Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: how can u kill a MDEF?
Heres a tactic....just act lik you do everyday while not hunting. When his group is on brake, (if in a group),you make sure he has no force enhancements and start shooting away. Then after you kill him (if lucky) you get ready for alot of hate tells from his groupies.
Ok point is...attack when they feel secure... mainly when: On the bazaar, in a crowded city, or hunting with other fellow jedi or whatever.
/duelists;
/pause 26;
/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!
/pause 1;
/macro Duelist
how many times u gonner post that tony? hehe I know what most of u are saying, and i do all of them things u say pretend to be friends etc wait for the opertune moment. it just seems all of this in theory is great but, i feel we dont do enough damage against mdefs. the one where they guy used avoid incap we fighted for about 20 mins after and he must have been out or low in force because hes aura was gone but i stil was hitting for crap. ( i do use a ALR 1170 dmge with pup to 1340)
This was the ultimate example yesterday i find a jedi in theed in this building ive never seen before (the big palace one) at the back there is like a long thin bridge to a i cant think of the name for it but its like what peopel get married under outside.
Akast wrote:how many times u gonner post that tony? hehe I know what most of u are saying, and i do all of them things u say pretend to be friends etc wait for the opertune moment. it just seems all of this in theory is great but, i feel we dont do enough damage against mdefs. the one where they guy used avoid incap we fighted for about 20 mins after and he must have been out or low in force because hes aura was gone but i stil was hitting for crap. ( i do use a ALR 1170 dmge with pup to 1340)
This was the ultimate example yesterday i find a jedi in theed in this building ive never seen before (the big palace one) at the back there is like a long thin bridge to a i cant think of the name for it but its like what peopel get married under outside.
Im under cover and for luck the bridge is about 60m long he cant see me and im just watching him, he has no states up no macros no defense even no sabre equiped, i think i got to get this one, i conceal shot (700) sniper shot (900) Crit (500) Under hand (150) hes on the floor hasnt healed yet but this thing hes on is a bit lower than me and suddenly i have no Los while hes on the floor he gets up instant macros all hes states charges me im in a tight place 30 sec later im dead. and aprently the jedi was with hes in game woman looking for a place to marry. poor girlso i think we do enough damge if they leave there sabre at home
Its not about the saber, its about Force Aura and Jedi Innate Armor.
Any MDef has an armor rating of 7000 against all attacks.
Improved Force Aura gives +500 to defenses, meaning the damage you do will be close to the min damage of your weapon since you probably dont have 700+ accuracy to at least get the average of min and max damage. Therefore your 1.3k max dmg rifle with pup is pretty worthless against Force Aura if it has 400 min damage (which would be about 200 base damage after armor on the Jedi), you want a weapon with high min damage.
Akast wrote:
ahh but i did do this i followed htis guy for an hour hes in aoe group i cover n sneak up on him hes got barely no health hes going in cap i let losse shotting him with all my big shots n he dont go down. even though he has no health Aparently he has avoid incap!! i mean dam
just now found one at bazzar meding nothing at all up i sniper him and it hits for 2400 -1800 then 2 secs later its all up and im runing and hes hitting me for 800 a hit when my crit hits for 300
7 jedis tonight ALL mdefs
im sick of it
You think thats annoying, try facing a Master Enhancer, I had his force almost gone and his health and he throws stasis on me and burst runs away. I can't do anything jus have to watch him run up to his house and go in oncecombathas gone.
Akast wrote:
i know somone did it the other day here but he took forever . i jsut dont know how immeant to kill one when my 1340 damge rifle hits adv crit for 300!
don't listen to the people saying to out last the force pool rofl. A good Jedi will conserve force and the fight will last forever (that's assuming you don't get a Jedi with nice pearls/crystals).
Reason why your adv crit only hit for 300, your accuracy is lacking. The more Def the Jedi has over your accuracy the more your damage output scales to the min value. What is the min value of your weapon? I noticed you put the Max value but when you fight a Master Defender Jedi it's the min value that is golden.
As far as tactics, it's all about the accuracy. You must maintain the highest possible accuracy that you can get. I myself have +25 general accuracy as well as +24 rifle accuracy. Combined with MBH/MR my accuracy is 309 without any foods. Now combine with food (+215 ranged accuracy for 1 min), you get about 525 accuracy. You've just negated the Jedi's Aura. Now you have to find a way to negate his 200+ regular ranged Def mods. With that you will need the special advanced aim, this adds 240 accuracy for a limited time. Add it all together and you get over 750 Accuracy (for a limited time). In that time you have to find a way to incap the Jedi.
The tank professions are always hard to damage but you have to understand why you are doing little damage to begin with if you plan to defeat the Jedi. Getting the right equipment, food is so important when fighting these Jedi. Remember when the new BH scopes get fixed that will be an additional 60+ accuracy you can count towards your accuracy!
Akast wrote:
i know somone did it the other day here but he took forever . i jsut dont know how immeant to kill one when my 1340 damge rifle hits adv crit for 300!
Message Edited by sememon on 08-15-2005 02:45 PM
papillion wrote:
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WookieOgre wrote:
Remember when the new BH scopes get fixed that will be an additional 60+ accuracy you can count towards your accuracy!
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What does this mean? Is this something that is in test centre? Or a new "weapon" addon for BHs?
It's the new BH loot (from killing NPC marks) that can be used when making your ranged weapon. The Scopes I looted have -.74 speed with 64 accuracy. ATM they are bugged in that they turn your weapon to Energy (if the gun was supposed to be Kinetic) or to Blast (if the Gun was supposed to be Energy). Devs have said they are going to fix that in some later publish.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter