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riotcontrol

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:06 am

Reserved for comments after I see some TC results (are the names/payouts visible after you talk to the Spynet etc.).

Based on my presumptions: a horrible idea that shows that the designers know very little about the actual Jedi/BH system in practice, as well as the wishes of the "normal" (non-powergaming, non-exploiting, roleplaying) playerbase.

Message Edited by riotcontrol on 07-05-2005 08:06 PM

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Josue15

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:07 am

#15

This is great, we all know this was being use to grief players by most BH'er.

I'm sorry a 3 on 1 is not a good fight no matter how you look at it. With the way root can be chain, any Jedi with stasis can be take down by 2 BH easy.

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Tamianx

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:07 am

#16

Saarkai wrote:

wildcard1973 wrote:

Removal of names is kinda good since it prevents the deliberitae greifing of one particular Jedi, and eliminates the ability for Jedi to claim they're being greifed by one BH since mission is luck of the draw.

I'm sure there are other and better ways to accomplish this. Without breaking the BH proffession. How am I supposed to avoid hunting low level paddies now?

Your not .. but as the level is now random the paddie wont have as many attacks on him/her by a BH focused on low level jedi's. Balances itself out while preventing griefing. There still a exploit possible, and suggested a means to stop that in a post above.

Canvas

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:07 am

#17

Saarkai wrote:

This is absolutly game breaking. The worst idea i have ever heard of. Not only does it not make ANY sense RP wise, it doesn't make any sense game wise.

Also, look for kashyyyk to become a complete jedi safe haven now. Without the name, how are you going to hunt on kashyyk? Run around tabbing through everything till you pick up your mark?

QFE.

Iam speechless. Might as well take player bounties out of the game.

Which faction? Which guild? Friend of foe? Which level, novice padawan or full template? Online or offline? Kashyyyk?

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Hasun

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:07 am

#18

This is going to start more problems than it solves

BH's will be forced to hunt there own faction

BH's will be forced to hunt there own guild mates

BH's won't be able to use missions to impact the GCW on there server

BH's will get the same payout for working there butts of killling a full template as they do for a 3 hit paddie kill

I just hope we get a respec token again as i can't see any reason to be BH anymore. The challange is gone, I will be forced to kill half templates instead of the challange of killing full templates. instead of taking missions on paople I know will fight me,I will be spending my game time looking for a jedi who's name I don't know on Kashyyyk, with no way of tracking them.

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lbfoofoo

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:08 am

#19

how the hell are we supposed to know who to target? Are we supposed to just tab and fire in the hopes one of them is not "invalid target". This is stupid. We better get the name at some point, hopefully after we talk to the spynet or something. This just shows that all the devs are jedi who can't pvp and are tired of getting thier a$$ kicked. I really do hope that the servers get flooded with jedi that no one will want to play the game anymore. This is ridiculous

wgarth

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:08 am

#20

This is a very frustrating implementation, if it in fact gets put into place. I have been a BH since I started the game, and an MBH since last fall, and frankly, enjoy hunting Jedi. However, I don't enjoy fruitless missions hunting my friends, guilldmates, or Jedi that I have already hunted and killed.

As a player who has played actively for two years, I know a lot of p[layers on my server, and regardless of our chosen roles, I chose to not hunt my friends. I also choose to not hunt (and kill)the same Jedi more than once. And certainly SOE cannot expect me to hunt my guildmates (Unless I belonged to an all BH guild and one of them decided to get glowy :smileyvery-happy

So, at this point, after investing in time, effort, droids, spices and foods, I need to kill each Jedi that I hunt. I cannot and will not invest the time, etc. and eventually locate my mark and walk away if they are a friend or someone that I have hunted before.

Now, I have a choice, and I think that I choose to hang up my hat and walk away from the entire situation. How many BHs will do that? What happens to the game then?

Raetiak Vylo - Former MBH / Jedi - now Elder Jedi
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RazaelDemron

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:09 am

#21

It's one of the worst ideas they've ever "planned" on implementing. Without tracking working on Kashyyyk, it's like they've now not only done the equivalent of breaking droids, but they're following it up by breaking player informants. And to top it off by not letting the BH have any clue if he can complete it at all by removing identification of Jedi level is rediculous. Very disparaging day for all BHs who aren't BH just to hold onto friend's missions.

