Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: define terminal griefing
Of course you weren't, not since you killed mell.
Sokal wrote:
You post is not true in my case.. I've been a MBH since the start.. Now that I unlocked jedi, I have had nothing but 100's of people coming for me.. I die atleast 2 -3 times a day which cost me -190k'ish per kill. I can't solo hunt anything. And I've been killed 3 times since I unlocked 2 weeks ago on KASH. So how is it my fault I get on the terms.. grind on kash get seen. grind in a group get seen.. can't solo hunt cause to weak.
Never was a big fan of jedi xp lost.. I personal belive that if they make jedi suffer with the xp lost for being a jedi.. then each faction stays on full overt and any player of opp. faction can attack them at anytime. Their own fault for picking a faction.. Also add that they drop a rank and all their faction points each time they get killed.
BZKR_Darthtroop wrote:
Of course you weren't, not since you killed mell.
Sokal wrote:
You post is not true in my case.. I've been a MBH since the start.. Now that I unlocked jedi, I have had nothing but 100's of people coming for me.. I die atleast 2 -3 times a day which cost me -190k'ish per kill. I can't solo hunt anything. And I've been killed 3 times since I unlocked 2 weeks ago on KASH. So how is it my fault I get on the terms.. grind on kash get seen. grind in a group get seen.. can't solo hunt cause to weak.Never was a big fan of jedi xp lost.. I personal belive that if they make jedi suffer with the xp lost for being a jedi.. then each faction stays on full overt and any player of opp. faction can attack them at anytime. Their own fault for picking a faction.. Also add that they drop a rank and all their faction points each time they get killed.
If your reason to kill Jedi is to inflict xp loss on their toon and not the challenge of a good hunt and a good fight, you have the wrong profession. You dont happen to go after marks in the 100k - 150k range, do you?
ktanner3 wrote:
TaKylea wrote:
I've taken a mission, killed the Jedi and returned to terminals and found the same Jedi's mission at the same payout. If vis isn't benig reset and missions coming off of the termianls then it's SOEs responsibility to fix it. Instead of addressing the real problem we have Pub. 20 ready to go live.
Honestly though, why would you wanna go after the same Jedi more than once a night? Unless your purpose was to grief/harass. There are too many Jedi throughout the galaxies to stick with bothering the same one over and over.Tired of tracking them to Kashyyk you say? Not every Jedi owns ROTW and not all Jedi spend their entire online time there.
In the end it's the lazy BH that has brought us to where we are today. Those that want the quick easy money are to blame. Take the easy way instead of using any type of skill to complete the hunt is what they are best at. Can anyone say RESPEC BHs ?!
I was hunting some creatures with a group that included a jedi who very shortly after we started killing the bols got attacked and killed by a bounty hunter. What did the jedi do right after that? Came back from the cloners and continued using his lightsaber to kill creatures with our group. That is why they keep getting back on the terminals . Can anyone say dumb jedi's?
It's not a matter of being a dumb jedi, the only way he can make up the XP loss without a 2 or 3 day solo grind is to group hunt. I was killed by a BH on Friday night while group hunting, I suffered 336k loss.. I rez'd and continued grinding until I was out of the hole that night. 2 days later I've already trained a tier 1 and tier 2 box.
One interesting observation though, everyone is complaining about losing the names and not being able to get a name on Kashyyyk, but no one is talking about them removing visibility w/ pub 20. Removing visibility while grouping is going to eliminate the need for grinding on Kashyyyk. Less Jedi are going to be on the terminals, infact the only jedi you're going to see on the terminals are full templated Knights who PvP.
DrMosh wrote:
ktanner3 wrote:
TaKylea wrote:
I've taken a mission, killed the Jedi and returned to terminals and found the same Jedi's mission at the same payout. If vis isn't benig reset and missions coming off of the termianls then it's SOEs responsibility to fix it. Instead of addressing the real problem we have Pub. 20 ready to go live.
Honestly though, why would you wanna go after the same Jedi more than once a night? Unless your purpose was to grief/harass. There are too many Jedi throughout the galaxies to stick with bothering the same one over and over.Tired of tracking them to Kashyyk you say? Not every Jedi owns ROTW and not all Jedi spend their entire online time there.
In the end it's the lazy BH that has brought us to where we are today. Those that want the quick easy money are to blame. Take the easy way instead of using any type of skill to complete the hunt is what they are best at. Can anyone say RESPEC BHs ?!
