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Miqmac

Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:43 pm

Did you see the part in my post about the Gorax (I cant even imagine what NK is like now). With my Jedi (mls, 4404 enh, 1040 def, 4000 heal) 2 knights with very similar builds and a cm we could not collectively do enough damage to this thing to barely notice it.

Valondra

Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:52 pm

#15

Dodece wrote:

Once again another moron and yes I will call him a moron because he dosent listen or even pay attention.

1. Okay get this straight not all BH templates are damage dealers some BH templates gasp are tanks. For us unlucky few we cant match the damage regen on these guys thats the gripe its not the AI the AI is fine its ridiculous regen to their health. I am a MBH/MCH and quite frankly I cannot put out this kind of damage when he heals for 1000plus a tick. I am a tank and as part of my nature I cannot do that. In other words MBHs who happen to be tanks can do nothing against this regeneration. I can fight these guys for hours and not cover this retarded regen.

2. This is the one and only gripe nobody is complaining about the AI and a few are complaining about the damage but most are complaining about the unrealistic regeneration. This is whats getting people. We have no means to defeat the enemy all the food in the world can only go so far if your a tank your defenses are fantastic its just you cannot deal any damage. This was the original TKA gripe early in the game sure I can stand infront of something forever but I cannot hurt it at all.

3. The rational conclusion is that the regen is too high, and a far better solution would be for the health to be boosted rather then the regen. It would maintain the challenge for full offense players but allow tanks to beat them useing tanking tactics.

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Mousyman

Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:15 pm

#16

Miqmac wrote:
And by the way Dodece I have read several posts by MBH/MCM that handle these marks fine. It just takes a little planning. with your poisons and a bleed shot if you cant pull out a droid and outdamage the regen then you need 1. a better gun and 2. some classes on how to be a damage dealer with a *gasp* tank build because believe it or not you can do both.

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xakia

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:12 pm

#17

Some of us older Bounty Hunters became hunters for the thrill of taking on elite marks. If you want free loot and a secure cash income, go make a crafter. Don't be screaming nerf on our marks. It's about damn time they made these things difficult/challenge like they were in the past.

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threetwosix

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:19 pm

#18

IMHO, these marks are not fighting as they should based on the little number next to their names indicating their cl. My suggestion would be to increase the cl indication so we would know what we are up against and increase the payout for missions of this difficulty. An increase in probability for exceptional loot would be nice too.

I can understand how some of you want to come here and brag about how you can beat these guys and talk down to people mentioning their difficulty with them. The funny thing is, to be honest, I think some of you are telling lies. Either that or you just haven't experienced the type of marks the others are discussing. We all know that some marks can be attacked by multiple players. Tonight, I was involved in fighting a mark with another BH. We are both MBH/Master pistol/ with healing abilities. I'm using a F-FWG with DPS right around 553 and good armor. I'm not sure what the other uses/wears. We are both using the best buffs that can be bought on the server. Anyway, this mark had just over 30k health when we started and we never got it below 28.5k health by the time it had owned both of us. That's 2 BHs healing themselves and each other. Never getting the mark more than 1500 health below it's max.

The problem isn't the difficulty. The problem is the fact that I can fight a cl 81 and win and then fight another cl 81 an hour later using the same tactics and not get him below 90% health. It's not consistent. What's the point of having a cl indicator if it basically means nothing.

In PvE, a cl 80 playershouldn't have to use driods/pets to fight a cl 80 NPC. It should be an even fight considering they are both the same combat level.

There's a HUGE gap between cl 79 marks and cl 80 marks. And even a HUGE gap between some cl 80 marks and other cl 80 marks. Based on difficulty.

It doesn't need to be nerfed. It needs to be FIXED. It makes no sense to fight a mark that's going to take 12 min to kill for 31k credits when you can fight one that takes 2 min to kill and get 29k credits and same chance at loot, basically.

As I said, FIX the cl indicator to correctly indicate the difficulty of the NPC and increase the payout for those missions and <crosses fingers> loot chance on those mobs. Then, all you uberific leetaculous BHs can have something real to brag about.

/wink

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LordMarr

Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:24 am

#19

i have been doing BH missions and yet to get one of those really tough boss marks. They must be rare cause i havent seen one in the dozen or so missions i had. The loot hasnt been great either so im hoping i can get a tough one and get somedecent loot. I think its cool that there is something out there that u can't kill easily. It makes it challenging and got to think up stategies on how to kill one. Bh's shouldnt whine, we are not invinsible.

I think someof the reallyrudecomplaning about tough marks come from jedi that have BH alts for lightsaber tapes. I mean they are really screaming nasty stuff on the jedi forums, then they play theirbh alts, then find out they can't easily win that fight either with an npc and so scream here on the BH forums as well that the game is too hard.

I hope i get a tough mission tonight that makes me have to run away and rethink my battle plan. Sounds like fun, just unlucky pulling missions so far.

