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Thread: Remove Negative Jedi Xp ---DEVS READ ME!---

Zennez
Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:00 am
#14

4-5 times a day? not true, there must be a cool down on a jedis bounty... visibility and that system would be in place, if a jedi dies he goes back to 0 vis, if he lives eliminate all missions on him and toss him back up on the terms... there is no shortage of jedi so being constintly hunted isnt likely. but this is indeed incentive to hunt full temp jedi as opposed to paddys... your telling me the major imp and rebel guilds wouldnt want to hunt the opposing factions top jedi? by doing so they have an impact on the gcw, disable the enemys jedi and they are no longer as powerfull of a force for a short period of time.



Remember Jedi are the CORE of the gcw, they are what everyone is fighting over, thus bh should have an impact on it.

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MikeHeXt
Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:22 am
#15

Where do you guys find the time to come up with these stupid ideas anyway? Do you have any idea how long it takes to get just 1 skill box? Give it a rest. Are you THAT jealous?



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NarfBlinko
Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:33 am
#16






MikeHeXt wrote:
I think BH should lose ALL credits they have, and ALL investigation skills, and hell, break their rifle too if they fail 1 BH mission. Pure and simple.





Sounds like a sore loser, to me. Regarding your post about the length of time it takes to get "just one skill box", HELLO!!! Jedi is SUPPOSED to take time, It is SUPPOSED to be hard, not the cakewalk of the regular professions.




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RedVenom400
Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:36 am
#17

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Gilbert45
Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:42 am
#18






MikeHeXt wrote:
Where do you guys find the time to come up with these stupid ideas anyway? Do you have any idea how long it takes to get just 1 skill box? Give it a rest. Are you THAT jealous?




Yes they are.
Iaxa
Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:31 am
#19

One respectless clueless comment after another.


One jedi skill box can = your whole BH profession grind! How about if you were hunted left and right and if you were killed you lost your whole profession?


3.2 million jedi xp for a master box and jedi xp is earned at about 1/5 the rate. 16 million xp. What skill box do you have that cost 16 million xp?


The non-stop cries to destroy another profession only make you sound like a bunch of little jerk-offs!


Most of you need to start by just learning what your talking about so you can atleast get your facts correct.



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ther34p
Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:37 am
#20




The day devs implement a skill loss system for Jedi, they better implement a skill loss system for all other templates as well. Why should only Jedi be victims of that ?


Everyone cries for Jedi to be nerfed. You cry about this template and that template, why? Only cos that one beat you? I am a master defender and some other skills, but trust me if I stuck around for a fight I would die every single time.


If you gave me a complete Jedi template - by this I mean every single skill in all 5 trees, I would probably still die to an above average BH that knows his stuff. I watched a BH die earlier cos he did not use his range properly. He put up a very good fight, used all the specials, knockdowns etc, but he made what turned out to be a fatal flaw. He stayed within 32m of the Jedi. Remember that some Jedi have ranged capability. Get and stay more than 32m away from him, or you lose your edge.


I have a friend that has killed 6 BH's already. They were all easy. He was beginning to think that all BH were weak and he was quite good at PvP. It took 1 BH to bring him down to earth, with a 280k xp loss, and it took less than 2 minutes.


Newer BH please bear in mind that a Jedi max XP per kill for a level 80 Mob in a group of 8 is 1200 xp. Thats one thousand two hundred. A Jedi skill box costs 200k XP at tier 1, and then doubles at each level 200/400/800/1600 and 3.2 mill for Master box. **EDIT ** I put this in for the newer BH that can't understand why Jedi get upset when they get killed.


Any profession can grind out their boxes in a few days. You complain about the ryatt trail but no-one stops you going there to grind as well. Its good xp regardless of who is going there. In fact I have seen quite a few non Jedi grinding there in the past 2 days. That said, I do not, never have believed in AFK grinding. Unfortunately there will always be some people that will do this, and everyone is powerless to stop them. Use in game mechanics to stop it, they find outside programs etc to do it for them.



Some people should stop crying and get on with playing.



Message Edited by ther34p on 07-05-2005 04:43 PM

Message Edited by ther34p on 07-05-2005 04:44 PM



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thepunisher286
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:41 am
#21






ther34p wrote:




The day devs implement a skill loss system for Jedi, they better implement a skill loss system for all other templates as well. Why should only Jedi be victims of that ?


Are you serious? "Why should only jedi be victims of that?" Here come the clue train! last stop, you!


Jedi is considered the "end game" profession, and it is by design, ment to be far more dificult yet more powerful than any normal profession. No such thing as balance when there is one class that is, by design, stronger than evey other profession. There is very little keeping jedi from becoming full templates besides BH (which obviously haven't prevented many jedi from becoming full temp). Once Jedi are full temp, they can do what they feel like without -any- repercussion.The path jedi have now is infinittly easier than what it was during the permadeath and hologrind. Somehow people -still- complain it is not fair.


Everyone cries for Jedi to be nerfed. You cry about this template and that template, why? Only cos that one beat you? I am a master defender and some other skills, but trust me if I stuck around for a fight I would die every single time.


