Bounty Hunter Archive

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DTQ wrote:

10's of millions ooh scary, Tell you what though, I would even suggest teh jedi get to salvage a ADK if he has one on the sabre. Although I doubt all would be so charitable.

Ive spent 12 million on knucklers, my 25 mil armour has lost 1/9 of its condition in one days hard content hunting. Credits in this game come easy, plenty of Jedi out there seem to find 100's of millions on ca's and flawless pearls etc. They have a free alt, with which they can make plenty of credits.

Over saturday \ sunday Ive used up 5 mil of equipment as consumables exclusing foods, no deaths just normal content. Why should Jedi be alone in not losing their good equipment. The whole idea of this is to discourage Jedi getting visibility.

The only Jedi who lose out will be those who are indescreet. Dont many Jedi have a couple of light sabres? Too many Jedi are far to arrogant, and duel with impunity in public places, this would be a big discouragement to such behaviour. If you cant behave with it the bounty hunters get to take it away. If you play smart you have no risk.

I dont think it would be long till the jedi started carrying cheapo sabres with them for regular use.

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The difference is were being forced into it we accidentaly get vis from bugged spawn etc whilst you have an option to chose whether to hunt or not

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Slayer-Titan wrote:

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DTQ wrote:

On to somehting more practical but still could be fun. I see no reason why when you kill a jedi you can't loot a replica of his saber off of his corpse for display in a house or whereever kinda of liike UOs ears, but heres the question what happens if a jedi wins. Does the bh loose something aswell. I think the most starwars woudl be a cyborgnetic arm that cost the price fo the jedi's mission to remove. Thus risk vs reward you could gain 226k or you coudl loose it.

That sounds great to me if the BH loses fit him with a handicapped Cyborg arm he has to pay to remove, maybe -10 ranged accuracy or something

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yeah...10k to remove the arm...75Million to replace the saber...the fake saber sounds good thou

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also the average bounty hunter loses more than he wins against Jedi , I think most good jedi would have more arms than good BH would have sabres.

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DTQ wrote:

OK Im gonna get flamed for this one, but heres an idea I've came up with for a new Jedi discouragement \ BH incentive.

First of all get the pearls dropping again, maybe from something on mustafa so dangerous that 8 jedi are required to kill it, and then its not easy.

Second give them different robes with different effects.

Third give them somewhere to hunt out of the way of the rest of the game population where they dont get visibility.

Fourth SABRE LOOT, anyone killing a jedi in PVP, BH or otherwise gets the to loot the jedis sabre - it will of course be "broken" and pearls are unretrievable, so no one can profit, but you get a nice trophy for the effort. MY theory goes that less jedi will be out getting visibility if their glow sticks gonna get conviscated for their actions.

Fifth if the above alone doesnt end duelling at starports, and reduce jedi visibility, bring in starport sabre TEF any Jedi iwith a ignited LS within 300m of a starport is instantly attackable by any bh in the neighbourhood.

I for one would love a collection of Jedi light sabres for display.

I think there would be a lot less full template uber sabres getting visibility.

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Gohma_Manovich wrote:

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DTQ wrote:

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Qwad wrote:

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Fugitron wrote:
No matter what you say to him he won't listen, he has made up his mind. He keeps throwing his post back into your face even tho MANY times over people have pointed out the flaws and the complete IMbalance it has.

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I know but I'm grinding right now and I have nothing better to do than post.

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So many times people have thrown up their sabre cost from 30m to 110m, and so many times its been explained that under the idea Pearls drop again so Jedi can replace these sabres WITHOUT SPENDING THIS MONEY,

You are crying over a loss, anyone remember tusken robes trading for millions? and now they are given away, it would be the same again not game breaking.

