Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Drive on through nothing to see here.
darkrelease wrote:
So after watching this video I have a question, plain and simple:
Why are so many people calling for nerfs of mdef? From this video they are a joke.
That jedi was a joke, it looked like he didnt know what to do, one min fighting then running then fighting again. he probley just finished grinding and has never pvped outside of a large group
Calel_Haven wrote:
Thassk wrote:
NERF! JEDI!!!!
Message Edited by Calel_Haven on 10-06-2005 04:23 AM
fixed ... and i will offer the same advice i offered the other baby who cried for nerf in this thread ...
go crawl into a hole and chew your feet off
lol. And you're one that needs time with the shrink
Nerf Jedi? Did we just watch the same video, or do you know something the rest of us dont?
Time to become MBH/CM = 2 weeks Max
Time to become Jedi Padanoob = 1 Year.
Do the maths Mr nice.
Message Edited by Calel_Haven on 10-06-2005 04:38 AM
ive been playing OVER a year .. what you gonna say now?
i have proly killed more high end mobs and more mobs in general as a guild leader trying to help mynew low level players grindthan 2 jedis combined .. if i go by jedi logic i should be UBER and given more power too ...
dont give me that " waaah i played for one year and traded in XP to be a jedi so i should be UBER with an "i win" button crap
and dont tell me jedi run the risk of being hunted and that should make em uber ... try playing a NON jedi as a main toonand dealing with jedi trash talking 24/7 and people logging onto their jedi when they want to challenge you to duels cuz theydont wanna fight a fairfight with their ranged alts ...and trying to live in the SWG world as a non jedi .. and youll see what discrimination is all about ....
as for the video i didnt bother watching it .. if the dude is exploiting thats another issue alltoegther ...... but just cuz hemight haveused an exploit ( as you say) has NOTHING to do with CM being overpowered .. .. become a BH and hunt and see how sucessfull you are at it ...
but if you dont like PVP dont gain vis with your jedi .. if you dont like the game mechanics and play experience as a jedi dont play as one .. but dont cry and call for nerfs and have every other God damned proffession ruined cuz as a jedi you think you should be UBER and untouchable ...
asking for garbage like that will only ruin the game ..
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-06-2005 06:08 PM
Thassk wrote:
who ever said "WE" are holding it up as an instructional video? guy posted his vid .. few people agreed or comending him for posting it, some didnt agree.. then the jedi came in and called "NERF"
as for your BULLCRAP ... TOTAL BULLCRAP in regards to cm ...my answer to you is ... grab some super glue line the sides of your fingers together and make the VULCAN peace symbol till the glue dries .. this will limit your ability to type and hopefully keep you locked into typing only construction posts which are important instead of trying to destroy every proffession in the game by crying for nerfs so that jedi are the only ones left worth playing ...
lets not forget this simplefact about the CU.. JEDI WERE DESIGNED TO FIGHTOFF UP TO 5 BH AT A TIME ... now they only have to fight one ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-06-2005 05:05 AM
you seem like a very angry young man for some reason. Let me counter your first statement by quoting the OP "Just a quick video to show all the MBH/MCM's how to take down defenders." So yeah he stated it was a video on how to take down a MDEF.
Secondly, saying it's bullcrap and that's it is not a counter argument to what I said. Simple fact is that M DOC buffs were a 40 point speed initially, CM debuffs were also a 40 point speed. Doc buffs were changed because people were saying they were overpowered, CM debuffs remained the same. So I tell you why people are upset and you seem to just get more angry. I know I am wasting my time posting this as you have no intention of looking at this from any viewpoint but your own. But hopefully others will see the sense in what I am saying here.
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 05:16 AM
darkrelease wrote:
You miss my point entirely, let me start off by saying I am playing Devil's Advocate. I as a general rule tend to read both sides of the argument and try to find a mediation point. It's what I do in RL and as a result I find it hard not to do here on the boards. If you read my history of posts you will see that I am actually one of the few asking the devs to ignore the Jedi and the BH's for a while and focus on the classes that don't get much attention, but that is an argument for another time. I simply stated that this is the reason that most see CM as overpowered, they don't know how to state it so I did it for them. I agree with you that the ways to overcome it is through speed tapes (however from my understanding Lightsaber speed tapes are not working right now). I would in addition make an argument for a craftable speed food buff for Chefs that would help those not capable of buying those overly priced tapes (this would hold true for any PVP situation). I am not here trying to insult you or start a blind argument, rather I would like to see people work together to find a common solution to these problems, after all, we all play a game like this for the social interaction of it and it would be rather annoying to see people leave the game to the point that it is closed down. Also I would like to say to you that if the Jedi were all to dissapear what countent would that leave us with? Think about it.
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 05:16 AM
VegitoSS wrote:
Just a quick video to show all the MBH/MCM's how to take down defenders. Mind is your only stat you should be focused on. Keep the debuffs on and make them healheal heal. When they run out of mind they are screwed like the guy in the video. Always keep a kinetic weapon handy for PSG users.
Hope this helps.
Click for Video
He was healing his droid. It was destroyed at some point and he healed it with the bacta spray. Its why it was blowing up like that.
Looked like a long battle to me...
In the end its like this... JEDI have found their match.
darkrelease wrote:
Just one more thing about your 5 on 1 argument. That may have been true pre cu but lately I'm noticing that it is becoming less and less true. IF a jedi ever finds himself facing 2 BH's now he is in a lot of trouble, I have yet to see a jedi survive such an encounter. Let's face it, as has been stated on these very boards time and time again, the BH/Jedi dynamic has never been more even then it is now. A BH with the proper tactics and tools has a very good chance of taking down a Jedi in a 1 vs 1 fight. One thing I've noticed is that very few BH's that have multiple kills find themselves complaining about the power of the jedi and with the latest change to the cloak ability (which I fully agree with by the way) I think you will find yourself in more fights then before where a victor will be determined. I don't think the 5 on 1 argument holds true at this time, but we will see if that changes when they turn FRS back on and these full temp paddies start reaching Knight status.
we arent talking about anything else but NERFS, lets not try to dress the argument with bullcrap
.. theres no need for them ( nerfs ).. no matter how you articulate your "position"you are repeating the same CRAPwhich has absolutely no effect on PVP,if you develope the simple skills needed to negate them ... the call to nerfs is nothing more than lazy players who dont want to learn PVP mechanics and expect template power alone to present them a win ...
the 5 on 1 argument IS true .. in that it was fact ... the jedi template was built and designed at a time when BH could gank them .. theres no two ways about it .. its as simple as that ...
if your going to bring up the past to structure an argument for nerfing CM .. it should be known the same logic can be applied to the current jedi template .. and even MORE SO .. because where as your theory is matter of opinion .. my theory regarding jedi vs gank squadswas actualy history
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 05:17 AM