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my problem with m powers isnt the damage they do to me, its how invincible they are combined with defender... I fought one for like an hour a while back before my mark sploited and i gave up

MAster powers is a fight that can possible end quickly on both players. With MCM you have the ability to out heal anything a MP can throw at you. However you have to play it smart. Its about whether you counter the jedi's attacks with yours hoping to get him healing first and therefore not attacking you OR whether you yourself heal (if needed) and let the jedi open up.

Its a battle of wits and courage fighting a MP, or kindalike a pistol dual. Do you have the courage to go toe to toe with each other and who is the first to back out and start healing.

GREATEST TIP I HAVE AGAINST SUCH TEMPLATES IS TO USE A FAST GUN. I have a 0.92 speed pupped damage capped 960 (or very close) gun with a sac of 69. I have, when a MP jedi has not been expecting it, killed a jedi in 3-5 seconds with 4 shots. Speed of attacks is the key.

EDIT - USE thyroid rupture to lower those lightning attacks and force states. A powers jedi who knows what they're doing can throw out massive amounts of damage to a non-force sensative profession using kd's, states and choke/lightning

Orran Behime (MBH on flurry)

Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-30-2005 04:24 AM

There is a thread in the Jedi forum on the same discussion, I have yet to lose to a single bounty hunter and I get an average of 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 visits a day everytime I log on. Mainly 9 out of 10 bounty hunters that comes for me are combat medics, I am able to outdo their damage and it isn't that hard as a master force wielder but I believe it might be in combination with my high damage lightsaber as well. You may be correct though, it takes a smart PvPer to know how to use master force wielder.

In fact I was the only one able to incap the TKM/doctor that was dueling people in mining outpost a few weeks ago and even all the Jedi were not able to win his duels.

The high energy resist AB sliced armor does not give us the edge vs. a powers. Against saber users, that armor combined with the wicked heals is a tough combo.

There are definitely tricks to use against a powers though. If possible, drag him into a mob or lair, it will either prevent him from using his host of AOE attacks or it will aggro the group onto him.

Keep your mind regen as high as possible. Because of the damage they do, you will heal more. In fact you basically have to weather their attacks via heals. If they are the usual hit and cloak type, use their cloak time to regen your mind, but keep the dots running on them, (prior to cloaking, not by exploiting) and stay close as to continually burn their force. Also, keep a droid out to help in that process.

Get +25 Intimidate SEA's.

Unlike most marks where you work the mind via traumatize, continue to do so with a powers, but also focus on the action with Hemmorage and be timely with KD's using a Bomb droid while they are on a lengthened KD due to action burn.

Unlike other Jedi where this template usually wears out the mind via traumatize, I've found that I have to wear out the force of a powers user.

Be sure to keep them ED'd as they are just as apt to kite as you are and when things go south, like any Jedi they will try to run away, only they have cloak on their side as well so be sure to keep the seekers launched throughout the fight to pinpoint that location and try to burn that last bit of force from them.

Remember, on the front side of the fight, you will be healing much more than attacking, something you are not used to with the average saber Jedi, that's Ok,your heals are powerful, just keep your mind up and weather his storm, he will burn himself out and THEN you unleash your offense on him.

My tactics for a powers guy anyway, hope it helps.

Any BHs have luck with Doc 4xx4 instead of MCM vs M powers? You could do something along the lines of MBH, Carbs 44xx, and Doc 4xx4.

I like improved bacta infusion myself due to the fact it is a HoT. So you can be KDed or whatever and it will still heal you. Of course they nerfed the doc speed buff and it's still good. I am thinking extra action and mind regen would help. Also I'd say use the best food|drink you can to boost up your mind. Everyone really ought to have a few decent kinetic damage weapons on them to boot for PvP.

I am going to try M carbs, BH x44x, and Doc 4xx4 for general PvP for awhile to see how I like it.

Message Edited by Xoreshear on 08-30-2005 10:55 AM

What type of damage does the master powers do? is it still energy or is it kinetic?

I have 6556/ 6556 RIS so would not notice a diffference... And I have not had much problems with powers (except one that was landing 2 lightning hitsin the exact same second almost every second.. which I think was a 3rd party type sploit)

However, if A BH as energy armor and powers do kinetic damage it would explain alot.

Choke bypasses all armor. Lightning is energy dmg.

"Choke bypasses all armor. Lightning is energy dmg."

Nope, Lightning is electrical, it isn't energy nor kinetic and lightning has the tendancy to occasionally bypass armor completely as well.

As for BH/Doc, seems MBH/Pistoleer 0404/Doctor 4004 seems viable.

If that BH didn't drop a traumatize on you, he was probably a bad bounty hunter / combat medic.

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Swinder wrote:

I hade my first encounter with a cm bh today, And he died, Now i don't get hunt much but when i do it's not from a cm bh. But i heard the cn bh is a tuff bh, SO why do they have a harde time with master powers? My temp hase master powers and some nice defence with root and all that other good stuff.

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I think it's a combination of twothings:

1) A Master Powers with any Sabers skills has a ton of damage potential and it shocks some players. They might be ready for a 725 damage saber and AB(with their sliced armor)but are they ready for Choke with lightning at the same time lol.

2) Hitting them from a ranged poistion does not give them the breathing room they typically need to recover. CM'sneed to take advantage of distance inorder to recover IF the Jedi has a high power saber. If the Jedi can continue to deal damage even from a ranged poistion it's pretty much game over for the CM (that's if the Jedi has the Saber and knows howto use Powers).