I was hunting some creatures with a group that included a jedi who very shortly after we started killing the bols got attacked and killed by a bounty hunter. What did the jedi do right after that? Came back from the cloners and continued using his lightsaber to kill creatures with our group. That is why they keep getting back on the terminals . Can anyone say dumb jedi's?
It's not a matter of being a dumb jedi, the only way he can make up the XP loss without a 2 or 3 day solo grind is to group hunt. I was killed by a BH on Friday night while group hunting, I suffered 336k loss.. I rez'd and continued grinding until I was out of the hole that night. 2 days later I've already trained a tier 1 and tier 2 box.
One interesting observation though, everyone is complaining about losing the names and not being able to get a name on Kashyyyk, but no one is talking about them removing visibility w/ pub 20. Removing visibility while grouping is going to eliminate the need for grinding on Kashyyyk. Less Jedi are going to be on the terminals, infact the only jedi you're going to see on the terminals are full templated Knights who PvP.
ktanner3 wrote:
DrMosh wrote:
ktanner3 wrote:
TaKylea wrote:
I've taken a mission, killed the Jedi and returned to terminals and found the same Jedi's mission at the same payout. If vis isn't benig reset and missions coming off of the termianls then it's SOEs responsibility to fix it. Instead of addressing the real problem we have Pub. 20 ready to go live.
Honestly though, why would you wanna go after the same Jedi more than once a night? Unless your purpose was to grief/harass. There are too many Jedi throughout the galaxies to stick with bothering the same one over and over.Tired of tracking them to Kashyyk you say? Not every Jedi owns ROTW and not all Jedi spend their entire online time there.
In the end it's the lazy BH that has brought us to where we are today. Those that want the quick easy money are to blame. Take the easy way instead of using any type of skill to complete the hunt is what they are best at. Can anyone say RESPEC BHs ?!
I was hunting some creatures with a group that included a jedi who very shortly after we started killing the bols got attacked and killed by a bounty hunter. What did the jedi do right after that? Came back from the cloners and continued using his lightsaber to kill creatures with our group. That is why they keep getting back on the terminals . Can anyone say dumb jedi's?
It's not a matter of being a dumb jedi, the only way he can make up the XP loss without a 2 or 3 day solo grind is to group hunt. I was killed by a BH on Friday night while group hunting, I suffered 336k loss.. I rez'd and continued grinding until I was out of the hole that night. 2 days later I've already trained a tier 1 and tier 2 box.
One interesting observation though, everyone is complaining about losing the names and not being able to get a name on Kashyyyk, but no one is talking about them removing visibility w/ pub 20. Removing visibility while grouping is going to eliminate the need for grinding on Kashyyyk. Less Jedi are going to be on the terminals, infact the only jedi you're going to see on the terminals are full templated Knights who PvP.
Of course you made it back up, which again proves that the xp loss is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. And I hope your statement is true because the only jedi that deserve to be on the terminals are the ones who show of in starports because they know the odds of them losing to a bounty hunter are virtually nill.That's why I believe grouping of two hunters against those knights is a fair match.But that won't happen. Jedi will still laugh and claim that a bounty hunter can go one on one against a Full templated jedi even though they know themselves it isn't true.
If this isnt true, why are there posts about soloing 225k and 226k marks in the BH forums of people who actually did it?
Eskie wrote:
ktanner3 wrote:
DrMosh wrote:
ktanner3 wrote:
TaKylea wrote:
I've taken a mission, killed the Jedi and returned to terminals and found the same Jedi's mission at the same payout. If vis isn't benig reset and missions coming off of the termianls then it's SOEs responsibility to fix it. Instead of addressing the real problem we have Pub. 20 ready to go live.
Honestly though, why would you wanna go after the same Jedi more than once a night? Unless your purpose was to grief/harass. There are too many Jedi throughout the galaxies to stick with bothering the same one over and over.Tired of tracking them to Kashyyk you say? Not every Jedi owns ROTW and not all Jedi spend their entire online time there.
In the end it's the lazy BH that has brought us to where we are today. Those that want the quick easy money are to blame. Take the easy way instead of using any type of skill to complete the hunt is what they are best at. Can anyone say RESPEC BHs ?!