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MsNiL

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:09 am

#22

On short term it fixes some of the issues regarding the BH terminals.

It removes the "personal" bounties, making sure bounty hunting is about bounty hunting, not a ticket to make up about personal vendettas or a gcw tactic (tracking pvp players, or locking them out from heals).

On negative term, it makes me as a master healer a victim of bounties again. Previously I could hide under my 226k tag, masking myself as a Master Defender, but now I cant anymore. Going to be rough. (ok, im just kidding about the last statement. While partially true, there are greater issues).

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Sazars

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:10 am

#23

if they want it to be jedi vs bh 1 vs 1 why cant they just lower the cap from 5 people being able to have the jedis mission to 1 player? This is idiotic.

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Hasun

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:10 am

#24

Canvas wrote:

Saarkai wrote:

This is absolutly game breaking. The worst idea i have ever heard of. Not only does it not make ANY sense RP wise, it doesn't make any sense game wise.

Also, look for kashyyyk to become a complete jedi safe haven now. Without the name, how are you going to hunt on kashyyk? Run around tabbing through everything till you pick up your mark?

QFE.

Iam speechless. Might as well take player bounties out of the game.

Which faction? Which guild? Friend of foe? Which level, novice padawan or full template? Online or offline? Kashyyyk?

Its hard enough to hunt a jedi on Kashyyyk as it is, now how do you look for a jedi who's name you do not know?. Its gone from looking for a needle in a haystack, to a straw coloured needle in a haystack.

Kravan/Punker/Hasun/-Denny- Crane
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RAMBOW

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:10 am

#25

Im just reposting what I had posted in another thread about 2 weeks ago... needless to say if these terminal changes go live this game will loose atleast 1 long time BH. I will not hunt in a dumbed down version of BH.

Sorry in advance if reading this post you think im being a bit harsh... But I have been a BH for a long time and I dont want to see the professions I love to get dulled down because of the jedi constent whining about us killing them.

On my server, Chilastra, We have probably some of the best Bounty Hunters in the game... I dont say that lightly either. Im not talking about kill counts or fighting ability, Im talking about the actual "hunting". We have a long history of keeping tabs on all jedi on the server. It started with a list of jedi names started way back when jedi first unlocked... We had the first ever completed jedi mission on our server with some of the foundations for the BH system we have developed in place.

Recently most of these Bounty Hunters were united under 1 PA <MD>. While in this guild and watching us work together you really get a feel for what I always though BH should be. One of our newer more unexperienced members would ask about a certain jedi, and the vets would be able to tell him... Where the jedi hunts, what PA he is in, what faction, where his houses are that he might run to ect ect ect.... Vital Information for a true BH.

The fact is we do have these lists... We know everything we can about hundreds of jedi on our server. We have the Waypoints of there houses, cities, ect in our datapads.

If you take away our right to see thier names at the terminal, you will make us nothing but nameless waypoint chasers. Even if you give us names when we get the probe droid back.. it isnt the same at all.

The jedi say its unfair that BHs can pick and choose padawans and "bottom feed" once again, It seems to me the Jedi are blaming US for them being on the terms. Im all for giving them a Master/Aprentice system or perhaps no Visablity for groups ect.... Personally I like to hunt padawans because they still have something to loose. (now all the jedi will say im just in it to grief another player ect). What fun is jedi if you have nothing to loose? What fun is BHing against a mark that has nothing to loose? That would just be normal PvP, which I can find alot more of just by joining a group and going SF.

Please dont ruin the Bounty Hunter system by making us nothing but waypoint chasers.

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lunas

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:11 am

#26

It has potential. If you read the description on the missions we get now it says stuff like i saw a jedi do this from a distance so how are they supposed to know the name of the jedi anyway. SO name removal is fine. Showing faction is great it's gonna save alot of time for those of us that don't hunt same faction. It will also cut down on some of the hate tells from people that got killed by a BH of the same faction cus the bh had just traked down 3 jedi of the same faction in a row and just said screw it on the last one and killed him. Only showing online jedi is a must. Not showing mission payout has got to go though. What bh in there right mind would take a mission without knowing the payout. I want you to go kill this jedi for me. He might be a guardian he might be a padawan and after i can confirm that you kiled the jedi i'll give you what i feal is fair ok.

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