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Thread: MBH MCM 1 tree of ranged vs MBH M(ranged) CM 4/0/0/0

Algren_Earth-Stormer
Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:27 pm
#14

My two cents..... why bother with Rifles.... you can do some nice damage with sniper shot.... but it's seems to only be good for a use then it's all out kiting. You have high damage weapons... but shoot slow, and unless you are a wookie, don't have the option of a kinetic weapon (best over all cause of PSGs)


Now, with MBH / MPist / Carb 0440, I can out damage 98% of other players on my server.... using my pistol. Do NOT underestimate the DPS of alternating Adv Crit and Imp Leg Shot. I found it did more damage than I could do with my uber heavy lightning rifle and MBH / MRifle / Pistol 0404.



Now, for your template.......


MBH / MPist / CM4000 is very well balanced for all things... and you are probably either best or second best ranged tank in game. Fairly easy template to play.


MBH / MCM / Pist 0400 or Pist 0004 or Carb 0400 - VERY powerfull versus Jedi (and against any build that uses mind).... however, quite a bit more difficult to use, but as said, very powerfull verses Jedi.




Choosing a tree of ranged for you MBH/ MCM.... there are 3 choices in my book..... (and it does not include rifles.... not that they aren't good, but you run slow, low melee def, and stuck with energy damage. IMO, rifles don't work well in One on One pvp... but in open gcw pvp....... different story)


Pistol 0400 - Extra accuracy to hit a touch harder, very good run speed for kiting, and disarm shot before you heal or use a duelistic stance to cut down on damage taken.


Pistols 0004 - Extra melee defense to mitigate a bit more, very good run speed for kiting, and Stopping shot to root your target for up to 20 sec


Carbs 0400 - Bunches of extra acc to hit a bit harder, decent run speed for kiting, and a snare to improve kiting and Imp Leg Shot for alternating with adv crit shot for high damage shooting!



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Maco Cearo Elder Jedi (formerly MBH / MPist / Carb 0440)
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Valkyrie Elder MBH / MCM / Pist 0003 (FOTM)
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Account canceled due to NGE
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You can find me in Eve Online (www.eve-online.com) as Maco Dragoon
James1701
Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:05 am
#15






RGhost wrote:

I just started using the RIS yesterday, Ive been using Comp...and I don't seem to do any better also.... I just hunted a jedi and I want to know how the hell my paralyze unrooted with in 2 seconds I didnt get one hit on the guy before he had KD and /deathblow me......i am soo starting to hate the CU




If you have ANY dot on the Jedi before you use paralyze, the paralyze will break. Jedi cannot have any damage from dots or shots for paralyze to work.




Sirion - Elder Jedi
Darkshear
Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:06 am
#16


im locing the feedback guys, i would like some information on what some of the better skills in MCM are and why they are so hot.




i really appreciate everything im hearing.




i was told battle armor has the best energy protection, just for the record.

KiithWarrior
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:41 am
#17


battle armour has good all around protection. Its just that we are not certified for it. I'm not sure if this really makes a difference or not.



Can you negate the mitigation problems through food, ca's and aa's? If you can then I would go for battle armour.


Message Edited by KiithWarrior on 08-23-2005 03:41 PM



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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:27 am
#18






KiithWarrior wrote:







Algren_Earth-Stormer wrote:





KiithWarrior wrote:






RGhost wrote:


Can someone give me an opinion....


Im currently a MBH/MCarbs/x-x-x-3 CM.....


Now after reading this thread and taking in advice from some of my friends, due to arecent string offailures, I am wondering how well Master Combat Medic will really work, I mean is it worthdropping toCarbsx-4-x-x, What I really mean to ask is how much am i losingout on, and alsoshould I just grind out pistols,thats all everyone seems to like, but I also like the idea of making the jedi unable to attack me,cause i seem to takedamage at an alarming rate even in a suit of 6K+ R.I.S butby the sound of the posts above it seems alright but, I don't want to risk anything and would like anothersolid opinion


I am a pre-CU BH just comming back to the gamebut Im not very goodwith the CU lol


Thanks


Message Edited by RGhost on 08-22-200506:10 AM






You may want to change the armour that you're using. RIS is for melee profs and is classified as battle armour. What you need is assault armour, i.e composite, bone etc. I think the reason why you're taking so much damage is due to this.



Sell the RIS you should get a good price for it and then by some assault armour. See how your template works and then change if you're still having trouble.








