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Thread: Great news for REAL Bounty Hunters!
Aveweto wrote:
its a crappy idea to remove names and mission payouts from the terms, coz who want to fight against a nameless mark and dont even know the payout till he wins? for example, imagine u have a mark and dunno the name or the payout. u start hunting and at the moment u are attacking your mark u maybe get slaughtered fast, u didnt even know if the mark's payout was high enough to spend some time hunting? and u cant take another mission of that jedi so u couldnt have your revenge if u get slaughtered! I THINK THIS SUCKS!!! (sorry for the bad spelling)
Look at the bright side, you wont know how much money your not getting when your in the cloner wondering what went wrong.
Couple weeks ago when the Jedi healing change was introduced I made a reply in a thread. This what I said :
This comes from a Jedi who is also a Bounty Hunter. Once the nerfs start they don't stop. How do you think the old combat system got so out of balance. Ask some of the older players about the nerfs. Pistoleers we're one of the first when they're 10 second KD wad deemed to powerful, Commando Burns got the smack down, etc. etc.
Mark my words, more will come, hope its still funny when your profession gets it.
Now my question is, Is it still funny?
laodamas wrote:
Aveweto wrote:
its a crappy idea to remove names and mission payouts from the terms, coz who want to fight against a nameless mark and dont even know the payout till he wins? for example, imagine u have a mark and dunno the name or the payout. u start hunting and at the moment u are attacking your mark u maybe get slaughtered fast, u didnt even know if the mark's payout was high enough to spend some time hunting? and u cant take another mission of that jedi so u couldnt have your revenge if u get slaughtered! I THINK THIS SUCKS!!! (sorry for the bad spelling)
Look at the bright side, you wont know how much money your not getting when your in the cloner wondering what went wrong.
Couple weeks ago when the Jedi healing change was introduced I made a reply in a thread. This what I said :
This comes from a Jedi who is also a Bounty Hunter. Once the nerfs start they don't stop. How do you think the old combat system got so out of balance. Ask some of the older players about the nerfs. Pistoleers we're one of the first when they're 10 second KD wad deemed to powerful, Commando Burns got the smack down, etc. etc.
Mark my words, more will come, hope its still funny when your profession gets it.
Now my question is, Is it still funny?
Whats funny is how, the BH themselves dis this. They found it funny to gank jedi. Or get the same mission on a low level jedi over and over again. Think of how often BH went after low level marks and felt good about it? think of all the jedi that got ganked? the truth is the system was abused. This is just people getting what they put in the system.... the truth hurts.
i started off as a bh before vehicles. i ended up as a jedi. i still have a bh. i like the changes for both my toons. 
The problems I see coming from this is, well besides the obvious not knowing the payout(difficulty).
1) Get the mission, pray he's not on Kash, go to (insert planet name) track him for as long as it takes. Find out it's a friend, guildmate, friend of your guilds.
You can't be sent after a bounty if you don't know it's name, Simple as that. Jedi will cheer, because it doesn't make it fair, it just ass-rapes the BHs.
BHs like Bobba Fett would never accept a bounty that was after a friends head. At least I wouldn't think he would. But I wouldn't. I'm not going to jeopardize a friendship or the friendship between guilds simply for a bounty. And after spending time searching for the person, you're defintely going to be aggravated, especially when it happens over and over.
I don't mind not seeing a payout, but even that would be illogical. Spend 2 hours tracking this guy and almost die killing him, pull out all your moves and tactics to find he was worth 50k, c'mon. Rediculous.
The DEVs just hear the Jedi's crying their little asses off and have to find a way to "make it even", well, this doesn't make it even, it just will cause more bitching. Which is why in 2 months another change will occur.
TheLastV8 wrote:
Oh?
I would like to see a master BH do this solo. No, I didnt catch him channeling or anything else. Clean one vs one fight.
And I only have only 4000 BH.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9863/screenshot1556ww.jpg
Posting screenshots means nothing. Every template has a counter. Every encounter is different. Sometimes Jedi make mistakes. Sometimes they don't. Though if you really want to measure success by screenshots of dead knights solo'd ...
Solo.
Again.
And again.
And then there are the AFK ones, but those aren't as impressive. And there are even more, but I only started taking screenshots after my 30-ish kill.
Cloake wrote:
milkchan wrote:
your crying. seriously you are. boohoo, its actually time for you to work now. instead of finding that 30k mission.
What about the opposite side of this argument. The guys who didn't fight padys? Now i'm forced to fight the low ones cuz after the hunt i'm not going to drop it. Atleast with the money system I could figure out the big guys from the small fries. I think this is going to hurt padys alot more then BH's in the end. For there are a bunch of high end bh's that dont waist their time with Padys and now are being forced to hunt them through this random system. It may be random but you get enough ppl doing it and i believe you'll be seeing more bh's then you did in the old system. Unless you were one of those who talked smacked and got on some guilds hitlistAlso with this new system I'm going to be able to do missions faster because i wont have to waste my time with /addfriend etc, i will know the faction, true i wont know the name but meh whatever i ride up on my speeder hop off blam blam, either dead jedi or dead me then i just keep going. say 30-45 minutes a hunt get about 10 to 20 hunts in a day. when sometimes i'd spend 3 hours at a terminal looking for a mark. This is going to be fun, good hunting
-Cloake
umm don't think it is possible for me to see more bh's under this idea than the old one....my personal record is 9 dead bh's in one day and the only time i've been beaten lately was 2v1 with a rancor along for fun...so that won't be happening anymore
and i have friends that were constantly getting attacked because their payout dictated that they were easy...again not going to happen again so get your missions and take your chances that you'll end up with a 226k fell temp that will welcome the distraction or the 40k paddy that still has a powerhammer or the 150k mark you wanted in the first place because you know you could beat that one...good luck to all
Pawnbroker-DC wrote:
Cloake wrote:
milkchan wrote:
your crying. seriously you are. boohoo, its actually time for you to work now. instead of finding that 30k mission.
