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Thread: How long...

gtheath
Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:35 am
#14
Don't worry, most of the bhs these days are 'fair weather' hunters. Our numbers will decrease as the children who can't take a challenge leave the profession.
darksithmage
Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:38 pm
#15

Hard to say, cause there is no way to classify average really, everyone will have their own ideas of what average is. However, I'd take average to mean you can at least devote 1 buff session a day to gaining force exp. With a good melee template with aoe attacks, you can max out weapons exp and gain 90k combat exp about every 1.5 hours or less. which translates to 120k FS exp a day. So if a person does this everyday, you can make 1 branch of FS combat related skills just about every 10 days. You need 6 to qualify for the padawan trials. HOWEVER you can only unlock 1 of those trees every 3 weeks, so that's 3x6= 18 weeks. You're looking at roughly 6-7 months at least. starting from scratch with no unlocks.

Message Edited by darksithmage on 09-18-2004 02:39 PM



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RevonLuxa
Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:45 pm
#16




Anosa wrote:

how long will it take the avergae player to get a sabar in his hand?





Actually if your able to grind all the exp needed to train each

f.s. skill branch as you unlock them via the quests you can

potentially have a training saber by Jan. 4, 2005 @ the earliest.


That is assuming you are starting with no free unlocks and

can grind enough exp to be able to train your last f.s. skill

branch the same day the 6th round of village phases goes

live. (second pass of phase 2). And also assuming you

get your 2nd "old man" visit, complete your exit quest, AND

get through half the padawan trials on the same day


Either way, best of luck on your path to jedi.


Rev
darksithmage
Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:47 pm
#17
Maybe, I was just accounting for downtime, those breaks we all need to avoid going crazy and burning out. 4 months seems reasonable but that's a lot of grinding hehe.



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"No, I don't use a saber anymore. I prefer to blast holes in people's skulls these days"
Vse
Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:00 pm
#18
theres just too many jedi's hehe and have padawan by 7th is pushing thats like everything goes perfectly hehe mine didnt and took me 3 days but yeah if your lucky to get everything right away 1 day after . just dont want people to think its super quickly done .... its kinda fast but its so boring i mean the bike rides... fell asleep a few times !!!



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Saruun_Mortuus
Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:12 pm
#19
How long can a jedi stack Avoid Incap? Simple question...




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Sirisandir
Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:13 pm
#20
Untill they run out of force... avoid incap lasts for 45seconds but its stackable..



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Saruun_Mortuus
Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:31 pm
#21
Yeah, I ran into a Jedi stacking it for quite a while today, I was under the impression it was sort of a "last ditch" thing, but I'm pretty sure he had it on a macro... And I've never experience this in any of my prior hunts. This guys payout was 209K not even 225K. Actually I think I could have beat him, but I screwed up. But I guess if I never screwed up I'd never lose, right?

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CityHall
Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:58 am
#22
How long do you figure before the pilot community turns on the YT-2400?

I have seen it happen with all of the ROtW ships, (even the ARC-170 a.k.a. the X-Wing's "special" cousin) it has even happened to certan JTL ships. (A-Wing... hello?)

It realy doesn't matter how in or out of balance it is going to be... could be exactly like the YT-1300...how long do you think it will take for people to start whining about it?

Or perhaps the new component scematics I have heard rumors about... are we going to start whatching each other for using unbalanced components? Will the QID be next on the altar of fairness?

P.S. I am not here to disscus balance on the ROtW ships... it has been done to death... I am just speculating on how pilots will respond to new content... regardless of what it is.



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LeaphChausew
Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:41 am
#23

Well regardless of what is released, I am certain nothing short of uber strength shields and awesomeatron9000 lvl 15cannons will make the game any more unbalancedthan it already iscomponent wise. I mean, yeh we have JSFs and even those packed with super elite hardcore gear, but I see noone using them to their full potential as me and my A-wing (which should be obsolete when compared to a fully uber'ified JSF) is doing fine and will continue to. Nice try on dragging A-wings into the equation but in this day and age, A-wings are anything but unbalanced no matter how well they're equipped as sacrifices still need to be made with them. I know it wasn't a personal dig at me, but while today I have a bee in my bonnet, I'll nit pick for the sake of nit picking (no personal offence intended. I'm just sitting here, trying to maintain faith in the game).


Also, I don't like this thread because its starting off what will inevitably be another six months of complaining about new parts and ship. The tone of this thread seems to be 'oh no, not more whining' but I'm afraid this is just the catalyst which will envokeeven more whining about the same oldsubjects,therefore being somewhat contradictory in context and discourse.


Whatever happens, those who can, will adapt. I'll personally try and keep with my mantra of playing how I and what I consider most people's oppinions of fairly. There will always be people who want the quickest, easiest way to 'pwn' people but /shrug, I'm too busy to take any notice of them and they don't usually do a very good job of it anyway(short of EP3 and loadcamping)since with the hasty attitude also often comes a tendency to forget the specifics..such as flying talent and overall prowess.


As for the YT-2400, I couldn't care less. As long as its a POB, it will be easy to kill even after publish 24. 10k shields only mean a few extra hits with blasters after all in pvp...

I think they look kind of cool, but I doubt I'll fly one since I don't even fly any of the existing POBs unless I am held at blaster point.


