunter Archive

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Camelz wrote:

Actually Caelrie's troll head hasn't been working for a while now. I have agreed with quite a few of her posts recently (not all tho lol). She is one of the few Jedi on the boards these days that understands how the Jedi/BH relationship is supposed to work, I just think she doesn't like BHs particularly, but I dont have a problem with that. She knows when we kill a low level padi, it's not griefing it is game mechanics adding to the difficulty level of the Padis grind. She agrees that exploiters should be dealt with.

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Caelrie wrote:

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Camelz wrote:

Actually Caelrie's troll head hasn't been working for a while now. I have agreed with quite a few of her posts recently (not all tho lol). She is one of the few Jedi on the boards these days that understands how the Jedi/BH relationship is supposed to work, I just think she doesn't like BHs particularly, but I dont have a problem with that. She knows when we kill a low level padi, it's not griefing it is game mechanics adding to the difficulty level of the Padis grind. She agrees that exploiters should be dealt with.

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People usually discover that I'm a pretty reasonable person after they stop assuming I'm like the Jedi whiners and start listening to what I'm actually saying.

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some times...

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Jedi_Paddowan wrote:
Starcia needs to try not using some exploits herself before she throws stones. Like not sitting withCSRTim, Ghavin, and Ycyin theLOS zone to have a chat for an hour, and not using /unstick. Yes, Starcia, that's an exploit too. Sadly, we all have screenshots of these happening but we dont waste money to buy domain name to host pics for harassing other players. Hypocrits make the worst prosecutors. The reason jedi hunt there is not mainly because of the LOS zone, it is because of the good spawn, nowhere else is it like that there. But, BH dont see that, becausethey just like pointing fingers and harassing people.

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I didn't have a problem initially with this tactic used on the trails by the jedi... but frankly I didn't know to what level it was truelly going to.. I can log into each instance and at the feral wookie camp there is atleast 4 jedi grinding there. You can post them on the forums saying bh's go get these people and we go... The fact is there is a few spots that I guarentee they have wp'd because in those spots nothing can attack them and they cant attack out. This is on perfectly flat ground too..so there should be no issue with line of sight...The best we can hope for is to have the development team lower the spawn rate to like every half hour or so... I mean we do have six instances... I think anyway that is what I see coming on kashykk anyway because it is no longer an enlarged theme park for fun... just jedi grinders that feel the need to go from novice padawan to a full template one in two days... Yes it can be done. I've seen it done personally... Just hope for a lower spawn rate and this situation will be taken care of more so. but its to the point where 50+ glowsticks running every which way on kashykk is just plain sickening and no star wars to it.

-Doece Yeager

Tarquinas

MBH/MC/CM

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IamCadan wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how the new jedi "exploit" /duel;/enduel is suppose to work.... Even using a targeting macro shouldn't call you up on it other than if they're specifically using your name in the macro.

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Camelz wrote:

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Saruun_Mortuus wrote:
Actually Caelrie has been very against Jedi exploiters in every post I've seen her make about the topic, in fact, its the only thing I agree w/ her on...

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Actually Caelrie's troll head hasn't been working for a while now. I have agreed with quite a few of her posts recently (not all tho lol). She is one of the few Jedi on the boards these days that understands how the Jedi/BH relationship is supposed to work, I just think she doesn't like BHs particularly, but I dont have a problem with that. She knows when we kill a low level padi, it's not griefing it is game mechanics adding to the difficulty level of the Padis grind. She agrees that exploiters should be dealt with.

Kudos to any Jedi whounderstands why the devs put Jedi bounty's on the terms.

p.s. Sorry, I dont agree with your elitist comments on PvP and GCW though, Caelrie.

That is the second time I have said nice things about Caelrie, I must have some sort of complex going on. /visit therapist

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Troll is to easily thrown around, just because someone does not agree with you does not make them a troll. A troll is one that only sees one side of the argument, or argues every point valid or not.

For example, I see many post here complaining about "Jedi"(you would think after reading posts in the BH forum that there is one player controlling them all, and he never stops cheating) exploiting LOS issues on kash, however I have seen many a post saying to get down to the jedi grinding spot, just use burst run and LOS to get down. I find it very ironic that someone complaining about an exploit would in the next breath tell someone to use it.