Anyway dont like the suggestio0ns go cry on your jedi forums, it aint gonna happen,

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1. Saber changes from what pearls people got


2. You dont spend money but pearls have a monetary value


3. If your idea was introduced there would be no way enough of pearls dropping to supply people, prices would sky rocket because the demand would be so high


4. Stop ignoring peoples arguments


5. We play this game to have fun not hide, if people want to play the game as a jedi dont penalise them for it face it if jedi didnt exist in SWG, this game would be bust
   

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1)Sorry dont understand what you mean

2)they do, but that value would drop under the suggestion of making them drop etc, I have at no time suggested the drop ratios making this a nerf

3) purely down to Drop ratios if the "dropper" was spawnable in nests from mission terminals and every one dropped a flawless pearl your pearls would be worth nothing, its all about getting the ratios balanced

4) sorry I have lots of people intent on flaming me here, I have RL stufff to deal with including getting my kids to bed, and havent go time to answer everything, and frankly not everyones posts are worthy of serious time or attention, please note your post has recevied a proper response.

5) yet the game was designed for Jedi to be hunted and rare not for jedi to BE the GCW or the most visible element of the game, the game IS broken in that respect. I for one signed up for this game when the jedi were still only seen by a friend of a friend, A lot has improved over that time, but the jedi population is not as orginally intended.

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Ewockman wrote:

Your armor costs 25 mil huh?

1 PREMIUM PEARL COSTS 25 MIL MORON!!!!!

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Moron?

Under this idea if you read the orginal postthe flawless pearls would trade for 1 mil, read again about the plan to reintroduce pearl drops in jedi only areas, if pearls were dropping prices would be nothing like they are now, and you could actually go and get them yourself instead of buying them. You are taking 1 point of a 4/5 point plan and saying its unbalanced - OF COURSE IT IS, BECAUSE THE REST OF THE STUFF IS DESIGNED TO BALANCE THE ONE NEGATIVE POINT.

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ArMaGOD wrote:

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DTQ wrote:

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FunkaliciousFrk wrote:

If you can take my saber if you win, making me spend millions and weeks to make a new saber, I want your head, and your bank account

fairs fair

don't post anymore, you're retarded

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/yawn cant be arsed to make the same points again read the whole topic before posting you flames

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just curious do you think jedi would actually play the game if this were implimented? Or would tehy quit bc of it.


and if you think option 2, is that what you wanted or a unwanted side effect?

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DTQ wrote:

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ArMaGOD wrote:

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DTQ wrote:

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FunkaliciousFrk wrote:

If you can take my saber if you win, making me spend millions and weeks to make a new saber, I want your head, and your bank account

fairs fair

don't post anymore, you're retarded

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/yawn cant be arsed to make the same points again read the whole topic before posting you flames

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just curious do you think jedi would actually play the game if this were implimented? Or would tehy quit bc of it.


and if you think option 2, is that what you wanted or a unwanted side effect?

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I designed the 4 Point plan so as to NOT nerf the Jedi, the idea is that they get their pearl drops and so are able to replace their sabres with a bit of work. With pearls dropping at the right rates it would be not necesarily be any worse than current xp loss except full templates are hit as hard as Padawans from death - to counter balance that everyone gets a pre-cu type sabre.

Show me the Jedi who doesnt want flawless pearls, Jedi only Content, and High level Content hard enough to challenge Jedi players properly?

If you look at one section of a suggestion in isolation it will be unbalanced, but the positive points were there to balance the sabre idea.

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Newb at the internet , I was using the internet BEFORE mosaic When DOS based interfaces were all we had, I designed website's BEFORE coca-cola had one, I used BBS when modems were devices you hung your telephones handset on Go on Newb me again I was running AS400 servers in the days of 8" floppy disks - Im an IT Manager by profession and have been since the days of dos based NOVEL networks. I was writing 3d game engines in the days before 16 bit home computers were available. I wrote my own operating systems with AI and self healing at the same time. I quit programming about the same time as people stopped using machine code, and went into management \ support instead. Better money less effort.

Right to answer the most common points:-

Registration Date, yes with this account I first started using the forums not very long ago to sell BH loot, This however is NOT my first account, My current posting name is an abreviation of my old name a long time ago.I was Muloki on Corbantis and handing out free clothes to anyone in newbie clothes. YES I was here for the days of the medic centre social scene, for the shooting through hills, I was an artisan who could wear armour. I left the game for a while as I only had one computer capable of playing the game, and the game was taking me away from my wife too much, now I have to computers running hte game and I play the game WITH my wife. Yes we both have NEWBIE accounts, hey guess what her forum registration will be even later than mine. Unfortunately I could never get a response from SOE And hence couldnt recover my old account which is a shame I was quite fond of my old muloki character. First thing I did was grind my way back to my old template, to realise that post cu it didnt work at all, I went back at the game trying to play the way things were a long time ago and realising as I went that the game had underwent huge changes, I played to meet the new way of things. no complaints I actually liked a lot of the changes.

