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Thread: Why on earth don't we get some kind of armor break?
P__Day wrote:
I can be a jedi and have a root, i can be a jedi and not have armorbreak, i can be a jedi and not have healing, its choices, you can pick up enough melee to get an armor break. Jedi is a ranged/melee hybrid where you choose roughtly 2.5 out of 5.0 skilltree's depending on how you dabble.
For instance i can only armor break you if you are within 5m melee range, i can spent 20 sp to get a 32m ranged attack with my saber but i lose 20 points i could spend somewhere else.
The reason for not giving ranged an armor break is that a commando using a flamethrower would be able to area armor break then area root which would be extremely unbalanced.
Its fully possible ot go m.bh/m.rifleman and get 0-0-4-0 brawler for the armor break, you would lose something like healing, but thats the type of choice a jedi has to take.
Message Edited by P__Day on 07-12-2005 07:07 AM
Not really, Jedi can armor break and heal just fine. They can force heal and then complement it with stims. Melee can armor break and get CM healing. Ranged can get CM healing but can't armor break. No real decisions to be made. Almost every melee and Jedi I have encountered has great healing abilities and also has the armor break skill. It is known that armor break is overpowered as is so I think a nerf isn't far off in the future. I mean really as it is a Jedi or melee with armor break can deal aroun 1100-1300 damage per hit, even if you can heal you are pretty much toast.
TheVeryBadDay wrote:
Amsterdoom wrote:
jedi=melee asking for a armourbreak as ranged is like asking for a root as a melee person
TheVeryBadDay wrote:
Ok, so melee fighters have armor break, Jedi have armor break yet of all the ranged professions, none has that ability.
Since we're now forced to have MBH to hunt Jedi, how about making that master box a little more rewarding? Like adding a special armor break shot? If they don't want MBH to become a part of every ranged FOTM, fine, make that AB effective against Jedi armor only.
Like force suppression?
Not a root. An dis not a melee special (works upto 32m). Sorry, no "I win" button for you.
Isn't there a new kind of slice for smugglers? Forgot what it was called, but it resists armor break. From the sounds of it on the smuggler forums, it works wonders on armor break. And you don't need to use any skill points to get it either.
Yukmot wrote:
...... Armor break is overpowered, face it man. If it hits it always takes effect, no chance for failure.
Yukmot wrote:
Damian-j wrote:
Are we gonna go over this same question again?
EVERY person has access to Armourbreak, go pick up xx4x Brawler and you can have it.
Just because your template doesn't have AB ability doesn't mean it should be added just to benfit you.
My Jedi template doesn't have cloak, or AI, or Aura, you don't see me asking for them to be added to my template do you??
We don't have access to armor break and healing. Healing is a MUST in this game now, unfortunate but true. Now tell me how a BH can have a viable template with armor break and healing and still be able to hunt Jedi as an MBH. Can't be done.Plus my point is get rid of armor break and root and we might have a game.
Message Edited by Yukmot on 07-13-2005 12:19 AM
How about his spin: Get your armor sliced for armor break resistance, then you wont need an armor break of your own. Jedi do not have access to armor break resistant armor. You can negate armor break without even having to spend skill points, so why is it overpowered?
Then why do Jedi have a stasis root?
Amsterdoom wrote:
jedi=melee asking for a armourbreak as ranged is like asking for a root as a melee person
TheVeryBadDay wrote:
Ok, so melee fighters have armor break, Jedi have armor break yet of all the ranged professions, none has that ability.
Since we're now forced to have MBH to hunt Jedi, how about making that master box a little more rewarding? Like adding a special armor break shot? If they don't want MBH to become a part of every ranged FOTM, fine, make that AB effective against Jedi armor only.
warrenbassist wrote:
Then why do Jedi have a stasis root?
Amsterdoom wrote:
jedi=melee asking for a armourbreak as ranged is like asking for a root as a melee person
TheVeryBadDay wrote:
Ok, so melee fighters have armor break, Jedi have armor break yet of all the ranged professions, none has that ability.
Since we're now forced to have MBH to hunt Jedi, how about making that master box a little more rewarding? Like adding a special armor break shot? If they don't want MBH to become a part of every ranged FOTM, fine, make that AB effective against Jedi armor only.
Because stais is a master enhancer special and is ranged (upto 32m). Why CMs have paralyze? You are asking too 'smart' questions.
MasterSad wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
Then why do Jedi have a stasis root?
Amsterdoom wrote:
jedi=melee asking for a armourbreak as ranged is like asking for a root as a melee person
TheVeryBadDay wrote:
Ok, so melee fighters have armor break, Jedi have armor break yet of all the ranged professions, none has that ability.
Since we're now forced to have MBH to hunt Jedi, how about making that master box a little more rewarding? Like adding a special armor break shot? If they don't want MBH to become a part of every ranged FOTM, fine, make that AB effective against Jedi armor only.
Because stais is a master enhancer special and is ranged (upto 32m). Why CMs have paralyze? You are asking too 'smart' questions.
well troll, oh let me quote that for you for emphasis, 'troll', the poster above was calling Jedia melee class so I decided to ask a simple question nothing more.
warrenbassist wrote:
well troll, oh let me quote that for you for emphasis, 'troll', the poster above was calling Jedi a melee class so I decided to ask a simple question nothing more.
Happy?
ROFL!Message Edited by MasterSad on 07-13-2005 01:09 PM
MasterSad wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
well troll, oh let me quote that for you for emphasis, 'troll', the poster above was calling Jedi a melee class so I decided to ask a simple question nothing more.
Happy?
Message Edited by MasterSad on 07-13-2005 01:09 PM
Yeah I'm exstatic LMAO
Was it good for you?
Message Edited by warrenbassist on 07-13-2005 07:11 AM
jalexu wrote:
Cap is 10k aka 60%. As for ranged AB, not possible, ranged would become very overpowered. Yes, jedi do get some minimal ranged abilities to keep up with kiting, that is all.
Amsterdoom wrote:
Jargal wrote:
ForceArmor Break would be cool in MBH box, since all jedis got boosted forcearmor in publ. 19.
In fact jedi forcearmor cap at 10000, and the best regular recon armor caps at 8000.
So it would be fair with the armor break for MBHs. Jedi also got both ranged and melee skills in thier skilltree. So why wouldn't we also have it?
Message Edited by Jargal on 07-12-200504:53 AM
the cap is 6k it doesnt stack
Lets just meet half way and get rid of armor break all together. While we are at it lets get rid of root as well. This would be a compromise as melee would give up something and so would ranged. Plus I think both specials are pretty stupid and take away from game play and fun in the fashion that spamming force drain used to.
Are we gonna go over this same question again?
EVERY person has access to Armourbreak, go pick up xx4x Brawler and you can have it.
Just because your template doesn't have AB ability doesn't mean it should be added just to benfit you.
My Jedi template doesn't have cloak, or AI, or Aura, you don't see me asking for them to be added to my template do you??
Damian-j wrote:
Are we gonna go over this same question again?
EVERY person has access to Armourbreak, go pick up xx4x Brawler and you can have it.
Just because your template doesn't have AB ability doesn't mean it should be added just to benfit you.
My Jedi template doesn't have cloak, or AI, or Aura, you don't see me asking for them to be added to my template do you??
We don't have access to armor break and healing. Healing is a MUST in this game now, unfortunate but true. Now tell me how a BH can have a viable template with armor break and healing and still be able to hunt Jedi as an MBH. Can't be done.
Plus my point is get rid of armor break and root and we might have a game.
Message Edited by Yukmot on 07-13-2005 12:19 AM