Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: What does a Jedi do to get on a BH Terminal?
Etyrnal
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:18 pm
#14
I like that Xp Tax. Hahhaha Didnt we fight a revolution to get rid of taxation without representation.
KeevJaseri
Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:01 pm
#16
Etyrnal wrote:Please dont keep up the Jedi hate because you do not understand the xp rate Post CU. I am in no way a power gamer, I have been a jedi since Jan and am only half way to my template. It has been figured with current solo xp rate gain for Jedi it would take 7 years of playing 3 hours a day to complete a template. This is the reason so many Jedi are now in your face in groups because no one in their right mind would do it any other way. Even in groups I still dont come close the getting the xp I did solo before the CU.
To the original poster, good luck trying to grind Jedi as a hermit (like it was pre CU) this option has effectivly been removed from the game.
This is the absolute truth. Solo grinding has been taken away from us, through no fault of our own. You guys don't understand. When you kill a BOL for 3000xp....we get maybe 800, and thats IN a group.
I wanted to stay hidden, and hate showing off...I really do. But I also wanted to be close to Knight BEFORE I have grand children and need a rocking chair.
_Crash_
Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:31 pm
#17
7500 kills is nothing. You are talking about going up an entire tree of an elite/elite profession. This was in the design of the developers to make the jedi grind soemthing that is slow and gradual over time. Exploiting bugs to make it happen in a week is not what the developers inteneded and the fact that they designed Jedi to be a long difficult path is no excuse for cheating.
Porcellus
Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:44 pm
#18
Ayu wrote:
Really that is wierd that they have to hide their powers. How would they lvl up without grouping? Since this game encourages grouping.
QFE
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:20 pm
#19
_Crash_ wrote:
7500 kills is nothing. You are talking about going up an entire tree of an elite/elite profession. This was in the design of the developers to make the jedi grind soemthing that is slow and gradual over time. Exploiting bugs to make it happen in a week is not what the developers inteneded and the fact that they designed Jedi to be a long difficult path is no excuse for cheating.
31.5 weeks. That's 20 hrs a week, 5 minutes per kill. No breaks. No travel. No BH's. I agree that there's no excuse for cheating, but 60% of a year is not reasonable.
refleks
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:36 pm
#20
_Crash_ wrote:
7500 kills is nothing. You are talking about going up an entire tree of an elite/elite profession. This was in the design of the developers to make the jedi grind soemthing that is slow and gradual over time. Exploiting bugs to make it happen in a week is not what the developers inteneded and the fact that they designed Jedi to be a long difficult path is no excuse for cheating.
There is a thin line between, a hard grind, and a ridiculously mindnumbning long grind. I don't want people exploiting and cheating their way to jedi knight, but I don't want to see my friends leave this game because of stupid grinding.
KeevJaseri
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:42 pm
#21
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
_Crash_ wrote:
7500 kills is nothing. You are talking about going up an entire tree of an elite/elite profession. This was in the design of the developers to make the jedi grind soemthing that is slow and gradual over time. Exploiting bugs to make it happen in a week is not what the developers inteneded and the fact that they designed Jedi to be a long difficult path is no excuse for cheating.
31.5 weeks. That's 20 hrs a week, 5 minutes per kill. No breaks. No travel. No BH's. I agree that there's no excuse for cheating, but 60% of a year is not reasonable.
Especially after having dedicated ANOTHER 60% (or more) of a year just to get to the starting point, as an Initiate. Yes no one can honestly say this was how it was meant to be.
topfuel
Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:51 pm
#22
KeevJaseri wrote:
Yes no one can honestly say this was how it was meant to be.
This was how it was meant to be.
Stop crying so much, I don't understand why it's so unbelievable that the Devs want a VERY slow grind.
Not all jedi are supposed to be Jedi Masters on teh Jedi Council. You are totally missing the point that Knights and Masters, etc are supposd to be EXTREMELY RARE. More rare than just a Jedi...not so much the case now, because of the massive exploits.
You are not ENTITLED to Jedi Master...stop acting like you are.
They are having to take away BH groups because so many of you full template /respec /losexploit can't fight something that fights back and if there were 2 BH's you may actually lose a straight fight. A good full template can take 4 BH's and microwave a burrito at the same time.
I've worked at the same job for 2 years and no one has made me a Dark Copy-Machine Guardian, yet. There is a staff meeting on Thursday though...so maybe that will finally be the day.
KeevJaseri
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:36 pm
#23
This was how it was meant to be.
Stop crying so much, I don't understand why it's so unbelievable that the Devs want a VERY slow grind.
Not all jedi are supposed to be Jedi Masters on teh Jedi Council. You are totally missing the point that Knights and Masters, etc are supposd to be EXTREMELY RARE. More rare than just a Jedi...not so much the case now, because of the massive exploits.
You are not ENTITLED to Jedi Master...stop acting like you are.
They are having to take away BH groups because so many of you full template /respec /losexploit can't fight something that fights back and if there were 2 BH's you may actually lose a straight fight. A good full template can take 4 BH's and microwave a burrito at the same time.
