Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: DEVS: Boss marks drops either junk smuggler components or jar of bugs
Cuerv0
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:58 pm
#14
Geburah wrote:
Boss marks drops either junk smuggler components or jar of bugs. Where is the fun in that? Where is our worthwhile rewards for killing boss marks? There is a slim chance of getting a boss mark already and if they finally show up they will drop nothing but junk. What's good about hunting a boss mark?And we are supposed to have fun as you promised?
Any loot hunting requires patience and luck. Not every mark will have something awesome, I would actually hate it if it did. It would be too easy.
If you make every mark drop good stuff, this would happen:
Everyone would have BH armor.
Everyone would have +25 mods on everything.
Everyone would have ridiculous weapons made with the new weapon components.
The uber loot would be worth much less on the market.
It would be boring, no excitement, no "man I hope this guy has something good".
Quit whining. "Fun" is subjective. I have fun doing BH missions even when there's no great loot in it at the end.
Iawo
Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:01 pm
#15
I'm sorry, but if you guys are having trouble killing boss marks, you just plain either have crappy equipment or just can't play the game. They aren't hard. Sure, they aren't as easy as the stuff you did your 2 day template grind on, but they are NOT hard. I don't even bother using anything but blob candy and maybe citros snow cake to fight those. I don't bother with doc buffs either.
If you want to try something I think is hard, go fight those level 88 black sun guys solo. The people complaining about boss marks being hard wouldn't last 10 seconds against one of those guys, and they aren't even the toughest thing in the game. Boss marks aren't hard enough in my opinion.
StinkToe
Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:02 pm
#16
I don't mind the lack of loots, I don't like the going from one extreme to another - do small changes to tweak not on end to another.
Robba_Fett
Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:04 pm
#17
Cuerv0 wrote:
Geburah wrote:
Boss marks drops either junk smuggler components or jar of bugs. Where is the fun in that? Where is our worthwhile rewards for killing boss marks? There is a slim chance of getting a boss mark already and if they finally show up they will drop nothing but junk. What's good about hunting a boss mark?
And we are supposed to have fun as you promised?
Any loot hunting requires patience and luck. Not every mark will have something awesome, I would actually hate it if it did. It would be too easy.
If you make every mark drop good stuff, this would happen:
Everyone would have BH armor.
Everyone would have +25 mods on everything.
Everyone would have ridiculous weapons made with the new weapon components.
The uber loot would be worth much less on the market.
It would be boring, no excitement, no "man I hope this guy has something good".
Quit whining. "Fun" is subjective. I have fun doing BH missions even when there's no great loot in it at the end.
/agree
bountyhunterGeist
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:47 pm
#18
loot just takes time in the 3 weeks i have hunted NPC's only giving whining jedi a break i have gotten 50 smuggler items 4 almost complete suits of BH armor , 15 SEA (4 where jedi ones), 2 crystals, 10 jars of bugs, 5 cargo pockets, 6 WS crafting enhancments, and 10 disappearing missions because they couldn't swim lol. it takes time to get the good stuff so hang in there and kill kill kill. stick with 31k+ missions they don't get much hirer then 31k and somtimes take mission for the blacksun assassin, merc.generaland gank leader. i took 3 of these at 30k and 2 out of 3 was a boss double golds and drop quick.
Message Edited by bountyhunterGeist on 09-07-2005 11:50 PM
Majorly
Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:29 am
#19
I think the big issue here is, why bother having master BH if the same loot drops off of lower marks? Getting Boss marks is nothing special. They drop junk most of the time (yes, they do), and since they are rare it makes them not worth it.
Elites that I can kill with relative ease and drop loot > Boss marks that are rare... that drop bugs alot anyway.
It should mean something when a Master BH goes after marks.
I am in no way saying to makeboss marks easier or less rare. After about 40 mission yesterday, I saw 3 boss marks. 2 of the three dropped junk. All there were kicking the snot outta me (The KD kind). In the end I won and got illegal boosters for my troubles. So out of ALL.. and I mean ALL my boss marks that I've faced over the past few weeks, 3 have had something on them worth keeping. And that's alot of missions. (10 hours a day)
Ulrek_Oden
Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:18 am
#20
I completely accept the randomness of the situation and I totally support it....
I would really just be curious to the numbers behind the randomness...
For example....
what % chance do you have to pull a boss mark?
what % chance do you have to loot a 'above average' item from that boss mark?
