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Thread: Do jedi saber throws count as melee attacks or ranged attacks?

Indiana-Reayle
Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:39 am
#14

Sorry don't have the post count for the *edit* ability but just look at counter sniping 2 for example in rifleman:



Rilfe Defense +5- This mod improves your defensive skills while you have a rifle equipped.



Its scary that some people don't even know their own skills.



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keloch
Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:46 am
#15



ScoutTrooperLT wrote:
I know that most (if not all) jedi lightsaber specials count as melee attacks. But do jedi saber throws count as melee attacks or ranged attacks?
In other words, is it melee defense that helps against saber throws? Or is it ranged defense that helps against saber throws?
If anyone knows the answer to this question for sure, please enlighten me. Thanks





as it is now its only depending on weapon YOU use, ie. if you use a rifle ONLY your ranged def will count, and if you use Sword ONLY melee def will count... did some testing on dis, think its a bug.. would be useless with ranged def in melee professions otherwise.



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Rainstalker
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:02 am
#16

So taking in to account that saberthrow is a melee attack,this wouldmean that fire-arm strike is a ranged attack right?




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jdarklion
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:11 am
#17

I think this is a decent post (as im still new to the game) I didnt know that the defence you used was based on what weapon you were holding at the time. I am working on Rifleman now and had some of this picu thundercloud but only was using it if i was going up against something that was using a ranged attack on me. Guess ill have to invest more in them Thanks everyone!



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Indiana-Reayle
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:29 am
#18






Rainstalker wrote:

So taking in to account that saberthrow is a melee attack,this wouldmean that fire-arm strike is a ranged attack right?






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Firearm Strike: This MELEE ATTACK with your ranged weapon is useful for close encounters.



Come on guys. These are basic skills.



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Heruler
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:35 am
#19

saber throw is under same catagory as lunge a melee attack with an extended range ^_^

Ulrek_Oden
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:28 am
#20

Wat really suxs in all of this... is all the BHs that bought melee defense CA/AA... that now are basically useless...

I personally am not buying any AA/CAs until this is all sorted out... i.e. is it a bug... will it be fixed... or what...

Same goes for all the jedi that bought ranged CA/AAs they are essentially screwed now.



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blue-phoenix
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:41 am
#21

it's a melee attack



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Zemon
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:47 am
#22

It's kinda clear, a little shadded maybe.


You take gun and fire a bolt of energy, that's a ranged weapon making a ranged attack


You use the gun as a club and strike someone, its a melee attack.


A saber is a melee weapon, it you throw it, it's still a melee attack.


If I threw a knife at you, it would be a melee attack.


But commn sense is not the way the game always works. But it makes sense, right?





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Ullysses
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:48 am
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Ulrek_Oden wrote:
Wat really suxs in all of this... is all the BHs that bought melee defense CA/AA... that now are basically useless...

I personally am not buying any AA/CAs until this is all sorted out... i.e. is it a bug... will it be fixed... or what...

Same goes for all the jedi that bought ranged CA/AAs they are essentially screwed now.





Exactly....this melee/ranged defenses was SOE's big change for all defenses and now we find this out?


A rifleman should have because he needs melee defense and a swordsman should have because he needs ranged defense!


Ulrek_Oden
Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:51 am
#24



Ullysses wrote:


Ulrek_Oden wrote:
Wat really suxs in all of this... is all the BHs that bought melee defense CA/AA... that now are basically useless...

I personally am not buying any AA/CAs until this is all sorted out... i.e. is it a bug... will it be fixed... or what...

Same goes for all the jedi that bought ranged CA/AAs they are essentially screwed now.


Exactly....this melee/ranged defenses was SOE's big change for all defenses and now we find this out?

A rifleman should have because he needs melee defense and a swordsman should have because he needs ranged defense!






They DO have the melee defense and ranged defense... they are just collapsed into one...

Right now I am a master rifleman... so I want to find sea's that have ranged or rifle defense as I will be carrying a ranged or rifle weapon...

So those two numbers... range/rifle defense are against ranged attacks AND Melee...

The real question is... if this is intended why would a rifleman have melee defense mod in their skill tree? What master rifleman is realistically going to ever equip a melee weapon?

I actually wish we could get a read on whether this will stay this way or not... as I do not want to spend millions of credits on SEAs until we really know...



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