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Thread: Tanks, A dev stated that our first strike ability makes us equal to a full template jedi

A_Lamer
Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:34 pm
#14



Eskie wrote:
Not bull. You can pick when and where the fight will take place. Stalk your mark and wait till the Jedi is weak. Dont expect to start a fight that turns out in your favor as soon as you arrive at the waypoint your seeker gave you.



Funny, I didn't hear any devs announce that 1.5x included them having 500hp left. In that case then yes, our first strike = 1.5x. Otherwise however you're full of crap and just trying to justify the fact that the devs either think we should all be MRifleman who have sac, damage, and speed capped rifles or that the MDef MLS jedi aren't capable of taking on at least 2 BH at a time post CU.



Starsider: Denala Vik'nar BH/Pistoleer/Combat Medic
Eskie
Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:02 pm
#15



FettandhisVett wrote:


Eskie wrote:


FettandhisVett wrote:


Eskie wrote:


Mullettt wrote:


Eskie wrote:
Not bull. You can pick when and where the fight will take place. Stalk your mark and wait till the Jedi is weak. Dont expect to start a fight that turns out in your favor as soon as you arrive at the waypoint your seeker gave you.


No we dont pick when and where anymore, We get to target WP, find a group of jedi, tab tab tab tab tab tab, found him. He has already /dueled us, knows we are after him before we do, and FR away.




Who stops you from leaving and returning 30 mins later, still holding his mission?


because theres a good chance hes FRing to his house or a jedi safehouse, and in 30 mins he will still be there or have logged off?




But you have his name, so nothing changed from pre-pub 20 then. He will be online within the next 3 days, unless he is really paranoid.

Ohh wounderful idea, 3 days between jedi kills, PURE GENIUS!

id rather grind jedi from CL 1 using a sparkler and in my underwear.





Do you really think a Jedi will log out and not play for 3 days if he didnt care about visibility so far? Most Jedi log out and log back in within an hour because they know most BHs just drop the mission instead of being persistent. We are talking about "Bounty Hunting", not "Getting Jedi Served on a Plate".



Eskona Runningstar
12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
Eskie
Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:05 pm
#16



A_Lamer wrote:


Eskie wrote:
Not bull. You can pick when and where the fight will take place. Stalk your mark and wait till the Jedi is weak. Dont expect to start a fight that turns out in your favor as soon as you arrive at the waypoint your seeker gave you.



Funny, I didn't hear any devs announce that 1.5x included them having 500hp left. In that case then yes, our first strike = 1.5x. Otherwise however you're full of crap and just trying to justify the fact that the devs either think we should all be MRifleman who have sac, damage, and speed capped rifles or that the MDef MLS jedi aren't capable of taking on at least 2 BH at a time post CU.



You misunderstood the meaning of "first strike". First strike does not equal one-hit incap. And I am not justifying anything the devs do, they have to do that on their own or pay me to do it.



Eskona Runningstar
12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
A_Lamer
Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:59 pm
#17



Eskie wrote:


A_Lamer wrote:


Eskie wrote:
Not bull. You can pick when and where the fight will take place. Stalk your mark and wait till the Jedi is weak. Dont expect to start a fight that turns out in your favor as soon as you arrive at the waypoint your seeker gave you.



Funny, I didn't hear any devs announce that 1.5x included them having 500hp left. In that case then yes, our first strike = 1.5x. Otherwise however you're full of crap and just trying to justify the fact that the devs either think we should all be MRifleman who have sac, damage, and speed capped rifles or that the MDef MLS jedi aren't capable of taking on at least 2 BH at a time post CU.



You misunderstood the meaning of "first strike". First strike does not equal one-hit incap. And I am not justifying anything the devs do, they have to do that on their own or pay me to do it.



You misunderstood the point. I never meant it should be a 1 hit incap, however saying that the jedi needs to be weakened in order for our first strike to equal 1.5x is like saying that a pint is equal to a liter, but first someone has to drink half of it.



Starsider: Denala Vik'nar BH/Pistoleer/Combat Medic
Eskie
Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:03 pm
#18



A_Lamer wrote:


Eskie wrote:


A_Lamer wrote:


Eskie wrote:
Not bull. You can pick when and where the fight will take place. Stalk your mark and wait till the Jedi is weak. Dont expect to start a fight that turns out in your favor as soon as you arrive at the waypoint your seeker gave you.



