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Dallow

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:40 am

mikeymonkey wrote:
Wait a second. We can't even go inside of our HOUSE when we have a bounty on us? What if we just feel like going in our house? Or our guild hall for a meeting or something? We can either have a BH kill us, or log off for 3 weeks?!

This is just ****ing stupid. I know that some Jedi morons abused housing but this is just ridiculous.

I can understand your guys' frustration, but what they're doing to us has got to be the most pointlessly retarded anything I've ever seen in any game.

Publish 25: Jedi are no longer able talk to other players or even move when a BH has a mission on them.

Calm down. If you do not engage the BH, you can run to a house.

Dallow Mozzer - Elder Bounty Hunter
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The House of Mantis (THoM)
"I can feel your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger." - Darth Sidious

Camrux

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:41 am

#15

mikeymonkey wrote:
Wait a second. We can't even go inside of our HOUSE when we have a bounty on us? What if we just feel like going in our house? Or our guild hall for a meeting or something? We can either have a BH kill us, or log off for 3 weeks?!

This is just ****ing stupid. I know that some Jedi morons abused housing but this is just ridiculous.

I can understand your guys' frustration, but what they're doing to us has got to be the most pointlessly retarded anything I've ever seen in any game.

Publish 25: Jedi are no longer able talk to other players or even move when a BH has a mission on them.

Uhhh,

You only activate the TEF if you attack back, it's not automatic

Marcelleus - LM Jedi and crappy rebel pilot
Camrux - MBH / MR / MM and also a crappy rebel pilot

Geauxx

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:42 am

#16

mikeymonkey wrote:
Wait a second. We can't even go inside of our HOUSE when we have a bounty on us? What if we just feel like going in our house? Or our guild hall for a meeting or something? We can either have a BH kill us, or log off for 3 weeks?!

This is just ****ing stupid. I know that some Jedi morons abused housing but this is just ridiculous.

I can understand your guys' frustration, but what they're doing to us has got to be the most pointlessly retarded anything I've ever seen in any game.

Publish 25: Jedi are no longer able talk to other players or even move when a BH has a mission on them.

Calm down. You can't enter your house if you have a BH/Jedi Combat Jedi on you.

Example #1: I take your mission and do not attack you. You can enter your house.

Example #2: I take your missiona and we engage in combat. You cannot enter you house.

Geaux Darkcloud

Bounty Hunter / Horrible Pilot / Tobacco Spitter / All Around Cajun/Tapoh's Alt

One of the Last Survivng Members of the O-o-D

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Killa-Kell-Krushin

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:43 am

#17

Dallow wrote:
Not to complain (hehe), but this gives the Trail grinders an even bigger advantage. Personally, I don't hunt the Trail because of LoS bug, but a lot of other BH do.

Of course, I have no idea how this is implemented... When will we get the name? This will most probably also affect my policy of not hunting the same jedi for a set period of time.
Message Edited by Dallow on 07-05-2005 08:39 AM

Thats the only place I can even find a bounty on my server aside from the 220+k missions

. And what happened to the thread? Was it from a Dev in the Testing Forum or just somebodies "opinion" thread?

Killa-Kell Krushin
MBH, MCarb

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Cut up so they remember me,
Soakin in Henesy so they relatives know its me..."

Camelz

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:45 am

#18

mikeymonkey wrote:
Wait a second. We can't even go inside of our HOUSE when we have a bounty on us? What if we just feel like going in our house? Or our guild hall for a meeting or something? We can either have a BH kill us, or log off for 3 weeks?!

This is just ****ing stupid. I know that some Jedi morons abused housing but this is just ridiculous.

I can understand your guys' frustration, but what they're doing to us has got to be the most pointlessly retarded anything I've ever seen in any game.

Publish 25: Jedi are no longer able talk to other players or even move when a BH has a mission on them.

It means you cant go in house if you are TEFed. You have to fight back to get a TEF, so you can go in house unless you are "Locked" in combat with a BH.

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Crash752

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:45 am

#19

Llazarus wrote:

Deathfire wrote:

Good thing

a) Jedi missions as Master Bh only yay! Glad about this.

b) House Tef-Again yay! Glad about this also

Bad Things

a) Taking away jedi names bad bad idea. I have a list of jedi I can/can't hunt due to guild relations and the like. This is going to royally waste my time on hunts where I reach the mark and find it to be a friend/guildie/allied guild.

b) Taking away the payout being equal to level thing is freaking awful. I'm sorry but most BH's cannot take out very high level jedi 1 on 1. Short of being uber or being a fotm doc. Infact this is so completely totally wrong.

c) These changes are going to basically almost eliminate BH's period from hunting jedi. I've been a Master BH since September 03 and the above changes completely put me off hunting.

d) The Devs think this is a good change? They are making the lives of jedi even easier still. Sheesh limit the amount of BH's that can hold a mission to 2 or 3. Add a elite BHing profession thats as hard to get to as jedi. Taking away our desire to hunt is not cool.

