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Thread: Bounty Hunter Feedback Requested: Armor Certification

Raider_TNT
Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:56 am
#14


All I've seen in this thread was about BH and bounty hunter and mandalorian armor. These are just 2 of the few assualt armors that THREE professions have available to them. Changing those two armors just so some bounty hunters have an easier time getting more favorable armor for jedi is rediculous. What about the commandos and squad leaders that use those armors?There are many people who took up Bounty Hunter for the assault armor certification. Personally I like the looks of assault armor, and it is usually better for alot of PvE. If people really want more "favorable" armor for hunting Jedi there are othe profs that coinside with bounty hunter well the obtain recon certs. same is said for battle armor. Please leave the assault armor alone.



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tempuskai
Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:58 am
#15

Can't say I favour a change. Most BH including myself have invested in some hi end Battle/Recon armour (I have RIS myself), what wouldchanging the stats in the armour typesmean to us? Would we have to go out and buy new hi end Assault?



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CaleyUbique
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:05 am
#16

Nothing. It would only change in newly crafted sets, if and only if the crafter decided to make the set high end energy.



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Darth_Spike
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:12 am
#17

I read a post a while back about simply swaping the stats of Recon and Assult armors, without changing the actual value. In other words, if you had Assult with a kinetic protection of 7500 and energy protection of 5500 it would be swaped to be 7500 Energy and 5500 Kin. Recon gets the same swap, so that Assult becomes the Energy armor and Recon is the Kinetic arrmor. This way everyone that has high end armor still has high end armor, but it provides the more appropriate protection. Conversion of the armor can be quck and easy.


Another idea is to grant some form of Elite PSG certifications, that can be attached to the armor piece itself and can protect against Lightsabers. Make a MBH requirement, and start the CL requirement at 60. Once the EPSG is attached to a armor piece, it stays on there until it is used up - likepowerup for armor. In fact, there could be several varieties that have different Master cert requirements, allowing someone to tailor their protection based on their dual mastrer template.

Zaax
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:12 am
#18

i would LOVE this. really really LOVE it.


reason: NOT everyone wants to master a second recon / battle certed prof. i have a temp that that ONLY has me master of BH. and i am going to leave it, ONLY becasue of the gimped asoult cert.


If BH mostly faces Energy, nay its the GOAL of BH - to fight Sabre holding jedi, then its cert should be recon.


regarding change. stop the whining, this game changes all the time. what about all the pre cu stuff ya had? and in this case, if they just flip the certs, it should be NP. You still have a great set of armor. (i would LOVE my 8k+ set of asoult to turn into +8k recon )


Only prob i see, are players that have armor filled with SEA's and even ADK'dparts. they should allow a refit, with the adk popping offANDgetting back the SEA's. but they proly wont do this. so this great idea, that i would LOVE to see, proly wont happen.





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PedricCuff
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:20 am
#19

I'm a BH/Pistoleer, and I have full cert to wear assault or recon armor. Naturally, I wear recon. Having just spent 1.8 million on a suit of Scout Trooper and the FP to biolink, I don't think we need to change the certs. We have the option to choose which 2nd elite prof to master, and thus get new certs. I.e. if you wanted recon certs, you would go pistoleer. If we give recon certs to CMs for example, that gives us a little too much power IMO.


Just my thoughts.





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NoStyleGuy
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:28 am
#20

i agree BH should get At least battle armor, if not recon. I think Melee professions should get certed for Assult since they are the Tanks in PvE



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eiawo
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:31 am
#21






Nakahs wrote:
I dont support this idea since converting means changing high end crafted armor into crap standard stats.

I would hate to lose my Health enhanced max protecion enhanced Mandalorian and BH amror into 5k standard crap.

This idea should have been discussed before CU now its too late or we will face the fact all armor we having now will be changed to crap.

But i agree that BH cert should have been energy armor and not kinetic armor since 100% of our content is against energy weapons. However now its too late....





