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Thread: MBH NPC Boss Marks... Did they get tougher??
Atobe wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
LOL. I'd like to know the reasoning for this. Most of the time the NPC will be doing energy damage. The only thing that I can think of is that you're worrying about armor decay. A good BH has every single piece of armor ADK'd.
DaniB wrote:
a "good" bounty hunter would actually use composite armor and a good psg on npc missions...
OhBuggah wrote:
sometimes the boss marks use kinetic weapons, thus why you get "rocked" sometimes ... as I assume you are using recon armor like any good BH would use.
ShebaTk wrote:
I was doing boss morks before pub 22 np. But now they seem super tough. Took me like 20 min to kill 1 he was regenerating health almost the same rate i was dealin damage. I have a 811 DPS heavy lightning rifle.
Plus it seems more and more missons are bugged where the mark is stuck in a tree or building.
Armor-schmarmor. I don't need no steenking armor.
I take on boss NPCs unarmored. With a decent PSG, medic skills, healing efficiency clothes and a med droid, I can keep up with 95% of the boss NPCs, let alonethe elites. (It's that other 5% I have to slip into the armor for.)
. I prefer to not have to heal as much as you would by wearing no armor as I'm sure those mind regen foods come really handy as you are spamming heals. Or does your "healing" droid do all the work for you and can keep up with the heals, right? Message Edited by joejccva on 08-29-2005 01:49 PM
heya...about the 800+ dps...
if the stats state that your speed is less than 1 second, then it really isn't. the HARD cap on damage is at 1 second - even if you have a modifier that supposedly drops it below 1 second. HOWEVER, the dps and mod'd dps is done with a simple equation taking your average damage and speed into account - but it doesn't limit the speed to 1 sec.
so your gun might state it has a 800 dps, but unless your average damage is 800 (which it could be if you have a 600-1000 damage gun) and your mod'd speed is 1sec or lower (which i guess is possible) then you can't have a dps of 800.
i can get one of my guns over 900 dps with a speed powerup - but then i realized that it dropped my mod'd speed toless than .8 seconds. i talked to a couple WS friends of mine, did some testing, and realized that the mod'd dps stat was incorrect because my gun was hard capped at 1second speed.
if you could list the stats of the clicky, i'd be interested in knowing the stats. imagedump is now blocked from my office as an offensive website.
by the way - this post wasn't to flame or take sides...only to educate and inform.
AND...if someone thinks i'm wrong, let me know.
Message Edited by Greeleaf on 08-29-2005 01:52 PM
ShebaTk wrote:
Clicky
check it out
Message Edited by ShebaTk on 08-28-2005 11:57 PM
What about the -29 accuracy mod? Could it be you can't hit him? I always see people talking about DPS, SAC, MIN/MAX, but nobody takes into account the accuracy mods- opinions?
-DrJo
joejccva wrote:
There wasn't any hositility. I was only giving you a hard time.
im a noob at this though.
but any coment on my scatter
speed 2.04
mod speed 1.27
damage 321-905 (too low)
wounds 30.69%
base dpc 300
and whit pup, sac 47
i can spam specials all i want!
ocili wrote:As someone already pointed at, even though you gun stats claim to be doing 811 DPS, your not actually doing that. Weapon speed is capped at 1.0, so you can't be any faster then that. Plus, have you noticed that when using your specials, you can't actually fire 1 shot per second? Even using like /rangedshot, your special timer cooldown and you being able to spam another special is longer then 1 second.
Only Jedi (go figure), have proved they can do 1 special/second, and that is even when only doing certain moves right after one another....
So unless you have like +25 gun speed, +25 grs, speed pup, speed buff, etc, its not accurate.
Besides, what SAC is your weapon? Is your action dieing before they do?
jedi cant do that anymore. they could when it was posible whit doc speed buff and imp force speed. my jedi cant do it anymore anyway and he is mls
Message Edited by Craxus on 08-29-2005 02:46 PM
Highlander36 wrote:i can solo damn kyrats the cl 84's ones so explain that any one
It's easily explained. Krayts don't have ranged attacks.
Zeddd
Atobe wrote:
joejccva wrote:
Atobe wrote:
Armor-schmarmor. I don't need no steenking armor.
I take on boss NPCs unarmored. With a decent PSG, medic skills, healing efficiency clothes and a med droid, I can keep up with 95% of the boss NPCs, let alonethe elites. (It's that other 5% I have to slip into the armor for.
I wear the same armor to hunt boss marks as I do to hunt jedi, ADK'd of course. I guess I'm too lazy to take off the armor while fighting boss marks to see how L33T I am, as you are right?
Message Edited by joejccva on 08-29-200501:49 PM
Did something I say give offense? Because from the tone of what you've written, it certainly seems that way. In case the emoticons didn't get displayed, I hope you know what I said was in jest. I certainly realize not everyone has the same tactics, nor should they. I was not trying to sound like my MBH/MR character is some sort of NPC killing machine. (I will not use "elite speak" except in derogatory terms.)
It's just my playstyle not to wear armor unless absolutely necessary. (Besides which, I can't afford the millions of credits for the ADKs.) And with a hotkeyed macro to equip and unequip clothes, armor and weapons, it isn't like it's a lot of work to change from one setup to another on the fly, even in the middle of combat if needs be (yeah, a few combat rounds are lost if you do, but typically if I find I need armor, I'll disengage and come back when more appropriately equipped).
And what's so bad about using mind regen foods, like spiced tea? Or downing some Thundercloud for ranged defense? Or synthsteak for toughness? Either I get done with the mark soon enough that they're still active (if I get lucky on planet and mark location), or if it takes a while (either because he's tough, or using a good weapon, or he's 6Km out in the middle of Dath, Yavin or Endor) by the time I get back to the mission terminal my tummy is empty and I can pop some more when I meet up with the next mark.
Really, I just don't see wherethe verbal hostilty about this coming from.
As someone already pointed at, even though you gun stats claim to be doing 811 DPS, your not actually doing that. Weapon speed is capped at 1.0, so you can't be any faster then that. Plus, have you noticed that when using your specials, you can't actually fire 1 shot per second? Even using like /rangedshot, your special timer cooldown and you being able to spam another special is longer then 1 second.
Only Jedi (go figure), have proved they can do 1 special/second, and that is even when only doing certain moves right after one another....
So unless you have like +25 gun speed, +25 grs, speed pup, speed buff, etc, its not accurate.
Besides, what SAC is your weapon? Is your action dieing before they do?