Of course this goes the other way as well, all "BH"(one other person controls all the BH's, he hates jedi because he is Jelous and griefs all Jedi, while complaining about everything the "Jedi" does) camp houses, join groups to catch you unaware, use Duel bug..etc

What needs to be implemented is a "reward" for the Jedi to fight. Now a Jedi gains nothing but more visability and more BH's for fighting, so why would they fight. Unless the Jedi thinks he/she has a reasonable chance of winning they will run. Given the penalty for losing, there is not one person who plays the game could honestly say they would not do whatever they could to get away(some will even exploit). However if the jedi gained something for fighting many of these posts would go away. What I propose is not an end to XP loss, that is in place to keep the jedi from coasting to master. The reward would be after being killed by a BH, they would be removed from the terms for some period of time 12hr/24 hours, so the jedi after being killed would be free to do whatever they wanted in the game for a short period of time without worrying about a BH attack. BH are happy because the Jedi actually engage instead of running for home, Jedi are happy because even though they got killed, they know they dont have to worry about a BH until tomorrow.

Anyway I am sure someone will call me a Jedi troll for this post...LOL

Message Edited by diepa on 06-17-2005 07:52 AM

Simple fix: disable all XP on Kash

Would more or less be sweeping the problem under the rug, but we know how SOE loves to do that.

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Caelrie wrote:

What the heck is wrong with the CSRs? Hello, CSRs????? The jedi down there are exploiting the line-of-sight issues to be invulnerable to both PvE and PvP.

You're supposed to ban exploiters.

It would be SOOOOOOOOOOO easy to catch these people in the act. BAN THEM! We don't want exploiters playing Jedi anyway!

Message Edited by Caelrie on 06-16-2005 08:16 PM

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I dont seem to rember any of you BH saying a word about xploiting this when its you doing the killing. Attacking the jedi getting close to death then running up in one of the blind spots to completly heal then reengage the jedi. This duel thing is new but are you that stupid to not know about the trade option, it does the same stupid thing and has been around forever.

The duel thing was put in because of YOU xploiting the duel feature.Are you all so dense not to even rember how YOU used that? OMG its like you just want all jedi to just lay down on the ground so you can hunt them. But heck you would whine then because you would have to go track them. This should have never been put into the game it leads to too much griefing and xploiting on both sides.

One last thought, have you ever thought the more you whine the more you will hurt your prof in the long run? With the changes comeing to the terms it wouldnt take much to hurt you abit more. The reason the terms are being changed is because YOU are useing the system to grief other players. SO when it hits you have nobody to blame but yourselfs.

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Caelrie wrote:

What the heck is wrong with the CSRs? Hello, CSRs????? The jedi down there are exploiting the line-of-sight issues to be invulnerable to both PvE and PvP.

You're supposed to ban exploiters.

It would be SOOOOOOOOOOO easy to catch these people in the act. BAN THEM! We don't want exploiters playing Jedi anyway!

Message Edited by Caelrie on 06-16-2005 08:16 PM

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I dont seem to rember any of you BH saying a word about xploiting this when its you doing the killing. Attacking the jedi getting close to death then running up in one of the blind spots to completly heal then reengage the jedi. This duel thing is new but are you that stupid to not know about the trade option, it does the same stupid thing and has been around forever.

The duel thing was put in because of YOU xploiting the duel feature.Are you all so dense not to even rember how YOU used that? OMG its like you just want all jedi to just lay down on the ground so you can hunt them. But heck you would whine then because you would have to go track them. This should have never been put into the game it leads to too much griefing and xploiting on both sides.

One last thought, have you ever thought the more you whine the more you will hurt your prof in the long run? With the changes comeing to the terms it wouldnt take much to hurt you abit more. The reason the terms are being changed is because YOU are useing the system to grief other players. SO when it hits you have nobody to blame but yourselfs.

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Saruun_Mortuus wrote:
I believe those SS have a good example of the Jedi's little trick to find out if you have a mission on them. The new /duel /endduel tactic. (I wouldn't have posted the method on this one, except it's already everywhere...)

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diepa wrote:

For example, I see many post here complaining about "Jedi"(you would think after reading posts in the BH forum that there is one player controlling them all, and he never stops cheating) exploiting LOS issues on kash, however I have seen many a post saying to get down to the jedi grinding spot, just use burst run and LOS to get down. I find it very ironic that someone complaining about an exploit would in the next breath tell someone to use it.

Message Edited by diepa on 06-17-200507:52 AM

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