I've worked at the same job for 2 years and no one has made me a Dark Copy-Machine Guardian, yet. There is a staff meeting on Thursday though...so maybe that will finally be the day.
I don't agree with you. The CU was implemented for a lot of reasons, making the Jedi climb EVEN MORE long and difficult was not one of the reasons. It's just that Jedi were overlooked, or completely forgotten when the grouping concept to get good xp was thought of.
I have never said I wanted it handed to me on a platter, and most Jedi would agree. But think about it. It takes 30 MILLION xp + to go from Initiate to full template...that is not counting the grind to Initiate or any part of the FRS.
At the rate we gain xp, it would take years of doing nothing but grinding. And I can't believe that SOE wanted to do that to the Jedi. Slow and difficult ...yes. Never-ending .....no
TDevout
Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:54 am
#24
Ayu wrote:
Anyone know how this happens?
I am always on the terminals due to what I can only imagine is some sort of twisted game error. My jedi was on the terminals evenafter an 8 month absense. Saber was in the bank, all my Force powers un-keyed, composite armor on the jedi (had been doing pikeman before my "vacation"). SOE will not acknowledge a bug.
So what does a Jedi do to get on a BH terminal? In my experience, nothing at all.
That being said, any jedi activity - The use of Force powers, arming or igniting of a saber, or tuning a crystal will generate visibility (my current situation being what it is, I am unable to test the 32 meters idea, however I believe that most visibility is generated by PC's or NPC's viewing the activity within that range). This includes the NPC's that spawn on you without warning. Realistically, itsa lotlike rolling dice in Vegas. Anybody who claims that they are "smart enough to stay off the terminals" is either an idiot, lying, or retired.
And in my case, even retirement did nothing.
Edit - a careless mistake
Message Edited by TDevout on 06-20-2005 12:55 PM
ktanner3
Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:13 am
#25
topfuel wrote:
KeevJaseri wrote:
Yes no one can honestly say this was how it was meant to be.
This was how it was meant to be.
Stop crying so much, I don't understand why it's so unbelievable that the Devs want a VERY slow grind.
Not all jedi are supposed to be Jedi Masters on teh Jedi Council. You are totally missing the point that Knights and Masters, etc are supposd to be EXTREMELY RARE. More rare than just a Jedi...not so much the case now, because of the massive exploits.
You are not ENTITLED to Jedi Master...stop acting like you are.
They are having to take away BH groups because so many of you full template /respec /losexploit can't fight something that fights back and if there were 2 BH's you may actually lose a straight fight. A good full template can take 4 BH's and microwave a burrito at the same time.
I've worked at the same job for 2 years and no one has made me a Dark Copy-Machine Guardian, yet. There is a staff meeting on Thursday though...so maybe that will finally be the day.
Amen to that and good luck.
topfuel
Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:11 am
#26
Dude...did you ever think that they only wanted a small handful of people across ALL the servers to be full templated Jedi? I mean considering the timeline, a small handfull is still too much.
KeevJaseri wrote:
I don't agree with you. The CU was implemented for a lot of reasons, making the Jedi climb EVEN MORE long and difficult was not one of the reasons. It's just that Jedi were overlooked, or completely forgotten when the grouping concept to get good xp was thought of.
I have never said I wanted it handed to me on a platter, and most Jedi would agree. But think about it. It takes 30 MILLION xp + to go from Initiate to full template...that is not counting the grind to Initiate or any part of the FRS.
At the rate we gain xp, it would take years of doing nothing but grinding. And I can't believe that SOE wanted to do that to the Jedi. Slow and difficult ...yes. Never-ending .....no
Right now (minus exploits) it is slow and difficult. Considering that it takes months to get to initiate, why would you think that Master would come faster than that?
Most jedi DO want everything handed to them on a silver platter. I don't really care tho, it's getting to the point where the normal players are ostracizing these annoying jedi anyway. They are taking themselves out of the game by acting like idiots. The GCW is almost completely destroyed because Jedi is so easy...
For god's sake, look at how EASY it is to get glowy now! The map is stickied on the forums! THAT is the first thing that needs to go. Delete those stupid threads, let them figure it out by word of mouth. Don't post it on the OFFICIAL message boards!
That was the whole point of the stupid hologrind stuff was that people didn't know exactly what would make them go glowy. Now it may as well come with the manual.
Don't whine and cry on the BH forums about how "hard" Jedi is. I've watched 40k marks shoot up to 226k in a matter of 2 weeks since the Ryatt Trail became popular. Jedi these days suck so bad at PvP that they can't compete with a regular template so they cheat their way to full template and then feel like they are accomplishing something by beatinga single BH...FFS, a decent 150k jedi should be able to wipe the floor with a single BH. That isn't so true these days because of lack of skill not nerfs, and its hard to find the older Jedi that haven't went ahead and finished the grind to the full template.
PvE is not training to deal with a real BH.