NERF

Lots of people are looking at one point of the four and saying NERF well HELL YES,it would be a nerf if one point alone was taken in isolation.

Now lets list the "NERFs" for those who havent read the whole thread andfor those who have and failed to comprehend them.

1) Premium and Flawless pearl Equivalentsdropping again, NOT from Kraytsbut from some new MOB in a Visibility free JEDI paradise where jedi can grind and farm WITHOUT gaining visibility, Yes the MOBS would be tough enough to FORCE jedi grouping, but the drop\ tuningrate would be sufficient to make this very worthwhile

Now with all these points TOGETHER not one in isolation How exactly is this a JEDI Nerf? It makes life more difficult for the BH INCREASING his chances of failure, INCREASING his costs of mission failure, his pay off TROPHIES This My dim witted Jedi friends IS NOT A NERF on JEDI this is not RISK without REWARDs. THIS DOES NOT prohibit Jedi interaction in the normal world, it hopes to tempt JEDI away from starports and bol fests, it hopes to limit sabre waving at starports, and gives the JEDI something REAL for Jedi to do with their uber powers.

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Fugitron wrote:

Maybe I can help ya out, becuase this suggestion effects jedi more than BHs - that is why you are getting more jedi feedback.... lets take pros and cons of each of your ideas (if I forget one I will edit and add it in)

1. The loss of the Lightsaber. PRO: Gives the BH a reward on top of money for killing his mark. CON: Jedi loses his saber, pearls and ADK on saber if it had one. (just going by the original post).

Answered in previous post read that they get their ADK back their pearls are a replacement loss for the current xp system which unfairly targets grinding jedi not full templates

2. Premium and Flawless pearls dropping from creatures needing 8 jedi to take down. PRO: Prems and flawlesses would again be back in the game. CONS: For the jedi who lost their saber they would have no way to kill the creatures. They would most likely have to BUY them from Jedi who spend all day everyday harvesting them for profit. Which would then turn it into a monopoly situation.

Plan ahead thats like a bh crying because he lost his armour and can no longer fight marks, get your back up sabre BEFORE you get yourself on the terms, If you dont you ARE dumb and you deserve what you get, perhaps a fellow jedi will help you out or you can buy some pearls at the hugely deflated prices they wouls then be going for Cons - only for the trully stupid

3. Jedi Paradise. PRO: A land of no vis and premium pearls. Only accessable by jedi? CON: Would isolate jedi who are grinding to there and only there (and maybe full temps as well). Also BHs would gripe that their mark is always in "paradise." They indeed "could" emerge from the paradise, but it would be a double edge sword. Who wants to go through the trouble of getting/losing the pearls again. Not to mention this is almost forcing jedi to a certain style of gameplay.

No because they have the otpion of visible grinding as at present they have lost NOTHING and can grind in peace if they have the choice, Introducing an option DOES NOT enforce use of that option, not I have added nothing to the visibility or called for cloak nerfs or anything else This gives jedi a NEW OPTION and takes away nothing they can do at the moment Pros only here im afraid.

If I missed anything let me know, but for the most part I think these are the main points. Also, on a side note the risk vs rewards would not be up to par. Judging by #2 the jedi would lost alot more than a BH would come a loss, and you also have to remember people just want to play the game - not all jedi want to PvP. There are things in the game that will give vis and players who go out of their way to give them vis. Its UNAVOIDABLE.

My suggestion would be if BHs want more fights then take away all xp loss, that way there would be less flaming cause now the risk vs reward is balanced.

Yet Under my plan not only is it possible the sabre can be replaced the same as xp, even before hand, I also give the jedi a shed load of goodies and far more ability to kill a BH with a pre CU sabre and that DOESNT lower the risk end, whilst also increasing the reward end with the trophy and BH grief? Sorry I think you would find this changes things IN FAVOUR of the jedi

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