Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Petition for /kickindoor ability at Master BH
OberonMyx wrote:
WOuldn't that be awesome? Ah, a guy can dream, can't he?
JoBoFedderish wrote:
Would we have to announce "avon calling"?
Ding-Ding
Land Shark.
What?
Land Shark.
Go away!
Ding-Ding
Delivery.
Oh ok... Ahhhh!
hehe I like it.
Will it happen... oh heck no.
JoBoFedderish wrote:
No if the jedi is already hiding then no tef can be applied unless he is careless. If they are inside a private structure the BH is SOL.
Thus theTEF was nerfed.. It used to be the case (as most non-respec BH would know) that a TEF would only be gained by the Jedi if they attack back - This allowed a Jeeeerdi to hide in a public building. But back then, the system was much better - and BH had to actually stalk a mark.
I logged in to check on my runner. I couldn't believe it, the guy packed up his house
and moved. I wasn't serving an eviction notice, just looking to make some money.
vanshamus wrote:
Ummm yes they can. Each state is different and some may regulate their actions more then others. Plus there are standing S.O.P's that may also limit their actions as to when they can not enter a residence. Here in FL they can enter the primary residence of the fugitive even if that means removing the door in the process. As to second and third party homes, I am not sure.
The defendant who skips on his bond can be tracked and subdued anywhere in the United States. At the time he is bailed out by the bail bondsman, he signs away some of his rights which include the right of re-arrest by the bondsman. It is also established by common law that the bondsman can appoint an agent to perform such a re-arrest. The authority under which the bounty hunter and/or bail bondsman operate has been set by case last in the United States. The highest authority under which the bounty hunter operates is from a 1872 Supreme Court decision called Taylor Vs. Taintor. The case states:
(The bondsman or bounty hunter) Whenever they choose to do so may seize him (the fugitive) and deliver him up in their discharge; and if this cannot be done at once may imprison him until it can be done. They may pursue him to another state; may arrest him on the sabbath, and, if necessary, may break and enter his house for that purpose. The seizure is not made by virtue of process. None is needed. It is likened to the arrest by the sheriff of an escaping prisoner.
Message Edited by vanshamus on 09-26-2005 10:08 PM
I believe this is countered by the person having their house broken into being able to legally shoot the BH who is in the process of breaking in. And I dont think many states have laws like this. Its far to invasive by a profession that doesn't have to have any real law enforcement training. To much potential for mistakes and suffering on both sides.
Cendoth wrote:
vanshamus wrote:
Ummm yes they can. Each state is different and some may regulate their actions more then others. Plus there are standing S.O.P's that may also limit their actions as to when they can not enter a residence. Here in FL they can enter the primary residence of the fugitive even if that means removing the door in the process. As to second and third party homes, I am not sure.
The defendant who skips on his bond can be tracked and subdued anywhere in the United States. At the time he is bailed out by the bail bondsman, he signs away some of his rights which include the right of re-arrest by the bondsman. It is also established by common law that the bondsman can appoint an agent to perform such a re-arrest. The authority under which the bounty hunter and/or bail bondsman operate has been set by case last in the United States. The highest authority under which the bounty hunter operates is from a 1872 Supreme Court decision called Taylor Vs. Taintor. The case states:
(The bondsman or bounty hunter) Whenever they choose to do so may seize him (the fugitive) and deliver him up in their discharge; and if this cannot be done at once may imprison him until it can be done. They may pursue him to another state; may arrest him on the sabbath, and, if necessary, may break and enter his house for that purpose. The seizure is not made by virtue of process. None is needed. It is likened to the arrest by the sheriff of an escaping prisoner.
Message Edited by vanshamus on 09-26-2005 10:08 PM
I believe this is countered by the person having their house broken into being able to legally shoot the BH who is in the process of breaking in. And I dont think many states have laws like this. Its far to invasive by a profession that doesn't have to have any real law enforcement training. To much potential for mistakes and suffering on both sides.
One would think if you're on the run from friggin' bounty hunters you're already in enough trouble that shooting someone isn't going to hurt much.
Parnakido wrote:
Sounds great...As long as a Bh is attackable as soon as pulls the mission.
/nod
vanshamus wrote:
Ummm yes they can. Each state is different and some may regulate their actions more then others. Plus there are standing S.O.P's that may also limit their actions as to when they can not enter a residence. Here in FL they can enter the primary residence of the fugitive even if that means removing the door in the process. As to second and third party homes, I am not sure.
The defendant who skips on his bond can be tracked and subdued anywhere in the United States. At the time he is bailed out by the bail bondsman, he signs away some of his rights which include the right of re-arrest by the bondsman. It is also established by common law that the bondsman can appoint an agent to perform such a re-arrest. The authority under which the bounty hunter and/or bail bondsman operate has been set by case last in the United States. The highest authority under which the bounty hunter operates is from a 1872 Supreme Court decision called Taylor Vs. Taintor. The case states:
(The bondsman or bounty hunter) Whenever they choose to do so may seize him (the fugitive) and deliver him up in their discharge; and if this cannot be done at once may imprison him until it can be done. They may pursue him to another state; may arrest him on the sabbath, and, if necessary, may break and enter his house for that purpose. The seizure is not made by virtue of process. None is needed. It is likened to the arrest by the sheriff of an escaping prisoner.
Message Edited by vanshamus on 09-26-2005 10:08 PM
even if it is as you say and it's state based, technicaly a player city could be considered a state and hence the bh would have to work around those rules so if that city allows the bh to /kickindoor then cool but if not then you are screwd.... then again even if there city allowd it there would be other ways to counter it...
ban the player from the house
ban his entire guild
cityban
want to add a move that will allow you to go into my house then give the player to be able to get a house security npc's that will spawn the moment this happens, it's my town.. i'm militia and hence would have the city guards/police and militia guarding and protecting me.
won't let me use html sniff sniff
JoBoFedderish wrote:
Would we have to announce "avon calling"?
Candygram
(Showing my age with this one)