I was hunting some creatures with a group that included a jedi who very shortly after we started killing the bols got attacked and killed by a bounty hunter. What did the jedi do right after that? Came back from the cloners and continued using his lightsaber to kill creatures with our group. That is why they keep getting back on the terminals . Can anyone say dumb jedi's?
It's not a matter of being a dumb jedi, the only way he can make up the XP loss without a 2 or 3 day solo grind is to group hunt. I was killed by a BH on Friday night while group hunting, I suffered 336k loss.. I rez'd and continued grinding until I was out of the hole that night. 2 days later I've already trained a tier 1 and tier 2 box.
One interesting observation though, everyone is complaining about losing the names and not being able to get a name on Kashyyyk, but no one is talking about them removing visibility w/ pub 20. Removing visibility while grouping is going to eliminate the need for grinding on Kashyyyk. Less Jedi are going to be on the terminals, infact the only jedi you're going to see on the terminals are full templated Knights who PvP.
Of course you made it back up, which again proves that the xp loss is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. And I hope your statement is true because the only jedi that deserve to be on the terminals are the ones who show of in starports because they know the odds of them losing to a bounty hunter are virtually nill.That's why I believe grouping of two hunters against those knights is a fair match.But that won't happen. Jedi will still laugh and claim that a bounty hunter can go one on one against a Full templated jedi even though they know themselves it isn't true.
If this isnt true, why are there posts about soloing 225k and 226k marks in the BH forums of people who actually did it?
If the jedi has any pvp skill in his body, knows how to craft a decent lightsaber,knows how to use the lightsaber,knowsthe weapon nerf skill called force aura,and knows his template, he will always beat a Mbh/Master whatever in one versus one . If the skill levels were correct they would be somewhere between 90-100 not level 80. If they can take out high level mobs solo and no other profession can then lets give them the correct skill level and stop trying to fool us in believing they are on equal par with a level 80.Yes i've beaten some full templated jedi. After some tells I quickly discovered they had only had the jedi account a short while.Wonder why that is?
I've seen a guy in stormtrooper armour whip a doublebladed lightsaber jedi with Master Carbineer/Master Combat Medic. Guess what? He can't hunt jedi anymore after the next publish becausesome unskilled jedi complained about getting owned by dabblers.
ALARIA wrote:I was hunting some creatures with a group that included a jedi who very shortly after we started killing the bols got attacked and killed by a bounty hunter. What did the jedi do right after that? Came back from the cloners and continued using his lightsaber to kill creatures with our group. That is why they keep getting back on the terminals . Can anyone say dumb jedi's?__________________________________________________________________________________________________In some cases yes, but I can certainly say IGNORANT BH as well. Derived from the dictinary word, to Ignore.To Remain purposely oblivious... shall I go On?Soe has created a system where every thing, EVERY THING a jedi does in any jedi way, makes a jedi Visible.If any PC or NPC ever comes voluntarily or by accident into a jedi's 32 range of visiblity while they equip robes, saber, or use said, or any other force ability, ( Which is a recquirement to advance) Visibility is Generated.Let me educate you some here.As a BH, you ground in groups. No, no. You DID. Dont lie.And if you did your grinding at all AFTER the CU you most definately did it in groups, cuz there is No way in hell you could effectively get it done solo. Well? . . . did you, or didnt you? Thought so.Thinking that its some how easier for a jedi paddy who must canibalise thier former proffessions strongets points, to gain a newb jedi's weakest ones, thinking they have almsot ANY other option other than to group, (just like You did) ...... Thats Ignorance my dear. In the dictionary sense of the word. Not actually meant as an insult.Of Course he got back on the horse to grind. his choices are what? stop being a jedi?maybe when You stop being a BH.No? Then why would He?He wants to have fun, wants to advance, pays his monthly game fee just like you do, and thus has that right, and does the only thing the system allows for.He takes his chances and jumps back into the grind.Which I might add, pays Your bills, so why the heck are You complaining?Dont want to be hunted, dont become Vis. ...Thats the Most used by BH, and most ignorant statement on this subject matter in the game.You virtually cannot be a jedi with out becomming Visible.And finaly that unfair over sight which has filled BH pockets, is being corrected if only a little. With patch 20.Good day Gentlemen. Happy Hunting.ALARIA.
I love the way he always posts in yellow italics, so that he may appear to authoritative on any subject, but the truth is if a Jedi doesn't want to be on the terms they shouldn't do things to get on the terms. If that means it taking a billion times longer to grind then so be it. It obviously takes less time to grind getting vis and occasionally getting killed so do that and don't complain.
