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Thread: How's my gun stack up? What do you think...

aekeem
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:02 pm
#14






Dejin24 wrote:


Anyone got a link to proove that theory ?? ^ Also whats so bad about blast?


Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 03:35 PM





just look at some weapons made with the scopes, do you think its just coincidence that EVERY kinetic gun turned into energy damage when a scope was used?
MD_Bathar
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:21 pm
#15






Dejin24 wrote:



Starsider Server

Gun is a High capacity Scatter Pistol (Special made)


1.31 speed, 410-1061damage, +64 point Accuracy Bonus, 31.5% Wound, 69 SAC, 576.9 Modified DPS.


This is unpupped and all natural stats, except smuggler slice, tell me what you think!


Correction, 948 is base damage, 556 is modified base dps. It was pupped, forgot I had a pup on it, sorry. Regardless, what do you think heh.


Just another update from a question below, the Damage type is ENERGY and the UNMOD DPS is around 408.

Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 09:46 AM


Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 10:56 AM




I had a weaponsmith build me a scatter pistol with the looted parts and had it sliced for speed. This is the result:


High Capacity Scatter Pistol

Base Speed 2.02 (1.78 sliced for speed)

Damage 346 - 946

Accuracy Bonus 62

Est Dps 320.12 (363 new Dps after slice)

Sac 65









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aekeem
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:23 pm
#16






WookieOgre wrote:





Dejin24 wrote:



Starsider Server

Gun is a High capacity Scatter Pistol (Special made)


1.31 speed, 410-1061damage, +64 point Accuracy Bonus, 31.5% Wound, 69 SAC, 576.9 Modified DPS.


This is unpupped and all natural stats, except smuggler slice, tell me what you think!


Correction, 948 is base damage, 556 is modified base dps. It was pupped, forgot I had a pup on it, sorry. Regardless, what do you think heh.


Just another update from a question below, the Damage type is ENERGY and the UNMOD DPS is around 408.

Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 09:46 AM


Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 10:56 AM





Yeah people are discussing this on the WS forum. With the looted scopes and powercells from BH marks you can cap near all 3 major stats on a weapon. Damage, AC, and speed. Add to that the +64 accuracy and you have a weapon that is unmatched (well until that person gets the goods to make one as well lol)


Problem is this creates a situation where the loot will be nerfed, it's just a matter of time IMO. I'm glad I looted 9 +64 accuracy-.74 speed scopes as well as another 8 +62 accuracy -.6 speed scopes. Hoping to get some nice powercells since they average between 150-190 in damage with -6 to -8 in AC. Those are truely uber components, the +64 scope is just icing on the cake.






would you care to chime in on this issue in the thread labelled "why whining about the new loot is bad" or something like that?
WookieOgre
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:37 pm
#17






aekeem wrote:





WookieOgre wrote:





Dejin24 wrote:



Starsider Server

Gun is a High capacity Scatter Pistol (Special made)


1.31 speed, 410-1061damage, +64 point Accuracy Bonus, 31.5% Wound, 69 SAC, 576.9 Modified DPS.


This is unpupped and all natural stats, except smuggler slice, tell me what you think!


Correction, 948 is base damage, 556 is modified base dps. It was pupped, forgot I had a pup on it, sorry. Regardless, what do you think heh.


Just another update from a question below, the Damage type is ENERGY and the UNMOD DPS is around 408.

Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 09:46 AM


Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 10:56 AM





Yeah people are discussing this on the WS forum. With the looted scopes and powercells from BH marks you can cap near all 3 major stats on a weapon. Damage, AC, and speed. Add to that the +64 accuracy and you have a weapon that is unmatched (well until that person gets the goods to make one as well lol)


Problem is this creates a situation where the loot will be nerfed, it's just a matter of time IMO. I'm glad I looted 9 +64 accuracy-.74 speed scopes as well as another 8 +62 accuracy -.6 speed scopes. Hoping to get some nice powercells since they average between 150-190 in damage with -6 to -8 in AC. Those are truely uber components, the +64 scope is just icing on the cake.






would you care to chime in on this issue in the thread labelled "why whining about the new loot is bad" or something like that?






Already have. But to be clear personally I have no problems with the new loot. It's the people who have the devs ear that will eventually win the argument. I think the silly complaints like SEA's, slicing components are just that, silly. However there can be a valid argument made if the new weapon componets create a situation where people are making weapons the devs never intended to be possible (low sac,low speed, high damage)


Again I'm just looking at all the whining, it's almost a given something is going to get nerfed here just a matter of when. After seeing all the whining done about the Jedi profession, rest assured nothing is 100% resistant to the dev nerf bat.


aekeem
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:39 pm
#18






WookieOgre wrote:





aekeem wrote:





WookieOgre wrote:





Dejin24 wrote:



Starsider Server

Gun is a High capacity Scatter Pistol (Special made)


1.31 speed, 410-1061damage, +64 point Accuracy Bonus, 31.5% Wound, 69 SAC, 576.9 Modified DPS.


