Bounty Hunter Archive

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Oss_Wilum wrote:

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Fugley wrote:

I'm going to venture a guess and say that everyone has heard that with the new publish tomorrow heals will also have an action cost, instead of just mind.

Heals are a big issue for us, and now that its going to take a pool that we DESPERATELY require, this is going to hurt us badly.

Now this also affects Jedi, but they already have advantages on us:

1. They have buffs that we can't compare to, it requires Force but a lot of Jedi have holocrons to compensate for that.


2. Some of their sabers do more damage than even our best weapons.


3. Their heals, though also going to require action, heal more HP than ours.

Now I'm not an AMAZING Jedi hunter, but a lot of my strategy revolves around healing myself, and out lasting the Jedi. And with this sort-of-nerf, MCMs are gonna be screwed also.

So whats the point in adding this in on the next publish? Any people in testcenter know ANY benefit to this?

-Shrug-

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actually, all of those points are pretty much wrong.

Jedi's +20 combat haste > doctor haste which you can get anywhere from afk bots, in concert with the other doc buffs.

what other buffs do you mean? aura? pfft, how could you beat any melee at all if aura was so much of a problem?

saber issue: i've seen 500+ min crafted trandos, my saber is awesome for post-cu (i stocked up on premiums pre-cu) and with 593-697 damage, the trandoshan hunting rifle really shows it's colors. the majority of jedi are now post-cu unlockers who have sabers of usually 300-500 damage ranges, which suck so completely.

And since no one gets master healer because it sucks, the only heal a jedi has that would heal for more than a 4000 CM or MCM, total heal (with it's absolutely outrageous costs), is a non factor and the 4000 CM build heals more than a 4000 Healer jedi does (bactashot with a droid = 1600+, you cana also bactajab or toss in the interval of time).

So all those points are pretty much faulty.

Jedi's ACTUAL advantage comes from the range of abilities we have (my template has a snare, root, ranged KD, and some decent power specials) as well as forcerun, but now your snares will undo my forcerun, shich should allow you to stay out of the 32m saberthrow range.

With the movement changes, you shouldn't need to heal as much, and if you do, then you need to re-evaluate your template.

since jedi will no longer be able to effectively close the distance, open up with a snare at your max range or with cyber arms and if we're in the open we should be kite-bait. I however am still confident that i'll be able to use terrain to my advantage or capitalize onunskilled BH who allow snares, roots, and KDs to fail at keeping me out of 32 m. If i can get you into the 32m you're probably going to die.

IMO, you should be happy with publish 24, movement changes are totally changing the game.

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Fugley wrote:

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Oss_Wilum wrote:

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Fugley wrote:

I'm going to venture a guess and say that everyone has heard that with the new publish tomorrow heals will also have an action cost, instead of just mind.

Heals are a big issue for us, and now that its going to take a pool that we DESPERATELY require, this is going to hurt us badly.

Now this also affects Jedi, but they already have advantages on us:

1. They have buffs that we can't compare to, it requires Force but a lot of Jedi have holocrons to compensate for that.


2. Some of their sabers do more damage than even our best weapons.


3. Their heals, though also going to require action, heal more HP than ours.

Now I'm not an AMAZING Jedi hunter, but a lot of my strategy revolves around healing myself, and out lasting the Jedi. And with this sort-of-nerf, MCMs are gonna be screwed also.

So whats the point in adding this in on the next publish? Any people in testcenter know ANY benefit to this?

-Shrug-

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actually, all of those points are pretty much wrong.

Jedi's +20 combat haste > doctor haste which you can get anywhere from afk bots, in concert with the other doc buffs.

what other buffs do you mean? aura? pfft, how could you beat any melee at all if aura was so much of a problem?

saber issue: i've seen 500+ min crafted trandos, my saber is awesome for post-cu (i stocked up on premiums pre-cu) and with 593-697 damage, the trandoshan hunting rifle really shows it's colors. the majority of jedi are now post-cu unlockers who have sabers of usually 300-500 damage ranges, which suck so completely.

And since no one gets master healer because it sucks, the only heal a jedi has that would heal for more than a 4000 CM or MCM, total heal (with it's absolutely outrageous costs), is a non factor and the 4000 CM build heals more than a 4000 Healer jedi does (bactashot with a droid = 1600+, you cana also bactajab or toss in the interval of time).

So all those points are pretty much faulty.

Jedi's ACTUAL advantage comes from the range of abilities we have (my template has a snare, root, ranged KD, and some decent power specials) as well as forcerun, but now your snares will undo my forcerun, shich should allow you to stay out of the 32m saberthrow range.

With the movement changes, you shouldn't need to heal as much, and if you do, then you need to re-evaluate your template.

since jedi will no longer be able to effectively close the distance, open up with a snare at your max range or with cyber arms and if we're in the open we should be kite-bait. I however am still confident that i'll be able to use terrain to my advantage or capitalize onunskilled BH who allow snares, roots, and KDs to fail at keeping me out of 32 m. If i can get you into the 32m you're probably going to die.

IMO, you should be happy with publish 24, movement changes are totally changing the game.

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(Yellow) When our buffs run out we can't rebuff like you guys can, unless we have Master Doc in our templates, and I only know ONE MBH who has that, and he isn't big on PvP. And the caliber of your buffs BLOWS AWAY doctor buffs. So IMO this point is not "faulty".

(Reddish) As BHs use pistols, carbines, and rifles, you point only applies to rifles. I prefer to use pistols, so maybe this was just a mirror of MY problem, but I'm sure a lot of other BHs use pistols as well.

(Purple) "...where do you get your delusions, laser-brains?" This may also be me mirroring my own problem, but Jedi seem to have better heals in general.

Fact IS Jedi can overpower us, and the only thing STOPPING that is heals. Kiting shouldn't be the only way to kill a Jedi or "combat" these nerfs.

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Action cost have been removed oh and how do I make a clicky