I completely agree, this is something that should have happened a long time ago but now is not the time to revamp assault armor...it is what it is and most BH would end up taking a secondary prof that doesnt have assault armor mit. bonuses anyway, I am currently MBH/MCM/Pistoleer 0-0-0-4 and I wear tantel on just about every mission eventhough I dont have the mitigation of a master pistoleer would, I am still able to move around pretty well in it.
Sundal
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:34 am
#22


I'm with you on this Samous.


The problem is... most people think you have to be CL80 to be viable in PvP, therefore most people have 2 types of armor certification from both MBH and another masterprofession. That's probably why it's not really an issue for those players.


But, imo, changing MBH armor tosaybattle wouldallow and maybe even promote stacking different professions together for more diversepvp combinations.

xDiggerx
Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:54 am
#23

I would totally support a switch for BH to be certed to Battle Armor. It's the logical approach and would only make sense. With that said, with the change would need to be a token armor respec option where folks with huge dollars invested in modded/stated armor can convert it over.


As for Bounty Hunter Armor (craftable from looted appearance schematics). How about we make it certed to BOUNTY HUNTERS only. Sure, convert it to Battle as stated above....but also make is Master Bounty Hunter Certified. After all, it's Bounty Hunter Armor.....why should another profession get to wear it? This would keep our look unique and give some bonus to being a bounty hunter.







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O0oHalfLifeo0O
Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:07 pm
#24

I say leave it as it is and go on to other issues...




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KammaRocca
Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:18 pm
#25






Stecoli wrote:


MRifle has Recon ROF and DMG mitigation, so if you changed MBH to recon, they would get DOUBLE the mitigation where MCM/MDOC would NOT.


Best left as it is IMO.






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Achyutathewook
Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:16 pm
#26






SamousNemo wrote:




  • Reconnaissance Armor receives a nominal bonus to energy protection and a nominal penalty to kinetic damage protection. This can be conceptualized as a free energy layer.

  • Battle Armor has an even protection against all damage types - no modifiers at all.

  • Assault Armor receives a nominal bonus to kinetic protection and a nominal penalty to energy damage protection. This can be conceptualized as a free kinetic layer.


  • As we all know Bounty Hunters are certified for Assault Armor types. Primarily this includes Composite, Chitin, Black Sun (aka Bounty Hunter), and Mandolorian armor.


    Unfortunately most of the combat Bounty Hunters see is against Energy weaponry (e.g. most blasters and all light sabers). This leads most Bounty Hunters to pick up an additional profession to get an armor cert that better suits his/her needs.


    Of course every combatant is required to pick up another profession to be viable, however our current certs have a few additional drawbacks


    #1 Our ideal armor appearances, Black Sun and Mandolorian, are not very practical in the type of combat we face. This leads both appearances to be used as more of a cosmetic suit to brag about than to actually serve as protection


    #2 Many hunters feel pigeon-holed into taking a certain secondary prof to gain the ideal armor cert


    Now although I cannot speak for other professions, I was curious to hear what you all thought. Primarily I am curious to hear what you think about possibly changing our armor certification to Recon or Battle. Keep in mind of course that Black Sun and Mandalorian armor would also need to be changed to Recon or Battletypes in order that we could wear them. This would alsogrant other professions access to our most coveted armor appearances.

    For clarification and easy reference, the current professional certs are as follows

    Assault: Bounty Hunter, Commando, Squad Leader


    Battle: Carbineer, Combat Medic, Creature Handler, Doctor, Fencer, Pikeman, Ranger, Swordsman


    Recon: Pistoleer, Rifleman, Smuggler


    Message Edited by SamousNemo on 10-15-2005 11:20 AM




    If we cant change BH to Recon or Battle, which I would prefer Recon (Jedi Hunting), we should at least have the BH and Mando armor with high energy stats... Meaning those 2 types of armor should have at least 7k in energy protection.



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