Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Charge Shot > Underhanded Shot?
Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:39 pm
#14
KilferfUhn wrote:
Spynet-Informant wrote:
Confirmed.
When during the respec period, I tried Pistoleer, Carbineer, and Rifleman out.
Charge Shot is way more successful than Underhand Shot.
"Way more successful" at what, exactly?
Performing a successful Knockdown.
That's what this whole thread is about. Keep up.
KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:43 pm
#15
Spynet-Informant wrote:
KilferfUhn wrote:
Spynet-Informant wrote:
Confirmed.
When during the respec period, I tried Pistoleer, Carbineer, and Rifleman out.
Charge Shot is way more successful than Underhand Shot.
"Way more successful" at what, exactly?
Performing a successful Knockdown.
That's what this whole thread is about. Keep up.
Lemme guess, you Charge Shot, then Underhand shot, then came to the conclusion that Underhand shot doesn't land as often? o.O
KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:45 pm
#17
Wait, please don't bother responding. I just realized you're the same fella claiming Jedi are more than 1.5 times more powerful lol.
CrovusDeveaux
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:48 pm
#18
Charge shot looks cooler, plus if you are fighting some bols, pickets, etc... you hit them right in the head.
KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:50 pm
#19
CrovusDeveaux wrote:
Charge shot looks cooler, plus if you are fighting some bols, pickets, etc... you hit them right in the head.
I agree, i was a Master Carbineer for over a year before switching to CM and i loved it. The hand in the air shot is feared galaxy wide.
KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:54 pm
#20
For the record, Knockdown is THE shot. Not, "Charge shot with a chance to knockdown target", not "underhand shot with a chance to knockdown target.
They're BOTH KNOCKDOWN SHOTS. If they didn't knockdown it's because A) You missed B) The 30 second knockdown grace period on your target has not yet expired) C) They got some nice +25 to KD SEA's on (if they even work).
I've never had ANYONE resist my Underhand Shot without A, B, or C applying. EVER.
Kinshi
Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:59 pm
#21
Here is hwo I detected how /chargeshot was landing more KDs than /underhandshot
First I made a macro w/ JUST /underhand shot in it, and bound it to a key, then made a note of how much I was missing and how many times a KD actually happend. ( I was taking CL 70 gurk missions on Lok)
on my second gurk mission, i switched the macro to /chargeshot and watched my results.
Mobs were on their back a LOT more with /chargeshot than w/ /underhandshot
I then combined them into one macro, did a /underhandshot, then a /chargeshot right after, and watch the first one miss more often or fail to KD, then the /chargeshot goes off and finishes the job.
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If you want a cool combat animation, combine /chargeshot w/ /firearmstrike in a macro
You then lunge at your target, bash them in the teeth with a rifle butt, then knock them on their a$$.
First I made a macro w/ JUST /underhand shot in it, and bound it to a key, then made a note of how much I was missing and how many times a KD actually happend. ( I was taking CL 70 gurk missions on Lok)
on my second gurk mission, i switched the macro to /chargeshot and watched my results.
Mobs were on their back a LOT more with /chargeshot than w/ /underhandshot
I then combined them into one macro, did a /underhandshot, then a /chargeshot right after, and watch the first one miss more often or fail to KD, then the /chargeshot goes off and finishes the job.
--
If you want a cool combat animation, combine /chargeshot w/ /firearmstrike in a macro
You then lunge at your target, bash them in the teeth with a rifle butt, then knock them on their a$$.
KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:08 pm
#22
KilferfUhn wrote:
For the record, Knockdown is THE shot. Not, "Charge shot with a chance to knockdown target", not "underhand shot with a chance to knockdown target.
They're BOTH KNOCKDOWN SHOTS. If they didn't knockdown it's because A) You missed B) The 30 second knockdown grace period on your target has not yet expired) C) They got some nice +25 to KD SEA's on (if they even work).
I've never had ANYONE resist my Underhand Shot without A, B, or C applying. EVER.
QFE
Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:17 pm
#23
KilferfUhn wrote:
KilferfUhn wrote:
For the record, Knockdown is THE shot. Not, "Charge shot with a chance to knockdown target", not "underhand shot with a chance to knockdown target.
They're BOTH KNOCKDOWN SHOTS. If they didn't knockdown it's because A) You missed B) The 30 second knockdown grace period on your target has not yet expired) C) They got some nice +25 to KD SEA's on (if they even work).
I've never had ANYONE resist my Underhand Shot without A, B, or C applying. EVER.
QFE
You're QFE'ing yourself?
The toolbox is strong with this one.
Temujin23
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:18 pm
#24
KilferfUhn wrote:
/underhandShot;
/pause 30;
/tell Kilferf'Uhn ******KNOCKDOWN IS AVAILABLE******
Sounds dangerous. If you absent-mindedly /reply, does time and space collapse into a singularity?
al-djinn'i
Master Ranger/MBH
KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:26 pm
#25
Spynet-Informant wrote:
KilferfUhn wrote:
KilferfUhn wrote:
For the record, Knockdown is THE shot. Not, "Charge shot with a chance to knockdown target", not "underhand shot with a chance to knockdown target.
They're BOTH KNOCKDOWN SHOTS. If they didn't knockdown it's because A) You missed B) The 30 second knockdown grace period on your target has not yet expired) C) They got some nice +25 to KD SEA's on (if they even work).
I've never had ANYONE resist my Underhand Shot without A, B, or C applying. EVER.
QFE
You're QFE'ing yourself?
The toolbox is strong with this one.
Yeah, apparently the OP missed it the first time.
You come into the BH forums posting some BS stats you found on the jedi forums on how Jedi are overpowered and expect us to agree? Then you "Confirm" something here in this thread that you have no idea what you're talking about, and you call ME a toolbox?
Why don't you add something useful to the forums other than your snotbubbles?
HAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:26 pm
#26
KilferfUhn wrote:
They got some nice +25 to KD SEA's on (if they even work).
They don't.
As a CU Alpha Tester... who has tested both shots extensively, I confidently confirm that Chargeshot is more effective at delivering a successful Knockdown. Just because your shot hits, doesn't mean the KD applies. Just as Stun doesn't apply 100% of the time either. The KD effect on Charge Shot from Carbineer applies with greater regularity than the Underhand from BH.
I'm currently an MBH/M.Pistoleer, and I often long for my Underhand to be as good as my KD was as a Carbineer.