The possiblity of getting a guildies mission is very very small in my experience. Its not often I see people I know pop up on terms.

All in all good changes that were much needed.

BHs that have the right template can challenge Jedi Knights. That is a fact.

It is impossible to solo kill a full template Jedi that is Master Defender/Master Lightsaber if you are a master bounty hunter. Unless the Jedi is in combat with something else or is afk.

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GarVa

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:47 am

#20

I moved it by mistake to the visible forum, when the patch hits test
center I'll move it back and there have been some updated changes added
as well. Should be some time today

GarVa
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Dallow

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 445

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:48 am Post subject:

GarVa wrote:
I moved it by mistake to the visible forum, when the patch hits test center I'll move it back and there have been some updated changes added as well. Should be some time today

Garva to the rescue! Thanks for the quick response. At least we know it's officially coming.

Dallow Mozzer - Elder Bounty Hunter
Dark Force Rising
The House of Mantis (THoM)
"I can feel your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger." - Darth Sidious

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Eskie

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 2842

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:49 am Post subject:

Deathfire wrote:

Good thing

a) Jedi missions as Master Bh only yay! Glad about this.

b) House Tef-Again yay! Glad about this also

Bad Things

a) Taking away jedi names bad bad idea. I have a list of jedi I can/can't hunt due to guild relations and the like. This is going to royally waste my time on hunts where I reach the mark and find it to be a friend/guildie/allied guild.

b) Taking away the payout being equal to level thing is freaking awful. I'm sorry but most BH's cannot take out very high level jedi 1 on 1. Short of being uber or being a fotm doc. Infact this is so completely totally wrong.

c) These changes are going to basically almost eliminate BH's period from hunting jedi. I've been a Master BH since September 03 and the above changes completely put me off hunting.

d) The Devs think this is a good change? They are making the lives of jedi even easier still. Sheesh limit the amount of BH's that can hold a mission to 2 or 3. Add a elite BHing profession thats as hard to get to as jedi. Taking away our desire to hunt is not cool.

Concerning your bad things list, items a) and b):

Names got taken off because some BHs were targeting the same Jedi over and over, others were waiting for a PvP battle, got Jedi names relayed to them and went there as combatants.
Payouts are not related to skill points spent in Jedi skills anymore because some BHs were abusing this system to bottom-feed. All I can say people got what they deserved for abusing systems.

Overall a good patch - as soon as I can actually see it. The original post was linking to the "In Live" forum, im waiting for the patch notes to appear in "In Testing - Dev"

*Edit* GarVa just posted - /poke GarVa; /say Any ETA?

Message Edited by Eskie on 07-05-2005 05:52 PM

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Lotussutol

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 868

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:50 am Post subject:

Test Center and TC-Bloodfin
Version 0.

Based upon feedback from the Correspondents and Fan Fest attendees the Entertainer profession will receive a new music and dance icon as well as 6 new entertainer abilities. Read on for more details.

Profession: Entertainer
New Dance
Bunduki (an interpretive dance from the planet on which the Teras Kasi fighting style originated)
New Song
Swing
Add new particles to old healing branch
New dance particles:
Center Stage
Color Swirl
Dance Floor
New music particles:
Featured Solo
Laser Show
Fire Jet 2
Fix ed exotic flourishes so they now function properly
Battle Fatigue is no longer acquired and entertainers can no longer heal it.
Entertainer's and elite professions' skill branches have been reworked to accommodate these changes.
Add props to old healing branch
Dance props
Staff
Sword
Sparkler
Glowstick
Torch
Ribbon
Double Ribbon
Mystical Ribbon
Double Mystical Ribbon
Sparkle Ribbon
Double Sparkle Ribbon
Also, at novice dancer or higher, dancers can duel wield props.

Profession: Image Designer
Image Designers will no longer see other players avatars in the user interface as swimming

Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will now be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout

Profession: Scout

Phecnacine Dart will no longer cause creatures AI to turn off

Profession: Pilots

Pilots that drop a pilot profession will no longer lose an extra 10% experience if they have an inspiration buff.

Profession: Jedi

FS Village, Phase 4:
Increased the frequency of the Sith Shadow Pirates spawn to make the Village Assault (Ranged Speed / Melee Defense) quest is now easier to complete
Players that are using force cloaked will no longer be targetable
Jedi heals will no longer cost Force and Mind if the target does not require healing

Armor / Weapons

Fixed an Issue with the Mabari Gloves

UI

Removed the version number from the splash screen. If you would like to retrieve the version number, press CTRL+SHIFT+G in game.
Master Badges will now be granted during the token respec period
Fixed the range indicator so it packs down when HAM bars are invisible.