On the flip side, if the expansion does include some nice quest reward parts which are reverse engineerable which will improve the workings and performance of my A-wing, then I will most likely buy it. My aim has evolved somewhat now. It isn't to fly an A-wing as a one finger salute at rotw ships, but in order to make that 66k mass worth of ship as deadly as possible without exploiting in anyway along with learning the ship to the full. I still learn somthing everyday about that Starfighter no matter how subtle.


I guess what I'm trying to say is that, rather than blasting SOE for every mistake they make, because they do have a tendency to ignore the pilot community, just live with it and make yourway as best you can. If you need a JSF to compete...fine. If you need an RG TIE..fine. If you use re'd components.. GOOD you're at least learning somthing. My only quarrel will be against Epulse use in pvp and loadcamping.


I have no time for oppinions on 'how good such and such is' or who is exploiting or not /shrug*. I -know- a good pilot when I see one at heart and no amount of complaining or debate will change that because I and many others out here have experience. Experience is your greatest asset and your best friend. It also gives you justification and power over those who know squat which is always handy.


*You may call me a hippocritsaying I have no time for complaining,but I still stand by my oppinion that Epulse as it stands in pvpbe nay kosher along with load camping. I guess my view is. If it is a thing which does take an iota of conscious skill and effort to use..then use it. Even an RG TIE takes actual brain processes to fly. Epulse and Loadcamping don't, therefor, I don't agree with their usage.


As always, I have mixed feelings.

CityHall
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:01 am
#24
You are right perhaps this thread should go away...

One thing you misunderstood is that I am an A-Wing pilot... I don't feel they are unbalenced at all otherwise I would't fly one.

You are 100% right it is all the pilot not the ship. (well a little the ship but who do you think built it?)

Maybe I have a chip on my shoulder from all the whinning I have gotten cought up in recently...

P.S. Heck... I want the YT-2400 added for the sake of it's fans and frankly I don't want to "blast" anyone ('cept in PvP you understand)... maybe I need a thicker skin if I am going to keep flying in PvP events...



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LeaphChausew
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:35 am
#25




CityHall wrote:
You are right perhaps this thread should go away...

One thing you misunderstood is that I am an A-Wing pilot... I don't feel they are unbalenced at all otherwise I would't fly one.

You are 100% right it is all the pilot not the ship. (well a little the ship but who do you think built it?)

Maybe I have a chip on my shoulder from all the whinning I have gotten cought up in recently...

P.S. Heck... I want the YT-2400 added for the sake of it's fans and frankly I don't want to "blast" anyone ('cept in PvP you understand)... maybe I need a thicker skin if I am going to keep flying in PvP events...




Its cool. Sorry, I come over rather...er..'Hitler like' in my oppinions at times. I understand where you're coming from certainly, but I am kind of bored with the same old subjects of 'balance' and 'components/ships being bugged etc' coming up all the time. I basically put out strong oppinions so as to inspire debate or if I'm feeling particularly masochistic, a good old flaming aimed at myself


I'm even inclined to start thinking that people think things like that since they are to proud to accept the fact that the problem lies with them. I mean, ok, ok...as I said, EP3 is somthing I do have an issue with because it takes no skill to use effectively, BUT as far as the JSF etc go, means do still exist within the game which make ships like the A-wing and hell even the Y-wing competitive in pvp. The evidence behind this is pilots like you and myself in A-wings and hell, Pace and Attacca who fly standard Interceptors and succeed. Now, when I hear allegations such as 'oh this ship is obviously unfair and a game breaking game..fix it Now' is kind of stupid. Yep, I accept that newer, less experienced pilots have a hard time becoming competitive, but hell so did I when I first started. For my first three/four months of pvp I could have earned the badge of 'Fodder'. I didn't cry nerf though. I simply got better.


It takes time and people as a whole are too impatient. ROTW ships aren't so much the issue as much as people are. It is ironic since the pilot community was always viewed as a little more...considerate and possibly enlightened as a profession in the past. We used skill to learn our craft and now people wish for an easy ride. The fact is..and this is where irony comes into play is that the rotw ships offer that easy ride. It couldn't be any easier short of being utterly ridiculous (whether it is already is debateable).


Now people who think they're good will do just fine with a pre-rotw ship and overcme a JSF no matter how good the opposition is. Proof of this is myself. I'm not the best, but I have at least proved that it CAN be done. People who can't quite adapt obviously aren't as awesome as they once thought an personally I see no shame in movign with the times and flying one of the better ships. So no arguement/complaint there.


As for new pilots or those pilots with about as much spatial as an aphrodiziac pumped Twi lek dancing girl on crack, who don't find success even with a JSF, then the answer is to stop complaining. The option to fly a ship on a par with the JSF is there. It isn't exactly hard to get one and the fact that you 'might' wish to fly somthing different is irrelevant. Its like if I said "Damn the world. Its round...I want it to be flat so I could stand on the tallest hill and see Australia".


The fact of the matter is that if the rotw ships were so unnaturally evil and frightening, then noone would stick to their pre-rotw ships, not even myself. I did in the beginning out of stubbornness, but had I been proven that the A-wing truly stood no chance in hell, well I would have probably have quit due to there really being a problem. The fact they can compete..along with a great deal of other pre-rotw ships (not always with super flash components) says a great deal for this ongoing debate and how pointless it really is.

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