That is the worst advice EVER!

- RIS is very good for hunting jedi..... it's not the best... but it's very good. I prefer recon armor for higher energy resist.

- Assault armor is the WORST armor for hunting jedi, since it has LOW energy resist.


If you want to keep using MCarbs.... i suggest changing to CM 4000 for the heals. Since without master CM, the debuffs/bleeds don't always hit, not as strong, etc. So it's more important to simply tank. With MBH / MCarbs you have the highest sustained DPS in the game with alternating Adv Critical shot and Imp leg shot.





Didn't think that BH's could where RIS. What about the armour mitigation? You could use a PSG for energy protection.






Okay, you are obviously inexperienced as a BH, if you even are one. I would say you are so inexperienced as to not be qualified to give advice yet.


- Any successfull MBH is also going to have a second combat Mastery (Pistols, Carbines, Rifles, Combat Medic, Doctor). Each one of those proffessions comes with either Recon or Battle armor certifications. Both haver better energy resist than assault. Therefore, MBHs can hunt in Battle or Recon armor.


- There is no way whatsoever to reduce armor movement / speed / rate of fire mitigations with food, ca/aa, or clothing.


- PSGs only work against RANGED energy damage..... LS is melee (yes, even when they throw em), so they won't help.





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Maco Cearo Elder Jedi (formerly MBH / MPist / Carb 0440)
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Valkyrie Elder MBH / MCM / Pist 0003 (FOTM)
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Account canceled due to NGE
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You can find me in Eve Online (www.eve-online.com) as Maco Dragoon
Krypt-Keeper
Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:53 am
#19

My alt was MBH/MCM and he did fine, now he is MBH/MLS/medic 0010 and does alot better, lol. This guy is master smuggler/BH and does great also. Its not what ya have, its how ya use it.
KiithWarrior
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:37 am
#20






Algren_Earth-Stormer wrote:





KiithWarrior wrote:







Algren_Earth-Stormer wrote:





KiithWarrior wrote:






RGhost wrote:


Can someone give me an opinion....


Im currently a MBH/MCarbs/x-x-x-3 CM.....


Now after reading this thread and taking in advice from some of my friends, due to arecent string offailures, I am wondering how well Master Combat Medic will really work, I mean is it worthdropping toCarbsx-4-x-x, What I really mean to ask is how much am i losingout on, and alsoshould I just grind out pistols,thats all everyone seems to like, but I also like the idea of making the jedi unable to attack me,cause i seem to takedamage at an alarming rate even in a suit of 6K+ R.I.S butby the sound of the posts above it seems alright but, I don't want to risk anything and would like anothersolid opinion


I am a pre-CU BH just comming back to the gamebut Im not very goodwith the CU lol


Thanks


Message Edited by RGhost on 08-22-200506:10 AM






You may want to change the armour that you're using. RIS is for melee profs and is classified as battle armour. What you need is assault armour, i.e composite, bone etc. I think the reason why you're taking so much damage is due to this.



Sell the RIS you should get a good price for it and then by some assault armour. See how your template works and then change if you're still having trouble.








That is the worst advice EVER!

- RIS is very good for hunting jedi..... it's not the best... but it's very good. I prefer recon armor for higher energy resist.

- Assault armor is the WORST armor for hunting jedi, since it has LOW energy resist.


If you want to keep using MCarbs.... i suggest changing to CM 4000 for the heals. Since without master CM, the debuffs/bleeds don't always hit, not as strong, etc. So it's more important to simply tank. With MBH / MCarbs you have the highest sustained DPS in the game with alternating Adv Critical shot and Imp leg shot.





Didn't think that BH's could where RIS. What about the armour mitigation? You could use a PSG for energy protection.






Okay, you are obviously inexperienced as a BH, if you even are one. I would say you are so inexperienced as to not be qualified to give advice yet.


- Any successfull MBH is also going to have a second combat Mastery (Pistols, Carbines, Rifles, Combat Medic, Doctor). Each one of those proffessions comes with either Recon or Battle armor certifications. Both haver better energy resist than assault. Therefore, MBHs can hunt in Battle or Recon armor.


- There is no way whatsoever to reduce armor movement / speed / rate of fire mitigations with food, ca/aa, or clothing.


- PSGs only work against RANGED energy damage..... LS is melee (yes, even when they throw em), so they won't help.







You're correct, i was well off with the armour. Always good to be corrected. Thanks.





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