Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Swordsman
Vivica
Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:35 pm
#14
Swordsman has the strongest mind hit in the game, but its harder to speedcap them, you will need about +20 in speedtapes, or FS skills if you want to wield those powerhammers at 1.0 sec speed
BoveApako
Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:48 pm
#15
Swordsman is ideal for jedi, if you go for the mind incap , with a medium powered vk vs. a medium powered scythe the swordsman has DOUBLE the dps of a tkm with mind hit. Sure it hits slower but it hits much harder. Although straight up damage wise swordsman beats tkm out,tkm has more toughness, more state effects, and a dizzy/kd. Its a toss up though.A swordsman that dabbles in tkfor the dizzy/kd would be good but the weaponswitch delay gets rid of this. I would talk to a swordsman/bh though, it seems it would be more effective.
ebretz
Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:56 pm
#16
i am a swordsman/bh, i do reasonably well againsty jedi in grps, but solo i get pwned
the reason i think is due to the lack of defense a swordman has, the slow speed and the low toughness compared with tkm and fencer.
23 melee defense at master swords makes using /center worthless.
my friend has a bh/fencer template, also has the pistoleer defense and dodge lines, and damn does he pwn, with dodge food and an acklay gaffi baton he can solo knights, and jedi rarely hit him through his dodge.
oh and i never go for the mind incap, jedi can heal each pool equally well, we're not talking about a regular player! I get a speed sliced scythe and use 2h hit 3 the most powerful attackand go for all pools, that way the jedi spends their time healing all their pools not just the 1, and the more time they are healing the better for the swordsman.
Message Edited by ebretz on 09-24-2004 10:00 AM
LordMarr
Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:58 pm
#17
I am a Jedi hunter with Master Swordsman, Bounty Hunter 3400, and 4444 force combat sensitivity. Its alot more fun fighting jedis, than using ranged weopons for dealing out damage.
I use basically 2 different stategies for taking down jedis.
1. if the jedi is out in the wilderness, i equipt my laser carbine (523 max damage) and attack the jedi from afar, starting with confusion shot, i probably do up to 5 consfusion shots to get the dizzy/stun to stick, all this time the jedi is running towards, me, i am running backwards to buy some more time, then i start with fireknockdown/ action shot 1 combos to try and knock em down with either direct KD or by a posture change. If the jedi trys to flee, carbines are your best friends to stop em. When the jedi gets with 20 to 30 meters, i proceed to war cry em, then i swicth to my scythe, ( power hammer does more damage but the accurracy is bad on them). Hit my CoB and intimidate macro,then i proceed to attack the mind, and thier mind goes down fast. The spend more time force healing than attacking me. If i was unable to knockdown/posture change them with my carbines then i do lunge attack with my scythe to posture change them and usually the dizzy knocks them down. Jedi will either die or run away. If they run away then i bust out the carbine and try to KD.
2. if the jedi is in a crowded area or city, then i equipt my scythe and bring out my bomb droid and detonate it, at the same time i attack their health with two handed hit 3, with also has a dizzy, the jedi will usually try to get away then use a two handed lunge. The bomb droids too most damage to health and action, if the jedi is unbuffed he will die fast, if the jedi is buffed except for hismindthen i just do head hits instead. if the jedi even survives all these and runs away, then i switch to my carbs and try to kd.
Major problem with this template is thier is no medic skills and lacks defense. If the jedi can go on the offense against you then you got problems, trick is to keep them playing defense and reacting to what you are doing,
also having a TEF is a big help, never duel a prepared jedi, you will lose too often, surpirse is our only advantage.
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J3diKill3r
Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:12 pm
#18
Eege wrote:
I posted the same question a while back and the response from a jedi was as follows (in not so many words)
2 handed swords were to slow and Jedi took them out quick.
TKA was a fight, but the Jedi one pretty quick
Fencer all but pwned the Jedi in pretty good timing.
I have guild memebers that are Jedi now and the agree that fencer is the jedi killing FOTM.
I've been a fencer for a while yet I can't kill Jedi
How do you do it?!
AspiringBountyHunter
Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:18 pm
#19
Bad thing about swordsman is the accuracy. TKM get a ton of it and swordsmen don't get near as much. Compound that with the fact that a powerhammer that you can get to speed cap with is still floating around -20 on accuracy mods, it don't look too good. Scythes aren't as bad on accuracy mods, but they still don't get to what a good set of VKs can get.
LordMarr
Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:22 pm
#20
get a damage sliced scythe and your good to go, power hammers do wicked damage but the accuracy and slow speed makes them miss to often to be reliable, with +12 melee speed plus the 75 with master swordsman you can speed cap with a speed sliced powerhammer.
quitch
Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:24 pm
#21
If area attack 3 does a dizzy, then I say take up swordsman for sure. Then you can land a duzzy and lunge the Jedi. The high damage mind hit would do well. Especially with a high power bomb droid.
razorblazor99
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:27 pm
#22
Has anyone tried pikeman?
I seen a lot of high max dmg pikes that would really give a jedi a hard time. They have decent def (more then swordsman anyway)
You could also get trick shot line for added def.
Guess the only problem would be that pikes best attack does posture down so it would be hard to keep a jedi down unless u switched attacks.
Dunno just wondering if anyone had any luck with pikeman as a bh.
I seen a lot of high max dmg pikes that would really give a jedi a hard time. They have decent def (more then swordsman anyway)
You could also get trick shot line for added def.
Guess the only problem would be that pikes best attack does posture down so it would be hard to keep a jedi down unless u switched attacks.
Dunno just wondering if anyone had any luck with pikeman as a bh.
FelixDarque1
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:49 pm
#23
Power hammers do Blast damage, and I have seen some UGLY ones out there, like one that was over 1k max damage and 3.x speed (this week).
Completely whacky 
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:45 am
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