Ulrek_Oden

Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:34 am

#20

They are beatable.... but there is no point to fighting them as the loot is not any better.

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Iawo

Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:37 am

#21

Ulrek_Oden wrote:

They are beatable.... but there is no point to fighting them as the loot is not any better.

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GnortHunter

Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:35 am

#22

Miqmac wrote:

I have no problem with boss marks being this tough (no tougher please) if they would make the loot a fair payout. with a mark this hard there should be a bonus of 100k or so on complettion and a guarantee ca/aa. I got a lousy mando frame and a ca for +9 food exp, +5 structure assy and +11 2h-melee def. (they should guarantee you a +10minimum clean ca/aa or a quality crystal).

some people are getting spoiled......

you might as well just ask for a minimum of 2 million per 20-25 mission you do...

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Saunier

Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:13 am

#23

xakia wrote:

Some of us older Bounty Hunters became hunters for the thrill of taking on elite marks. If you want free loot and a secure cash income, go make a crafter. Don't be screaming nerf on our marks. It's about damn time they made these things difficult/challenge like they were in the past.

moron... do you even now what we are talking obout?... and what does being old BHs have anything to do with it?

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TheFruitThatAteAntarctica

Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:16 am

#24

GnortHunter wrote:

Miqmac wrote:

I have no problem with boss marks being this tough (no tougher please) if they would make the loot a fair payout. with a mark this hard there should be a bonus of 100k or so on complettion and a guarantee ca/aa. I got a lousy mando frame and a ca for +9 food exp, +5 structure assy and +11 2h-melee def. (they should guarantee you a +10minimum clean ca/aa or a quality crystal).

some people are getting spoiled......

you might as well just ask for a minimum of 2 million per 20-25 mission you do...
Message Edited by GnortHunter on 10-22-2005 02:42 AM

QFE

Remember when Bounty Hunter's didn't get ANY loot? Gauranteed loot means it very quickly won't be worth anything, because everyone will have them. IMO, BH loot is good as it is. What needs to be fixed is loot for everybody else. Krayts, Deathwatch bunker, etc, the loot tables everywhere EXCEPT BH are borked. There should be a way for any CL80 to get decent loot without having to be a BH, but it should never be gauranteed (except in specific quest type places like Necrosis, but even that has some randomness to it).

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Saunier

Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:23 am

#25

Miqmac wrote:
And by the way Dodece I have read several posts by MBH/MCM that handle these marks fine. It just takes a little planning. with your poisons and a bleed shot if you cant pull out a droid and outdamage the regen then you need 1. a better gun and 2. some classes on how to be a damage dealer with a *gasp* tank build because believe it or not you can do both.

OK.. My toon is MBH/MCM and I am in a serious PvP guild so I have all the best equipment I can get. I roll jedi easier then this by a long shot. My double bar elite last night was unkillable while solo. I droped all states on him and kept them on, I rooted him, I got my droid on him, I even went as far as calling a Squad Leader to come and join me and give me the new buffs... It wasnt the 35k ham it had, it wasnt the fact that it could regen health so fast, it wasnt the AI by a long shot, it was the fact that once the root ran out, no matter how far away I was it was warped right to me and began wailing on me at 800+ damage, thank god my armor is AB sliced. He would attack me while KDed also and could shoot while swimming and through buildings. Fix the bugs and consider lowering the HAM/Health regen or let us take these with groups. I can kill a krayt solo 3 times faster/easier than this. I would challange anyone to kill my mark last night solo... he was impossible.

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Saunier

Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:25 am

#26

TheFruitThatAteAntarctica wrote:

GnortHunter wrote:

Miqmac wrote:

I have no problem with boss marks being this tough (no tougher please) if they would make the loot a fair payout. with a mark this hard there should be a bonus of 100k or so on complettion and a guarantee ca/aa. I got a lousy mando frame and a ca for +9 food exp, +5 structure assy and +11 2h-melee def. (they should guarantee you a +10minimum clean ca/aa or a quality crystal).

some people are getting spoiled......

you might as well just ask for a minimum of 2 million per 20-25 mission you do...

Message Edited by GnortHunter on 10-22-2005 02:42 AM

QFE

Remember when Bounty Hunter's didn't get ANY loot? Gauranteed loot means it very quickly won't be worth anything, because everyone will have them. IMO, BH loot is good as it is. What needs to be fixed is loot for everybody else. Krayts, Deathwatch bunker, etc, the loot tables everywhere EXCEPT BH are borked. There should be a way for any CL80 to get decent loot without having to be a BH, but it should never be gauranteed (except in specific quest type places like Necrosis, but even that has some randomness to it).

I also dont want loot to be dropped every time. I like the loot drop the way it is, although i get really upset when elite marks drop a jar of bugs. I still think the loot drop system is good and doesnt need to be changed.

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