GCW

Reduce TEF timer to 2.5 minutes.
Combat between a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission will result in a "bounty hunter TEF". No other TEF (such as factional TEF, for example) is applied. The "bounty hunter TEF" will prevent both the bounty hunter and Jedi from entering player structures, and will eject the player from a player structure if the TEF is received while the player is in the player structure.
Guild war pvp no longer results in a TEF, unless the combatants are a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission, in which case it will result in a "bounty hunter TEF".
Opposing factional TEF and "bounty hunter TEF" are applied to both combatants as soon as any of the combatants attacks.

Quests / Loot
Mellichae now drops his cyborg arm as loot.
Mellichae and Daktar Bloodmoon now drop more appropriate loot.
NPC Jedi can now drop medpacks, clothing, and pistols as loot.

AI

Fixed an error case where AI would emit a "?" over its head when a non-threat approached.
Pets: If a pet attacks a mob, the mob will now also be aggressive to the pet's master. So if you send a pet on a mob, and the pet dies, the mob will attack you. If you send your pet to attack a lair, mobs from the lair will additionally attack you.
Pets: Pets now inherit the same aggro radius reduction as their master. Previously a lvl 80 player with a lvl 40 pet could possibly have an AI aggro the pet, but not the player. Now the pet has the same aggro radius as the player.
Pets: A pet can no longer pull a mob without getting within the aggro radius of or attacking a mob. Previously just telling a pet to attack a mob initiated the pet and the mob in combat instantly.
Pets: A pet no longer stops attacking a lair (or any immobile AI) after a short period of time. They will continue to attack as ordered.
Pets: Fixed a case where pets could lose their ranged weapons when incapped and not regain the weapon until stored/recalled.

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Jimborinius

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 536

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:54 am Post subject:

Camrux wrote:

mikeymonkey wrote:
Wait a second. We can't even go inside of our HOUSE when we have a bounty on us? What if we just feel like going in our house? Or our guild hall for a meeting or something? We can either have a BH kill us, or log off for 3 weeks?!

This is just ****ing stupid. I know that some Jedi morons abused housing but this is just ridiculous.

I can understand your guys' frustration, but what they're doing to us has got to be the most pointlessly retarded anything I've ever seen in any game.

Publish 25: Jedi are no longer able talk to other players or even move when a BH has a mission on them.

Uhhh,

You only activate the TEF if you attack back, it's not automatic

not true:

GCW

Reduce TEF timer to 2.5 minutes.
Combat between a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission will result in a "bounty hunter TEF". No other TEF (such as factional TEF, for example) is applied. The "bounty hunter TEF" will prevent both the bounty hunter and Jedi from entering player structures, and will eject the player from a player structure if the TEF is received while the player is in the player structure.
Guild war pvp no longer results in a TEF, unless the combatants are a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission, in which case it will result in a "bounty hunter TEF".
Opposing factional TEF and "bounty hunter TEF" are applied to both combatants as soon as any of the combatants attacks.

This means it only takes one to attack and both get tefs.

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xur-soma

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 627

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:56 am Post subject:

Jedi_Xan wrote:

Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box

Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout

Hmm. Wow, looks like you gotta pay to play. How many of you guys are not MASTER BH's? Oopps, your jedi hunting days are over.

Message Edited by Jedi_Xan on 07-05-2005 10:21 AM

wow! just thought I would read this post on the new changes, I have yet to run into a MBH that is any good, but only time will tell i guess. I must say i dont like that change I think its to limiting on BH temps. That means the best BH on our server IMOis SOL and I dont have to worry about him anymore! for me that a bad thing.

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Dallow

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 445

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:56 am Post subject:

Jimborinius wrote:

Opposing factional TEF and "bounty hunter TEF" are applied to both combatants as soon as any of the combatants attacks.

This means it only takes one to attack and both get tefs.

Wow. I stand corrected. That's not how it used to work. That kind of sucks for jedi that do not wish to fight and, imho, is a bit unfair.