Not every single jedi is like you. Far from it.


If you gave me a complete Jedi template - by this I mean every single skill in all 5 trees, I would probably still die to an above average BH that knows his stuff. I watched a BH die earlier cos he did not use his range properly. He put up a very good fight, used all the specials, knockdowns etc, but he made what turned out to be a fatal flaw. He stayed within 32m of the Jedi. Remember that some Jedi have ranged capability. Get and stay more than 32m away from him, or you lose your edge.


I have a friend that has killed 6 BH's already. They were all easy. He was beginning to think that all BH were weak and he was quite good at PvP. It took 1 BH to bring him down to earth, with a 280k xp loss, and it took less than 2 minutes.


Sometimespeople get arrogant, and not take the next BH very seriously, drop thier guard, and it turns out that this next BH is a real professional at what he does, and probably used every tool in his disposal. But what is your point?


Newer BH please bear in mind that a Jedi max XP per kill for a level 80 Mob in a group of 8 is 1200 xp. Thats one thousand two hundred. A Jedi skill box costs 200k XP at tier 1, and then doubles at each level 200/400/800/1600 and 3.2 mill for Master box. **EDIT ** I put this in for the newer BH that can't understand why Jedi get upset when they get killed.


ike grinding only combat XP durring double xp week.


Any profession can grind out their boxes in a few days. You complain about the ryatt trail but no-one stops you going there to grind as well. Its good xp regardless of who is going there. In fact I have seen quite a few non Jedi grinding there in the past 2 days. That said, I do not, never have believed in AFK grinding. Unfortunately there will always be some people that will do this, and everyone is powerless to stop them. Use in game mechanics to stop it, they find outside programs etc to do it for them.


Where as a person with a normal profession grinding there is fine, why is it that jedi are singled out? Because 1) a BH cannot use droids to track thier mark. I am well aware of BH finding jedi on kash but for the most part, it is the 2)LOS exploit. Jedi know it is great XP and when they need to, they can escape to a spot where they can't be shot.


Some people should stop crying and get on with playing.


Apparently Jedi couldn't do that part when they unlocked... no one made them play jedi which was blatently shown to be extremely dificult, and not for the faint of heart.



Message Edited by ther34p on 07-05-2005 04:43 PM


Message Edited by ther34p on 07-05-2005 04:44 PM





dezi
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:49 am
#22


Jedi should have no penalty whatsoever.


Jedi need to be kicked up a notch, healing should be every .5 seconds, damage should be 10 times what it is, and avoid incap should last indefinately with no force cost.


BHs should only be able to take Jedi missions if that particular Jedi is in the mood, agrees to be hunted, is warned before the BH gets within range, and has friends waiting in a multi passenger speeder if things dont go well.


Other professions should be phased out. I see too many non-Jedi at starports flaunting their non-Jedi stuff.


Finally, Jedi should not be removed from the GCW, everyone else should be.


DEVS PLEASE READ! IVE SOLVED ALL THE PROBLEMS RIGHT HERE!!111!!11!!111


Sank_Rata
Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:17 am
#23

can we imagine jedi have to fight between them to have master skills? Because of quotas?


If a BH db him, he doesn t lost xp, but earn "loosers" visibility. which allows jedi to fight him, and take his place.



I know this idea is coming from nowhere, but what do u think about his?





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Niccolado
Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:19 am
#24



dezi wrote:

Jedi should have no penalty whatsoever.

Jedi need to be kicked up a notch, healing should be every .5 seconds, damage should be 10 times what it is, and avoid incap should last indefinately with no force cost.

BHs should only be able to take Jedi missions if that particular Jedi is in the mood, agrees to be hunted, is warned before the BH gets within range, and has friends waiting in a multi passenger speeder if things dont go well.

Other professions should be phased out. I see too many non-Jedi at starports flaunting their non-Jedi stuff.

Finally, Jedi should not be removed from the GCW, everyone else should be.

DEVS PLEASE READ! IVE SOLVED ALL THE PROBLEMS RIGHT HERE!!111!!11!!111






You forgot that all jedi should have regeneration rate depending on their invested SP too! So if they have invested 250 SP in FS/Jedi they should regen like 250 hp/sec.




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Nox_SWG
Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:25 am
#25


See, this is what is wrong with the BH class now. It's attracting people like this.


You already had gank squad first strike griefing potential against other players, and now you want - to be able to do more damage to their characters? It's your attitude that is going to get BH class trashed, mark my words.


What you should be doing is scrambling to find a way to get BH/Jedi fights to not be grief-fests that end up having the too-early-weaned crowd of impotent haters flock to it like flies on feces at their shot at gettign a grief fix.


The way it sits right now, BH is headed for a bobbit. Either you do something about it, or the devs will. If the devs do it, you'll be sorry.


MsNiL
Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:33 am
#26

Grinding is not a game.

Grinding is what makes SWG a lesser game from other MMORPG's.

Do not support this lazy way of pushing people to pay more for no content.




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