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Thread: Speed

computerdude_04
Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:12 am
#14

the +115 to speed is very nice



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Nagabacca
Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:03 am
#15






BryianN wrote:
Maybe you should pick up BH carbines. You get +115 carbine speed.






I know i could go some BH to get more speed/accuracy, but that's not really the point


With my +25 speed SEAs, mastering marksmen would give me +90, which would cap a number of realistic weapons (pre-requisite of BH).


I suppose maybe Carbineer is balanced and the other profs are overpowered (an idea i've read on thisboard before). Even with +25 speed, (+85 with master, +90 with marksmen) you still could not shoot any weapon at the speed cap (although i think you'd be pretty close).


My template doesn't really let me go the BH route (too many points for not much gain), although depending on how i find carbineer with +85 speedi might






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BryianN
Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:16 am
#16



computerdude_04 wrote:
the +115 to speed is very nice



Anything over +100 is pointless, because the speed in the game is borked.

http://killyourpc.org/swg/speedguide.html

Read and learn.



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Zarqon
Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:40 am
#17

well, all hope is not gone, if you have +85 in speed then you need a weapon of speed 2.7 in order to shoot at the cap with crippleshot. That is not at all impossible to do. In fact that is the typical speed you get if you make a carbine with krayt tissue as well as imperial stocks. And that's not even counting a speed slice.


good luck




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travenwatts
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:00 am
#18

and with +90 speed you need a 4 second gun or faster to shoot a cripple shot once a second.
TAfirehawk
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:04 am
#19

Didn't somebody cover this in the FAQ????







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Therascalking3
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:14 am
#20

man firehawk you really champion your FAQ lol



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TAfirehawk
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:18 am
#21

It is not MY FAQ, but it is there for a reason.....shame nobody reads it....





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Nagabacca
Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:26 am
#22






TAfirehawk wrote:

Didn't somebody cover this in the FAQ????









No, actually.


I understand perfectly how the speed equation works. My questions relate to why Carbineers have such crap speed at Master.


I have just reached +60 speed (3xxx with +15 sea), ie i'm at the stage where i would be if i was a Master, without any tapes. At +60, you are slow (i'm from a melee background, where TKM/Fencer effectively cap at master, and i was a speed capped swordsman until recently).


Has it historically always been 60, or was it nerfed down for some reason? Why is it so low, what were the developers thinking? (30 speed less than Riflemen, who logically should be firing slower). What do they think balances Carbineer, ie what do we have that justifies a lower speed?


+85 probably will be enough for me to be effective (2.4 spd, 535 max laser carb ), but that needs +25 in sea, which for the population as a whole, isn't likely.



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TAfirehawk
Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:41 am
#23

I was referring to all the posts quoting numbers, not the question of WHY.....which didn't deserve any response from me....only a Dev could answer why they have had their heads up their arse for well over a year.





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novamarine
Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:00 am
#24







I understand perfectly how the speed equation works. My questions relate to why Carbineers have such crap speed at Master.








My suspicion is that the professions were thrown together at some point in the beta process with no real ryhme or reason as to why certain professions got certain skills and why some high high or low numbers. Since there has been no balancing of the professions, those original numbers have remained.


In reality, all the professions should end up with the same +speed at master. If you understand the speed equation, it is math and then based on the weapon reload. So, each profession should end up with same speed so that weapon reload determines which classes fire fast and which slow. Any other method results in an in ability to balance the professions at some point leveling (novice -> master).
Nagabacca
Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:02 am
#25






novamarine wrote:







I understand perfectly how the speed equation works. My questions relate to why Carbineers have such crap speed at Master.








My suspicion is that the professions were thrown together at some point in the beta process with no real ryhme or reason as to why certain professions got certain skills and why some high high or low numbers. Since there has been no balancing of the professions, those original numbers have remained.


In reality, all the professions should end up with the same +speed at master. If you understand the speed equation, it is math and then based on the weapon reload. So, each profession should end up with same speed so that weapon reload determines which classes fire fast and which slow. Any other method results in an in ability to balance the professions at some point leveling (novice -> master).







Yea, it's so simple






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DJM_Order
Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:31 am
#26


Does Enhanced Melee Speed +12 from the Combat Prowess line increase your One-handed Lightsaber Speed ?


If you have Master Saber your weapons speed shows as One-handed Lightsaber Speed +100


It also shows Enhanced Melee Speed +12


Is that for sompthing else ? or does it affect any Saber speed ?


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