Particularly the second % would be interesting to know versus a nonboss mark....
Of course... it would also be nice to know what the devs feel is an 'above average' item...
My only fear is that the % of the 'above average' drop is the same for boss marks as it is for NPCs... Which if so makes boss marks useless.
Again I am not complaining or whining just curious....
I would really just be curious to the numbers behind the randomness...
For example....
what % chance do you have to pull a boss mark?
what % chance do you have to loot a 'above average' item from that boss mark?
Particularly the second % would be interesting to know versus a nonboss mark....
Of course... it would also be nice to know what the devs feel is an 'above average' item...
My only fear is that the % of the 'above average' drop is the same for boss marks as it is for NPCs... Which if so makes boss marks useless.
Again I am not complaining or whining just curious....
WookieOgre
Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:20 am
#21
I personally think there is something up with the loot tables of 'Boss' marks. Yeah they might have a chance to drop good loot BUT from my experience (after doing over a 100), more than 90% of the time (and yes that means 9/10 boss marks) dropped only bugs. Just last weekend 3 boss marks, 3 jar of bugs.
The devs need to look at the 'boss' marks specifically. There seems to be somekind of bug that makes jar of bugs drop more often than not for these marks. Now the elite I rarely just get a jar of bugs, that is completely the opposite of 'boss' marks.
KammaRocca
Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:29 am
#22
Illegal core boosters and delicate trigger mechanisms are definately not junk components. If you think they are, try grinding t master smuggler and sit outside the starport in Kaarada for a while. And foraged bugs are delicious--you can find bugs anywhere throughout the galaxy, but our marks carry their own jars for these specific bugs.
Ulrek_Oden
Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:34 am
#23
KammaRocca wrote:Illegal core boosters and delicate trigger mechanisms are definately not junk components. If you think they are, try grinding t master smuggler and sit outside the starport in Kaarada for a while. And foraged bugs are delicious--you can find bugs anywhere throughout the galaxy, but our marks carry their own jars for these specific bugs.
They are not junk per se... but if I cant use it... or I cant sell it... then it is junk TO ME
Right now I cant even pracitically give ICB away on starsider.
Majorly
Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:36 am
#24
Ulrek_Oden wrote:
KammaRocca wrote:
Illegal core boosters and delicate trigger mechanisms are definately not junk components. If you think they are, try grinding t master smuggler and sit outside the starport in Kaarada for a while. And foraged bugs are delicious--you can find bugs anywhere throughout the galaxy, but our marks carry their own jars for these specific bugs.
They are not junk per se... but if I cant use it... or I cant sell it... then it is junk TO ME
Right now I cant even pracitically give ICB away on starsider.
I'm going to have to agree with this. I have well over 75 of each of the mains one now. So many that they are pretty much worthless.
It's the finely crafted kits that I'm not seeing... and those are LOWER in level for slices.
RingSting_IOM
Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:22 am
#25
Majorly wrote:
I think the big issue here is, why bother having master BH if the same loot drops off of lower marks? Getting Boss marks is nothing special. They drop junk most of the time (yes, they do), and since they are rare it makes them not worth it.
Elites that I can kill with relative ease and drop loot > Boss marks that are rare... that drop bugs alot anyway.
It should mean something when a Master BH goes after marks.
I am in no way saying to makeboss marks easier or less rare. After about 40 mission yesterday, I saw 3 boss marks. 2 of the three dropped junk. All there were kicking the snot outta me (The KD kind). In the end I won and got illegal boosters for my troubles. So out of ALL.. and I mean ALL my boss marks that I've faced over the past few weeks, 3 have had something on them worth keeping. And that's alot of missions. (10 hours a day)
This argument is complete rubbish
Elites dont drop the best loot ie Cells and Casings, they are rare on Bosses which can only be got a mbh. The main thing about boss marks is that they are fun to fight and the there is a chance of a great reward. The chance is low and that the way that it should be.
If you dont think that it is worth it then maybe you skhould drop MBH but to be honest I cant think that you could get anything better.
Boss Marks + Jedi Hunting = Lots of fun
Aendracon
Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:32 am
#26
Ulrek_Oden wrote:
Right now I cant even pracitically give ICB away on starsider.
/wave
I´ll gladly take any component you can spare. Seriously! You have to realize that Smugglers used to buy crates of components. Now we have to go hunting for them.