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Buddhabro

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:30 pm

chardin wrote:
why? because BH/MCM is the counterclass to MD/MS

they are just whining cause they dont want to be weak to ANYONE... but they can move their tempaltes around to counter the BH/MCM as well... enhancer/power and then some sabers can counter a CM with ease... they are just to thick skulled to realise they have to direct their tempaltes at one thing... not 32 things...

But when you have 32 things coming at you all the time you direct yourself to cover as many of them as possible. And that is mdef mls.

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Nikolei

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:46 pm

#15

the thing is this temp can run any jedi temp outta force. Im mls menh 3000heal 0020 def on my jedi and these re the only bhs i have remotely and problem with. Its not there damage its the fact taht they can stand there adn outlast you untill your force is gone

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VexXev

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:51 pm

#16

the reason i like using mcm/mbh/4000 rifles is because i can just stand, tank, and outlast. i don't move in a fight except to chase jedi. i keep my dots, debuffs, and droid all going on the jedi all the time. (combat droid). throwing dots while shooting causes the jedi to heal a lot, and with mind/action debuffs they run out of mind and action lowering rate of heals and attacks. i've straight tanked mdef's with ease just wining the outlasting battle that sometimes lasts a good 15-20 mins.

from my jedi's point of view mcm are the thoughest to kill, but haven't lost to one yet. also mbh/CH is great at doing dmg with 3 pets hitting for 100-200 dmg every second along with being shot. only weakness is lack of healing for the bh themself.

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Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:32 pm

#17

Buddhabro wrote:

chardin wrote:
why? because BH/MCM is the counterclass to MD/MS

they are just whining cause they dont want to be weak to ANYONE... but they can move their tempaltes around to counter the BH/MCM as well... enhancer/power and then some sabers can counter a CM with ease... they are just to thick skulled to realise they have to direct their tempaltes at one thing... not 32 things...

But when you have 32 things coming at you all the time you direct yourself to cover as many of them as possible. And that is mdef mls.

exactly.. we are saying the same thing....

noone can honestly expect a template that is set to cover all combat professions evenly to be more powerful than one aimed at killing a specific template...

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PedricCuff

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:45 pm

#18

All templates have uberness to them. Especially if used the right way.

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Buddhabro

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:56 pm

#19

chardin wrote:

Buddhabro wrote:

chardin wrote:
why? because BH/MCM is the counterclass to MD/MS

they are just whining cause they dont want to be weak to ANYONE... but they can move their tempaltes around to counter the BH/MCM as well... enhancer/power and then some sabers can counter a CM with ease... they are just to thick skulled to realise they have to direct their tempaltes at one thing... not 32 things...

But when you have 32 things coming at you all the time you direct yourself to cover as many of them as possible. And that is mdef mls.

exactly.. we are saying the same thing....

noone can honestly expect a template that is set to cover all combat professions evenly to be more powerful than one aimed at killing a specific template...

Agreed, but what I am pointing out is that it isn't a matter of being thick skulled. If a jedi were to direct himself vs just mcm/mbh then he would be extremely vulnerable to everything else. So you take the cookie cutter template that lets you do well against most and take your licks from the ones you suck against.

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LordDraconis

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:12 pm

#20

PedricCuff wrote:
All templates have uberness to them. Especially if used the right way.

I agree takes time to know your temp and to use it the right way, alot of jedi think Oh I am master Defender I am sooo uber. Well bh found a temp to counter this temp that is all. As it stands Master Defender have insane defence buffs, and ranged temps have a hard time taking them out or takes a very long timebecause -Blocked- or Missed show up alot....

Dots however stick on the jedi and thus makes up for the misses and blocks, alsomakes them heal more. However in fairness some jedistill can't get over the fact that one bh can take care of them and still wish they can fight 4 or 5 bh like the old days. I for one don't see that day coming ever again.....but they can hope can't they

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PedricCuff

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:16 pm

#21

I wish I had been around back then. It would've been interesting to see.

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Ameno

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:22 pm

#22

Uh, i dunno, here are my educated guesses.

They have crappy sabers, and cannot outdamage the healing power. hightest i've had a CM healing for in a battle was about 1760 per heal every second or so.

They run out of force, because its a never ending battle, when said person is healing for forever and ever on end.

Besides being limited by the HAM bar, the Force bar drains real quick, and it regenerates slower then growing grass.. once someone is out of force, they are out... unless they've got a holocron. (if you removed the force bar, i assume it'd just go on, until someone made a mistake.)

uh, paraylizing to regenerate action/mind, or to place more dots and begin another long phase of kiting, and draining down force, making it a unfun fight, might be another.

Oh and that one that makes combat speed like -40, that is probably another.

Or they just don't know what they're doing.

take your pick.

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wildcard1973

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:09 pm

#23

Most lekely reasons are....since nothing more than good quality perals drop...many Post-CU Jedi have poor quality weapons with no hope of improving them anytime soon, couplethe changes made to Doc and CM in the reduction of mind costs for healing...and the lowering off cooldown timers on heals..and most CM/BHs can out heal any damage most Jedi can put out.

Next you have the Debuffs and DoTs.....with enhancers CMs can get ticks of 400+ on fire and poison, as well as lower the action and mind regen rates of their targets....add in a speed debuff that is double the possible speed buff available in Jedi and you have your answer.

I personally have no idea why they needed to make Doc speed buff and Jedi speed buff not stack AND lower in effect...yet left the CM speed debuff as it was.....while allowing the pikeman speed debuff to stack on top of it

The Devs are constantly overkilling on their changes...instead of making small tweaks.

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Ionbru

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:22 pm

#24

PedricCuff wrote:

foz200315 wrote:

!!! BE QUIET!! WE DONT WANT THEIR ATTENTION TURNED TO US PISTOLEERS!! LET EM HAVE FUN WITH MCM, THEY WONT KNOW ANY DIFFERENCE!

LOL

Yeah I totally agree. MP is the underground uber-BH temp.

right then time for a template change..........again

PedricCuff

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:28 pm

#25

right then time for a template change..........again

hehe what temp do you think I changed from to MP?

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Ionbru

Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:40 pm

#26

PedricCuff wrote:

right then time for a template change..........again

hehe what temp do you think I changed from to MP?

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