Jedi knew the deal when they started the profession. I mean if I go to the store and purposefully rent a movie I hate should I really complain about it after?
good luck getting Goerge Lucas canned...know of what you speak before you say it. eheh
senseiburns wrote:
i've often thought the coolest part of this game was that it took place during episode 4 and 5. this is a world where the empire is at it fullest and there are NO jedi. for immersion the jedi hunters should be given all the breaks. instead it is really easy to stay off the terms and exploit the system. LOS, water hiding, and invisibility are good examples of these exploits. that is of course until the jedi fills his template and enters "the forced griefing profession". at which point he roleplays duels in theed for immersion. the stormies should be killing these jedi and so should every imperial player in the galaxies. instead this game has turned into a world where jedi is the end game and they get all the breaks. whoever gave the ok on that one should be let go.
thanks.
Jedi knew the deal when they started the profession. I mean if I go to the store and purposefully rent a movie I hate should I really complain about it after?
ktanner3 wrote:
Of course you made it back up, which again proves that the xp loss is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. And I hope your statement is true because the only jedi that deserve to be on the terminals are the ones who show of in starports because they know the odds of them losing to a bounty hunter are virtually nill.That's why I believe grouping of two hunters against those knights is a fair match.But that won't happen. Jedi will still laugh and claim that a bounty hunter can go one on one against a Full templated jedi even though they know themselves it isn't true.
Sinikal_Munkey wrote:
ktanner3 wrote:
Of course you made it back up, which again proves that the xp loss is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. And I hope your statement is true because the only jedi that deserve to be on the terminals are the ones who show of in starports because they know the odds of them losing to a bounty hunter are virtually nill.That's why I believe grouping of two hunters against those knights is a fair match.But that won't happen. Jedi will still laugh and claim that a bounty hunter can go one on one against a Full templated jedi even though they know themselves it isn't true.
I wouldagree to your statement about 2 hunters grouping on the same target, but game mechanics just don't allow for that type of game play. The current batch of Jedi will not have the uber sabers us pre-cu Jedi will have, nor will they be able to have the reduced action costs associated with them. Because I farmed pearls so long ago, I have a high damage low sac cost. And if this ever became true, I'd like to see the Jedi Master/Padawan relationship in the same publish. IMO, Jedi shouldn't be about solo gameplay, but DUO gameplay. This is semi-addressed with no group vis, but still locks the Jedi out from any outside help/interference when a BH or group of BH's attacks.
As for the bold text, the smart BH will use his wits to win. During recent testing, I used my MBH/Rifles to duel a friend of mine who has MDEF/MLS. I covered and opened with sniper shot. Net result was almost 1/3 of his health gone when it hit for 860 points of damage. Since this was testing, I also spammed the kd/disarm/startle combo after the initial hit. Things were looking grim for him. To note, he purposely did not take any foods or such for protection. It was only until he turned on force valoor did things turn in his favor. I couldn't hit him nor could I stack the I Win combo. Our innate abilities which should have been stats on our robes now consumes 1/4 to 1/3 of our skill points in Jedi skills. This doesn't leave much for the rest of skills I'd like to have.
I am so with you on the master/padawan thing for jedi. From what I have seen so far the jedi system makes no sense. Light jedi using red lightsabers and forcelightning is very un jedi like and more in line with the dark side of the force.And I won't even go into the light jedi gank squads at the starports.It should be more geared towards one's actions in situations than it is just slaughtering creatures. People say that is too much like knights of the old republic and I say well, that's more accurate with what I saw with the jedi on film so why not? If this was instituted then jedi wouldn't mind so much bounty hunters grouping together to take them on. Put a cap of say 3 to 4 bounty hunters per 2 jedi. And since this new system is geared towards something other than grinding remove the xp loss. Penalty could be no moving up skill boxes unless x is completed or something of that nature.
I haven't had a chance to test on the center, but it sounds like things are the same. Without defense status's up(which never happens) the full templated jedi is vulnerable. With valor and or aura forget about it as you quickly saw in testing. My sliced T21 becomes a watergun that even with sniper or conceal shot is at best 500 points and those are only usable once in a fight.Every other hit is 150-300. And you are sooooo right on those pre-cu sabers.Those things are just plain nasty to my 7000 energy resist recon armour.