This is unpupped and all natural stats, except smuggler slice, tell me what you think!


Correction, 948 is base damage, 556 is modified base dps. It was pupped, forgot I had a pup on it, sorry. Regardless, what do you think heh.


Just another update from a question below, the Damage type is ENERGY and the UNMOD DPS is around 408.

Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 09:46 AM


Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 10:56 AM





Yeah people are discussing this on the WS forum. With the looted scopes and powercells from BH marks you can cap near all 3 major stats on a weapon. Damage, AC, and speed. Add to that the +64 accuracy and you have a weapon that is unmatched (well until that person gets the goods to make one as well lol)


Problem is this creates a situation where the loot will be nerfed, it's just a matter of time IMO. I'm glad I looted 9 +64 accuracy-.74 speed scopes as well as another 8 +62 accuracy -.6 speed scopes. Hoping to get some nice powercells since they average between 150-190 in damage with -6 to -8 in AC. Those are truely uber components, the +64 scope is just icing on the cake.






would you care to chime in on this issue in the thread labelled "why whining about the new loot is bad" or something like that?






Already have. But to be clear personally I have no problems with the new loot. It's the people who have the devs ear that will eventually win the argument. I think the silly complaints like SEA's, slicing components are just that, silly. However there can be a valid argument made if the new weapon componets create a situation where people are making weapons the devs never intended to be possible (low sac,low speed, high damage)


Again I'm just looking at all the whining, it's almost a given something is going to get nerfed here just a matter of when. After seeing all the whining done about the Jedi profession, rest assured nothing is 100% resistant to the dev nerf bat.







the thread that's currently at the top, like 53 posts as of now. they don't seem to understand how these loots create imbalance.
MD_Bathar
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:59 pm
#19


How does this create imbalance when there are caps to the stats of weapons? Those caps are what the dev's believed should be the maximum allowable limit.


Just because others are able to have these weapons made doesn't mean they should be nerfed. Everyone has the same chance of looting these as the next guy. Don't think that these will only be limited to BH missions, I have a feeling they will start showing up on other NPC's.


Message Edited by MD_Bathar on 08-08-2005 01:59 PM






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WookieOgre
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:04 pm
#20






MD_Bathar wrote:


How does this create imbalance when there are caps to the stats of weapons? Those caps are what the dev's believed should be the maximum allowable limit.


Just because others are able to have these weapons made doesn't mean they should be nerfed. Everyone has the same chance of looting these as the next guy. Don't think that these will only be limited to BH missions, I have a feeling they will start showing up on other NPC's.



Message Edited by MD_Bathar on 08-08-2005 01:59 PM





I believe the argument is the what were the devs intentions for weapons to be at......was it intended to have a weapon capped at all three major stats. If the answer is yes, then nothing should change. If the answer is no, then I think they are going to nerf something lol.


Hopefully they find a reason not to nerf it, but I'm not very optimistic.


MD_Bathar
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:12 pm
#21






WookieOgre wrote:





MD_Bathar wrote:


How does this create imbalance when there are caps to the stats of weapons? Those caps are what the dev's believed should be the maximum allowable limit.


Just because others are able to have these weapons made doesn't mean they should be nerfed. Everyone has the same chance of looting these as the next guy. Don't think that these will only be limited to BH missions, I have a feeling they will start showing up on other NPC's.



Message Edited by MD_Bathar on 08-08-2005 01:59 PM





I believe the argument is the what were the devs intentions for weapons to be at......was it intended to have a weapon capped at all three major stats. If the answer is yes, then nothing should change. If the answer is no, then I think they are going to nerf something lol.


Hopefully they find a reason not to nerf it, but I'm not very optimistic.






LOL It just crack up about some people on this game. All before this occurred you heard: How come we don't get good loot? Jedi are the onlytoon that can beat high end mobs and get the best loot. I can't get anything from this area cause it is camped. Then boom, your very own loot machine comes into play. It happens that it drops some nice parts, that only your profession can get at the moment and all you here is nerf the loot. LOL






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aekeem
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:30 am
#22

due to the current bug with scopes, ANY gun that should be kinetic will be energy and ANY gun that should be energy will be blast.
Dejin24
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:34 am
#23


Anyone got a link to proove that theory ?? ^ Also whats so bad about blast?

Message Edited by Dejin24 on 08-08-2005 03:35 PM



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NoStyleGuy
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:59 am
#24

it doesn't really exist. it does 1 dmg



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