Dallow Mozzer - Elder Bounty Hunter
Dark Force Rising
The House of Mantis (THoM)
"I can feel your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger." - Darth Sidious

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rjtails23

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 168

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:59 am Post subject:

bah...there goes the dabble in BH jedi hunter template

it makes sense, but I'll be sad to have to drop some other skills to be able to hunt jedi

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Deathfire

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 164

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:01 am Post subject:

Eskie wrote:

Deathfire wrote:

Good thing

a) Jedi missions as Master Bh only yay! Glad about this.

b) House Tef-Again yay! Glad about this also

Bad Things

a) Taking away jedi names bad bad idea. I have a list of jedi I can/can't hunt due to guild relations and the like. This is going to royally waste my time on hunts where I reach the mark and find it to be a friend/guildie/allied guild.

b) Taking away the payout being equal to level thing is freaking awful. I'm sorry but most BH's cannot take out very high level jedi 1 on 1. Short of being uber or being a fotm doc. Infact this is so completely totally wrong.

c) These changes are going to basically almost eliminate BH's period from hunting jedi. I've been a Master BH since September 03 and the above changes completely put me off hunting.

d) The Devs think this is a good change? They are making the lives of jedi even easier still. Sheesh limit the amount of BH's that can hold a mission to 2 or 3. Add a elite BHing profession thats as hard to get to as jedi. Taking away our desire to hunt is not cool.

Concerning your bad things list, items a) and b):

Names got taken off because some BHs were targeting the same Jedi over and over, others were waiting for a PvP battle, got Jedi names relayed to them and went there as combatants.
Payouts are not related to skill points spent in Jedi skills anymore because some BHs were abusing this system to bottom-feed. All I can say people got what they deserved for abusing systems.

Overall a good patch - as soon as I can actually see it. The original post was linking to the "In Live" forum, im waiting for the patch notes to appear in "In Testing - Dev"

*Edit* GarVa just posted - /poke GarVa; /say Any ETA?

Message Edited by Eskie on 07-05-2005 05:52 PM

Concerning your observations wouldnt a timer on a bh takign a jedi mission of the same name be much more beneficial? Heck put a 24 hour timer on a samed name mission (Bh takes mission on john, BH dies/aborts the mission, BH can no longer take mission on john for 24 hours.) Thats how I would do it personally.

Fair enough about the PVP battle thing, but I myself take out the stronger jedi I see involved in pvp of any type by getting the mission and watching and waiting for a oppurtunity for me to strike. Basically now they are taking away BH's options of doing this.

Heck last night I was refreshing the terminals and a good 70-80% of the missions were jedi at the 225k bounty mark. I myself short of shooting them in the back when they are busy theed dueling am not capable at tkaing one down 1 on 1 as pretty much most BH's cant. So basically 70-80% of my time is going to be spent hitting jedi marks that I dont have a chance in hell of winning.

Heck why dont they just make it so you have to be worth at least 100k (100sp) in jedi before you can even get on the terminals.

Iam very concerned by the devs thought processes on these changes because they just dont seem to make sense. You'll see how much ya like the changes if they go live...

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Daikatsu

Joined: 24 Sep 2022
Posts: 136

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:08 am Post subject:

GarVa wrote:
I moved it by mistake to the visible forum, when the patch hits test center I'll move it back and there have been some updated changes added as well. Should be some time today

I thought it was odd that a patch notes from Sunday with these kinds of changes weren't being discussed anywhere.

Oh well...I like the new term system, however it should be filtered by your faction...rebs hunt neut and imp jedi, and vice versa. Of course neutrals always hunt whoever they want.

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Camrux

Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:08 am

#21

Tanks is gonna have a cow when he sees this

Marcelleus - LM Jedi and crappy rebel pilot
Camrux - MBH / MR / MM and also a crappy rebel pilot

Dallow

Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:09 am

#22

Camrux wrote:
Tanks is gonna have a cow when he sees this

MaybeSOE sent him on that sailing trip...

Dallow Mozzer - Elder Bounty Hunter
Dark Force Rising
The House of Mantis (THoM)
"I can feel your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger." - Darth Sidious

Saarkai

Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:10 am

#23

Camrux wrote:
Tanks is gonna have a cow when he sees this

I would hope so. I can deal with all of these changes except for the removing of the names. That's just stupid! We'll be hunting down guildmates and same factioned jedi. And forget about hunting anyone on kashyyyk

Saarkai - Rebel Ace Pilot - Flurry

Acheron5

Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:11 am

#24

I'd like clarification on this from anyone who knows for certain and isn't making an assumption.

It seems clear that Jedi will now be anonymous on BH terminals. What is unclear is if the Jedi will be anonymous after the mission has been accepted. That is, will the Jedi's name appear on the datapad entry or waypoint for that mission once the mission has been accepted or the probot/seeker scan has been completed?

Jedi_Xan

Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:13 am

#25

Regarding no Jedi names and amounts. All bets, alliances, treaties with any faction, guild, person are off. I will hunt whatever mission I get, and it will result in a payout. Jedi got what they wanted, now I will hunt as I want.

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gera

Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:13 am

#26

Camrux wrote:
Tanks is gonna have a cow when he sees this

He was supporter of name/payout removal and housesitting too. I don't think he will be sad about changes.

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