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I am all for it. I would GLADLY forfeit any future attemps at PvP and the GCW. I am not a fan of PvP, never have been, never will be.

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Dlek_Krego wrote:
I am all for it. I would GLADLY forfeit any future attemps at PvP and the GCW. I am not a fan of PvP, never have been, never will be.

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You have the reward of being 1.5 to 2x greater than any profession combo in the game. That's a HUGE reward. Where's the risk if it's PVE only?

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TheMadCoder wrote:

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Dlek_Krego wrote:
I am all for it. I would GLADLY forfeit any future attemps at PvP and the GCW. I am not a fan of PvP, never have been, never will be.

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You have the reward of being 1.5 to 2x greater than any profession combo in the game. That's a HUGE reward. Where's the risk if it's PVE only?

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so, you are going to jump on my post because I stated an opinion on a propsed suggestion? Why would it matter if I am 1.5 stronger than any other profession if I am opting out of the chance to ever go against any other profession? Where is the reward? If I am opting out of PvP and the GCW, you should be happy about that, because then I would not be ruining either of the two. My sole game enjoyment would be out in the wild hunting with my PvE friends, and away from the public view. How is that a bad thing?

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TheMadCoder wrote:

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Dlek_Krego wrote:
I am all for it. I would GLADLY forfeit any future attemps at PvP and the GCW. I am not a fan of PvP, never have been, never will be.

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You have the reward of being 1.5 to 2x greater than any profession combo in the game. That's a HUGE reward. Where's the risk if it's PVE only?

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QFE

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Gubment_Geek wrote:

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TheMadCoder wrote:

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Dlek_Krego wrote:
I am all for it. I would GLADLY forfeit any future attemps at PvP and the GCW. I am not a fan of PvP, never have been, never will be.

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You have the reward of being 1.5 to 2x greater than any profession combo in the game. That's a HUGE reward. Where's the risk if it's PVE only?

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QFE

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again, why is being 1.5 stronger than any other profession any type of reward if I opt out of the chance to ever pit that strength against any other profession? That's like giving someone a fancy car, and not the keys... then saying the car is your reward, just because you can't drive it means nothing.

The PvE jedi has been talked to death, yes i know a more than a few jedi that care less about pvp and they dont engage in pvp, with the exception of the odd BH. But if ever they did this PvE switch then you simply made a class of uber looters. Now i know that currently there are some major issues with the saber output ect, yet at present jedi healing is never ending (well not really but at present you can out heal any professioni in the game by a WIDE margin). Heck with the right temp a jedi can easily solo Necrosis, which i have never seen any single full temp profession do (and maybe this is the way it should be). So in a word, to make this switch happen they would have to yet again nerf the jedi that took the PvE option and the boards would light up with more negative mojo. In a word only having one ALPA class is bad bad bad for any game, especially, an online game, and to give that alpha class a free ticked to all the loot with out the possiblity of being annoyed (notice i didnt say killed) by BH isnt very fair to the rest of the population.

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Arxy wrote:
The PvE jedi has been talked to death, yes i know a more than a few jedi that care less about pvp and they dont engage in pvp, with the exception of the odd BH. But if ever they did this PvE switch then you simply made a class of uber looters. Now i know that currently there are some major issues with the saber output ect, yet at present jedi healing is never ending (well not really but at present you can out heal any professioni in the game by a WIDE margin). Heck with the right temp a jedi can easily solo Necrosis, which i have never seen any single full temp profession do (and maybe this is the way it should be). So in a word, to make this switch happen they would have to yet again nerf the jedi that took the PvE option and the boards would light up with more negative mojo. In a word only having one ALPA class is bad bad bad for any game, especially, an online game, and to give that alpha class a free ticked to all the loot with out the possiblity of being annoyed (notice i didnt say killed) by BH isnt very fair to the rest of the population.

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any player who wants to be an uber looter can do so without having to be Jedi... a rifleman with an 80 meter range can take down just about anything without ever taking an aggro from it, and as it is now, one rifleman can out damege a GROUP of Jedi, so the looter argument doesn't float.

O i think it does, while ill give you the point on the range and damage output on a rifleman + other proff here (this might change with pub 19, but for all professions), you missed the point of my post, At present, Jedi abiltity to outlast any other profession will make them the best looter temp. As it stands the abiltity to heal till the cows come home (this will change with 19) and your option to take M. Def (which from what im hearing will continue to be FOTM)you have the ability (depending on temp) to simply wade in to the nastiest places solo and last a great deal longer than any other temp. Dont get me wrong as of this day I know other temps can outdamage most jedi temps, its just the jedi abiltity to absorb so much damage and heal that allows them acess to the high end content that only a well rounded group could do. Now before you flame away, do I think this is fair, YES is do, Ive seen first hand the commitment you have to have to get a full fledged jedi, my wife has one on Radiant. Im simply saying that, having this pve switch, is not a good solution to the Jedi/BH issue. I can think of other great idea's like Son's old Blue glowy proposal ect. Pesonally, Ive never agreed with the loss of XP due to a BH death, but hey not my call.

Im PRO jedi folks, but you do realize that with 4000 healer vs either a CM or Doc, with enhancers and a droid pulled, Jedi can outlast them due to the fact you only use force, hence the comment on never ending. In a 1 vs 1, the outcome is already determined assuming equal skill with the templates, just have to wait out the others mind, but those temps (cm/doc) will have major issues in a LONG term fights. This heal per second to me means nothing concidering that currently battle do last a bit longer hence hitting the HAM bars more. And Yes, after pub 19, jedi get a boost in saber damage, as will everyone else (elemental damage). But they will be hamstrung by mind cost on healing, which for what i hear will put them on more equal terms with the normal temps (i.e. you have to worry about yet another pool), as if jedi didnt have enough to worry about.

p.s. as far as the damage healed overtime you quoted, ive seen vastly different numbers, ill try to find the post on the doc forum.

But back to the original posters point. Im against a PvE option, but im all for a major revamp in skill loss, visibility gained, ect ect, I just dont think jedi need to avoid BH encounters just so they can PvE.

***UPDATE****, Just got off of Ventrillo with a fellow BH on Sunrunner, and apparently, I take back all that i said about jedi healing being super-duper, As it stands he just nailed a long time full temp pre cu knight, and his heals (4000 CM) were very good, and he only used one stim, I think many things are said in the previous post by me, are now well HISTORY,

But again im against a PVE switch!

Message Edited by Arxy on 06-29-2005 01:31 PM