Bounty Hunter Archive

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Gillik wrote:
Hey all the ranged ones were forced to go melee to fight jedi pre CU.

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Last I checked this was again due to FOTM wh0ring, if you're refering to the BH/TKM defense stacker phase. Which didn't prevent a person from picking up a template they wanted, only made them less viable. This prevents me from picking up a template I want, AND makes me less viable because some genious thought it would be cool to make it so rifleman is the only solution.

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NarfBlinko wrote:

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A_Lamer wrote:

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Gillik wrote:
How does it bottle neck good templates. BH doesnt need any prerequisite masteries anymore.

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Maybe the fact that as the OP stated melee templates are completely non viable if MBH whores 70% of their skill points? And how exactly is forcing a jedi hunter to take MBH opening up possibilities? At least as it is now I could drop mbh and actually do something BESIDES jedi hunt. As I editted into my previous post, I don't want to have to drop MPistols, as I love the profession and don't want to be like some rifleman who picks it up only for the root.

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Last I checked, MBH = 121sp = ~48.4% of the available 250sp. I'm not saying that 129sp is enough to make a viable melee 2nd profession, and I agree that none of the skills in the BH trees help melee, but at least do your math before firing off statistical claims. BTW, as a BH, why the heck would you WANT to be in melee range with aprofession that is melee focused (aka Padawan)?

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Some of us just like fighting close-quarters head to head, not kiting..

I just have to add, Why not let players customize their Stuff like it has always been..Its in no way hurting Ranged BHing Etc...

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StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

Tanks, For a long time i have been an Melee BH,I love it no matter how worthless melee is claimed to be now.Can you please let the devs know that many Investigation IV/Melee BH enjoy their customized templates.

With the changes of moving Player bounties to MBH it will end the customization of melee BHing etc..

If the changes are bought to, it is possible to be MBH/one melee Prof, But it will be very weak and eveything in the BH Trees will be worthless because it does not benefit Melee at all.

Can we try to atleast get some melee Feats in some BH Trees,Maybed even MBH if the changes are brought to ,to move player bounties there.

It is sad to be forced to be a ranged BH when you really desire to be pure Melee.

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You make a very good case.

I don't like the way BH is being channeled towards Ranged only either. We also don't have a real clear answer yet from the devs why its being moved to Master BH other than people speculating that its to make Master BH count. Problem is...Master BH commits you to being a ranged guy.

It all starts with the pre-reqs being aRanged Supportand Exploration. Maybe if they made it so that you neededExploration and one branch in either Melee or Ranged...your choice...than if you took Novice BH, your BH tree would than be converted to either Melee or Ranged BH specials and mods. If they did this...moving Jedi hunting to Master would be more reasonable.

My guess is though, that they are making it so BH are all ranged to ease whatever balancing challenges they might be wrestling with for the BH -vs- Jedi PvP.

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NarfBlinko wrote:

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A_Lamer wrote:

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Gillik wrote:
How does it bottle neck good templates. BH doesnt need any prerequisite masteries anymore.

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Maybe the fact that as the OP stated melee templates are completely non viable if MBH whores 70% of their skill points? And how exactly is forcing a jedi hunter to take MBH opening up possibilities? At least as it is now I could drop mbh and actually do something BESIDES jedi hunt. As I editted into my previous post, I don't want to have to drop MPistols, as I love the profession and don't want to be like some rifleman who picks it up only for the root.

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Last I checked, MBH = 121sp = ~48.4% of the available 250sp. I'm not saying that 129sp is enough to make a viable melee 2nd profession, and I agree that none of the skills in the BH trees help melee, but at least do your math before firing off statistical claims. BTW, as a BH, why the heck would you WANT to be in melee range with a profession that is melee focused (aka Padawan)?

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Never claimed that number was correct, I was just remembering looking back to my attempted builds at MBH/Mmelee and fainting due to only being able to squeeze in that master melee and a novice box of any other melee profession (insufficient) where as I can squeeze in 2 ranged and a line or two of another profession. Hence I calculated it something like 70%.

As for why someone would choose melee.. if they go TKM, thats 60% inate damage reduction, plus if they didn't have MBH they could squeeze in doctor or CM for awsome healing. With a good knuckler/sword you're looking at some nice damage and defensive abilities. Far more viable than many people make it out to be.

Edit: and by "2 ranged" I included MBH. I'm tired.

Message Edited by A_Lamer on 07-12-2005 12:36 AM

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Valkyrie36 wrote:

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StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

Tanks, For a long time i have been an Melee BH,I love it no matter how worthless melee is claimed to be now.Can you please let the devs know that many Investigation IV/Melee BH enjoy their customized templates.

With the changes of moving Player bounties to MBH it will end the customization of melee BHing etc..

If the changes are bought to, it is possible to be MBH/one melee Prof, But it will be very weak and eveything in the BH Trees will be worthless because it does not benefit Melee at all.

Can we try to atleast get some melee Feats in some BH Trees,Maybed even MBH if the changes are brought to ,to move player bounties there.

It is sad to be forced to be a ranged BH when you really desire to be pure Melee.

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You make a very good case.

I don't like the way BH is being channeled towards Ranged only either. We also don't have a real clear answer yet from the devs why its being moved to Master BH other than people speculating that its to make Master BH count. Problem is...Master BH commits you to being a ranged guy.

It all starts with the pre-reqs being aRanged Supportand Exploration. Maybe if they made it so that you neededExploration and one branch in either Melee or Ranged...your choice...than if you took Novice BH, your BH tree would than be converted to either Melee or Ranged BH specials and mods. If they did this...moving Jedi hunting to Master would be more reasonable.

My guess is though, that they are making it so BH are all ranged to ease whatever balancing challenges they might be wrestling with for the BH -vs- Jedi PvP.

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QFE

I dont understand why some of these people are bagging on your post. I'm a ranged BH but if people want to be a melee BH then by all means they should be able to. I don't see why every BH in the whole galaxy has to be ranged.

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walker60 wrote:

I dont understand why some of these people are bagging on your post. I'm a ranged BH but if people want to be a melee BH then by all means they should be able to. I don't see why every BH in the whole galaxy has to be ranged.

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Thank you for constructive input, qfe.

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StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

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Farenheit wrote:

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StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

Tanks, For a long time i have been an Melee BH,I love it no matter how worthless melee is claimed to be now.Can you please let the devs know that many Investigation IV/Melee BH enjoy their customized templates.

With the changes of moving Player bounties to MBH it will end the customization of melee BHing etc..

If the changes are bought to, it is possible to be MBH/one melee Prof, But it will be very weak and eveything in the BH Trees will be worthless because it does not benefit Melee at all.

Can we try to atleast get some melee Feats in some BH Trees,Maybed even MBH if the changes are brought to ,to move player bounties there.

It is sad to be forced to be a ranged BH when you really desire to be pure Melee.

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Ummm no.

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Wow and what are your reasons beside no, Wait wait since your trolling my post how about this jedi, how about Jedi be forced to what they were in public 9, nothing but jedi all in one trees/profession their was no defender or anything,all you had to be was just acheieve jedi guardian,please dont post at all if you have nothing constructive fahreinheit.

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Farenheit wrote:

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StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

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Farenheit wrote:

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StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

Tanks, For a long time i have been an Melee BH,I love it no matter how worthless melee is claimed to be now.Can you please let the devs know that many Investigation IV/Melee BH enjoy their customized templates.

With the changes of moving Player bounties to MBH it will end the customization of melee BHing etc..

If the changes are bought to, it is possible to be MBH/one melee Prof, But it will be very weak and eveything in the BH Trees will be worthless because it does not benefit Melee at all.

Can we try to atleast get some melee Feats in some BH Trees,Maybed even MBH if the changes are brought to ,to move player bounties there.

It is sad to be forced to be a ranged BH when you really desire to be pure Melee.

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Ummm no.

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Wow and what are your reasons beside no, Wait wait since your trolling my post how about this jedi, how about Jedi be forced to what they were in public 9, nothing but jedi all in one trees/profession their was no defender or anything,all you had to be was just acheieve jedi guardian,please dont post at all if you have nothing constructive fahreinheit.

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Most of us jedi would gladly take that system back... There was no defender because defenses were done differently..... And light saber had wicked block back then, and oh, our sabers were actually the most powerful weapon in the game as they should be.

If you wish for this, no problem!

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I'd take it back if it came with pre 19 damage sabers and block being more like 50% with a 40% chance of reflecting (null point for the reportedly "unviable" meleers, since last I checked a lightsaber couldn't repel a fist) since ranged weapon damage is now much higher than it used to be.

I'm GLAD player bounties is moving to MBH, there's templates out there such as hybrid BH/Jedi that gives BH AND Jedi a bad name, and since the beginning of doawn on BH 3000/TKM. I was a MBH/MSwords for a while, held up very well, nothing is stopping you from going as a melee BH.

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SpunkyKuma wrote:
I'm GLAD player bounties is moving to MBH, there's templates out there such as hybrid BH/Jedi that gives BH AND Jedi a bad name, and since the beginning of doawn on BH 3000/TKM. I was a MBH/MSwords for a while, held up very well, nothing is stopping you from going as a melee BH.

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Alot is stoping me if i go MBH/Mpike,which is very weak w/o healing or more skills.i have no healing at all, i will only have 23 skill pts left and that could go to nothing, i cant even get the pwr attacks in swords.

So please post something constructive or nothing at all.

Message Edited by StormTroopercpt0 on 07-12-2005 12:38 AM

"Alot if stoping me if i go MBH/Mpike that is very weak, i have no healing at all, i will only have 23 skill pts left and that could go to nothing, i cant even get the pwr attacks in swords."

You'll have Impale, probably the most powerful melee attack there is, why would you want power attack anyways with that stupid warmup. I did MBH/MSwords throughout most of the CU before I finally used the token respec and I didn't really have a problem with it, the only times I couldn't hold up was to those 226K's with pre-CU sabers and knew what they were doing and some of those MDefs or hybrids. Constructive enough?