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Thread: Can a jedi actually res himself???
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Eskie
Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:45 pm
#14
Sirisandir wrote:
Maxil wrote:
yea, "aiding actions" don't uncloak us. Only attacks, and for some reason KDR do, whereas /stand doesn't...
Why hasnt this been nerfed yet?
Yeah, I think this needs to be adressed - combatants cannot assist SF players because they cannot be hurt by the attacker of the one they are giving assistance, SF cloakers (who also cannot be attacked) can assist without any consequences. As far as I am concerned, self-assists (channeling, healing, Enhancer buffs) should be possible while cloaked, assisting others (healing, Force transfer) should break cloak so the opposing side has a chance to keep that assistance from happening. But - that should be a whole new thread.
jafo1
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:57 am
#15
Eskie wrote:
IamtheNight wrote:
Thats what i just thought. Good freak'n greif...now they can rise from the dead??!?!? Ok..now thats seriously messed up.
AynenAmolen wrote:
It was either a Hero of Tat ring or most likely was Regain Conciousness, a Master Enhancer skill that is a self rez at the cost of force regen.
Why? You get paid and the Jedi gets the xp penalty as soon as you DB him. It doesnt matter what happens afterwards, you completed your mission.
The Hero of Tatooine ring can be used by everybody, not just Jedi.
Regain Consciousness is a Master Enhancer ability, meaning a Jedi spent 89 skill points to get it (along with an escape path, some armor and a few buffs). Those skill points will be missing in either offense, defense or healing. Furthermore, the Force regen rate of the Jedi will be severely gimped after using this skill.
Since there is no xp loss on cloning anymore, these skills are nothing a BH should be worried about because using them just saves the Jedi the way back from the cloner to the battle.
Well I agree What do I care aslong as I was paid. Heck if the guy has a Doc or CM come rez him. Big deal.
Maxil
Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:03 am
#16
also realize guys if a jedi is staying cloaked in a battle, especially if he's aiding, he is channeling.. It's not uncommon for me to channel myself well below 1k health, so if you suspect a cloaked jedi aiding in the battle, get everyone to toss some area attatcks, might nick 'em pretty good
scoodoobydoo
Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:07 am
#17
im just confused
i think ill fill him in on the Top Secret jedi master boxes
master defender
avoid incap ( invisncibility for 30 seconds wth a self snare so they walk slowcan be counterd by 2000 enhancer force run )
(some defenders are too die hard mls mdef to get fr 1 tho : / lol )
master healer full heal it used to be 500 for self and 1k for other
and pre cu it was marvelous for 325 base force cost
it could heal 999 woun say of 1k health without buffs (max wounds could be on all 3 bars : / and battle fatigue all of it )
remember how battle fatigue used to hurt alot and pile up :/ ya bf is gone thats no good
remember how dizzy kd = on back dying help me! heal all states! stand up! tada
well fll heal heals all states however dizzy kd is a thing of the pas
stun and intimidate and blind arent as effective as they used to be
remember Dot weapons with the uber ticks ? this and wounds was what made full heals good
everyone pvpd with poison disease and fire on weapons and cm remember mind was the all important bar of life ?
well mind is the all important now bcause without it u cant heal! lol but u cant hit it now just let them wear themselves out or use sap improved sap is a little worse then cm sap tho - regen to mind and action lol
anyways full heal = heal all states damage dots wounds bf for 500 force for self and 1k for other ( pre cu )
check on heall all now 325 force base
powers breach has a chance to break force buffs ( like the buff bleed disease poison states and force speed or aura valor or force run
Avoid incap isnt a force buff its a POSItive state and breach cannot break it ever ( ridiculous )
anyways choke its a dot lowers hp hurts goes through armor now ( best move powers has pls dont nerf it theyre other attacks suck so freaking bad
( you have to know what your doing )-glasscannon like many other new jedi builds with light defender.. besides aoe kd for pvp with large groups )
mls gets the worst imo with FS2 doc speed buff and speed tapes useing a one handed mls move so fast tho
my friend is like a ninja lol
mods and dervish ( aoe )
anyways
thats healer powers defender mls
enhancer has force run three ( ive heard fr 2 isnt that much faster then fr2 but my friend he outruns me all the time )
however burst run is faster then force run1 but i can force run 1 alot longer then anyone can burst run
enhancer also has stasis the ultimate mesmerize cannot heal attack or move (basically any action )
although it is a mez ive heard of several bugs where they can get in certain attacks while in stasis
but from my experience this is server lag
and to the point of your post yes a master enhancer can res himself
it gives a 30 minute debuff that doesnt go away if he dies it severely lowers your force regen
it used to bug and not go away till server reset if u died multiple times
however now it will go away eventually though it may take hours if u res yourself a couple times
ohk theres the rundown pls feel free to add to whati have missed in details but seriously if u want to flame
know i will never be back to this thread ever so waste your time if u want : P
Gohma_Manovich
Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:12 am
#19
was probably regain consciousnes problem though that it takes 1k force and lowers your force regen by 20% for 1hour
Maxil
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:16 am
#20
Sazars wrote:
feigh death dosent work in pvp anymore i thought
it's borky, there's ways to exploit it so it does, and sometimes it just breaks and works like it used too.
RebRifle
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:28 pm
#21
ya i learned this in a pvp battle after i killed a jedi and he kept getting back up. After teh third time i sat there trained on him till he could do it anymore.
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