What about the opposite side of this argument. The guys who didn't fight padys? Now i'm forced to fight the low ones cuz after the hunt i'm not going to drop it. Atleast with the money system I could figure out the big guys from the small fries. I think this is going to hurt padys alot more then BH's in the end. For there are a bunch of high end bh's that dont waist their time with Padys and now are being forced to hunt them through this random system. It may be random but you get enough ppl doing it and i believe you'll be seeing more bh's then you did in the old system. Unless you were one of those who talked smacked and got on some guilds hitlist-Cloake
umm don't think it is possible for me to see more bh's under this idea than the old one....my personal record is 9 dead bh's in one day and the only time i've been beaten lately was 2v1 with a rancor along for fun...so that won't be happening anymore
so are you saying jedi are overpowered?
many, many bh's died to my stun baton
Cloake wrote:
lol good stuff
OhBuggah wrote:
Moving Jedi missions to MBH is a moot point post-CU. Invest. 3 bounty hunter hybrids are just not as effective against Jedi as an MBH template.
Regarding the not-knowing-your-mark, ... I find it ironic that a Jedi could do a /duel on you and know that he's your mark even before you know it.
There is TAB key in your keyboard, use its power.
All you complainers who are tearing your hearts out because "you'll be forced to hunt paddies", please spare us the crocodile tears. After grinding off-terminals, I have been a visible Jedi Knight for several months, and I have only ever had four bounty hunters come after me. Two before the CU, and two after. Both of the post-CU BH that came after me felt the need to explain why they took my mission - they said I was the only mark they could find online!! (I sometimes play offpeak hours). So there can't be that many of you out there. In any case, there's an easy fix. If you arrive where your mark is, and it's a low level paddie that you conscientiously object to killing, simply abort the mission and go get another. The time you spend shouldn't be any longer than the 20 minutes you used to spend in front of the terminals refreshing to find a suitable mission for an online high level Jedi, minus the risk of RSI
Pawnbroker-DC wrote:
Cloake wrote:
milkchan wrote:
your crying. seriously you are. boohoo, its actually time for you to work now. instead of finding that 30k mission.
What about the opposite side of this argument. The guys who didn't fight padys? Now i'm forced to fight the low ones cuz after the hunt i'm not going to drop it. Atleast with the money system I could figure out the big guys from the small fries. I think this is going to hurt padys alot more then BH's in the end. For there are a bunch of high end bh's that dont waist their time with Padys and now are being forced to hunt them through this random system. It may be random but you get enough ppl doing it and i believe you'll be seeing more bh's then you did in the old system. Unless you were one of those who talked smacked and got on some guilds hitlist-Cloake
umm don't think it is possible for me to see more bh's under this idea than the old one....my personal record is 9 dead bh's in one day and the only time i've been beaten lately was 2v1 with a rancor along for fun...so that won't be happening anymore
Now, IF they fix all TEF- and LOS-Exploits I shouldn't have too much trouble fighting my mark. Although 150k's the "sweet spot", I've seen more than one 226k target running into a private building after a 30 min fight. And those 40k MRM-Paddies are quite surprised when they're forced to fight at less than 20m against someone with 500+ ranged defense, nice elemental damage and high healing capabilities (almost a complete role reversal...). I've never met a 40k swordsman but he shouldn't be much tougher than any of the non-Jedi swordsman/healing prof templates out there.
No, the real problem will not be fighting my mark, it will be finding it in the first place. Seeing that approx. 80% of my marks are on Kashyyyk these days, how can I possibly track that bugger down? I don't get any WP and I don't get a name. That means I will have to go through every single instance and target every grinding glowbat wielder. Unless he's AFK, chances are he will simply get into the LOS-bugzone, cloak or log before I even know WHO I'm after.
Oh and OT: don't give me that "now it takes SKILL!!!11"-crap. This might be true to a certain degree for the current system where you know the name of your mark and can prepare the "hit" properly (I've picked up the habit of stalking my high lvl targets for a fair amount of time, finding out where they live, where they usually go etc.). I highly doubt that chasing annonymous waypoints without knowing anything about the target until you open fire on him takes any skill whatsoever. And I really really doubt (well, more like hope actually) that SOE will go live with a hunting system like that. They may favour Jedi players but to piss off a group of customers in such a blatant you'd have to be a complete shortsighted, cash-hungry moron.
Kevin Kereth
OhBuggah wrote:
Moving Jedi missions to MBH is a moot point post-CU. Invest. 3 bounty hunter hybrids are just not as effective against Jedi as an MBH template.
Regarding the not-knowing-your-mark, ... I find it ironic that a Jedi could do a /duel on you and know that he's your mark even before you know it.
Except that the jedi cons red to you and you can get their exact waypoint.... this is not even an issue.
You should not have the name until you find the red dot.
Tosuggest getting a jedi name moved back to the informant process slows but does NOT eliminate griefing or ganking just pushes the process back two steps. Considering that you can leave the bh window open as you talk to the informant this is a huge consern/issue for me.