Funny, I didn't hear any devs announce that 1.5x included them having 500hp left. In that case then yes, our first strike = 1.5x. Otherwise however you're full of crap and just trying to justify the fact that the devs either think we should all be MRifleman who have sac, damage, and speed capped rifles or that the MDef MLS jedi aren't capable of taking on at least 2 BH at a time post CU.



You misunderstood the meaning of "first strike". First strike does not equal one-hit incap. And I am not justifying anything the devs do, they have to do that on their own or pay me to do it.



You misunderstood the point. I never meant it should be a 1 hit incap, however saying that the jedi needs to be weakened in order for our first strike to equal 1.5x is like saying that a pint is equal to a liter, but first someone has to drink half of it.



Your first strike should equal 0.5 - thats all. That is what you need to close the gap. And by having the ability where and when to fight you can get 0.5 hands down - just wait out and stalk till the Jedi is weak.



Eskona Runningstar
12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
Umbra_Domini
Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:09 pm
#19


The entire profession is going to be irreparably broken, if it isn't already. Made my way into the Trails today, after /bugging (again) that search still doesn't work there. Don't bother with comments that marks can use /anon. Not all do, but that's neither here nor there. Fact is, search doesn't work in the Trails. I was getting the same names across all trail instances. Another broken "feature".


Anyway, eventually found my mark among the usual suspects in feral wookieville, and after waiting an appropriate amount of time (for his health bar to drop, and so I could watch his style... and I never got a /duel... will wonders never cease?), I proceeded to do my biz on this guy, and once again had my head handed to me. Of course, having to deal withan aggroing wook at the same time as I was fighting the mark didn't help matters much. Afterward, I learned this gentleman (yes, gentleman) has almost completed his template. During the fight, his health never got below 50%. For a 155k job, the element of surprise didn't go far against somebody, theoretically, I'm supposed to be the combatant equivalent of.


So, we still have the Kashyyyk get out of jail free card for levelling. Add to that the removal of names and grouping, and limit the jobs to 3 days, and I can just see our profession leaving in droves. Why stay? Why invest the time and energy in a profession whose days are clearly intentionally numbered. Do I care whether I can see the mark's faction on the terms? Hell no! I may be an Imp, but if a mark's on the terms, he/she are there for a reason. So, save that, and give me a realistic indication of the mark's level so I can make an informed, intelligent decision on whether I want to solo this guy, or if I need help. Make the tools you've given me as part of my content "work as they're intended".


Doesn't anybody in this company ever think things through, instead of thowing out band-aid fixes right and left? If you want to fix the BH/Jedi "relationship", think it through. Think about what's wrong with it now, and what's right with it... and for God's sake, don't break something else trying to fix a current problem.


Don't make player bounties MBH only. Tie the jobs a BH can see/take to his/her level and skills... and match them to the jedi skills. If 2 or more MBHs are grouped, they draw 200k+ jobs only. Fully templated BHs going solo get 125k-200k jobs... but make sure the mark's level/skills match the BHs. Don't throw out this tripe about an MBH being roughly equivalent to a fully templated Jedi, because that's just not true. Whoever threw out that line obviously never played the BH role against a fully templated jedi... especially down in the Wookieville trails.


Lastly, instead of drawing upon IBM's old "if you can't fix it, feature it" mentality, which was so clearly the case with BH droids not working on Kashyyyk... why not make it simple and just make it so LS' don't work there, either. End of problem, and we don't have galaxies full of robe wearing, flashlight toting Obi Wans and Little Lukes running amok after using their Kashyyyk get out of jail free card.


If it sounds like I'm bitter, it's because I am. Pre-CU I won about half my battles against any level Jedi I hunted down. Now, if you're not a power gamer with 4-6 hours on your hands, you can't even find your mark half the time, let alone win. Pub 20 is going to make this even worse. Why would I take a job not having at least an approximation of my foe's skills ahead of time, and no guarantee of the job's payout BEFORE I go possibly try to solo a Knight? Who in their right mind would do that? Whatever happened to reward vs. risk and due diligence? Hell, even a wanted poster in the Post Officehas a name, and what they're wanted for.


So, to all you BHs out there, may you RIP. Our days are numbered, and soon we'll all go the way of the ID and Entertainer.



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