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Thread: Question for Blixtev -- since i know you visit here :)
Message Edited by Quiet420 on 07-25-2005 02:13 PM
Ariakkas wrote:
why do people keep bringing this up? it makes no sense to me....SOE is not going to run two versions of the game, this is like people who were begging them to put in an old world EQ server, with no expansions past kunark or something...it never happened, and neither will a non-jedi server.
EQ had Pvp and non pvp servers which had its own unique rulesets. I bet having a server with the village deleted would be much easier to program and maintain then worrying about a PK switch and balancing each profession amongst one another. UO had Siege periilous and the Trammel servers. Asherons call had pvp and non pvp servers, etc etc.
jedi aren't ruining the game, they are just the targets everyone likes to point the finger at, but then they themselves become jedi when they unlock it. classes are broken, noone will deny that, but making a non-jedi server won't fix broken classes, and fixing the broken classes would bring ALOT moe people back then a non-jedi server would.
Noted but lets put it this way. In an online game that is advertised to have all these professions. Do you think its good to have one alpha class? If you played EQ, how would you have felt back in the day when the vast majority of players were all grinding or shooting for lets say, a Wizard? SOE won't make a non jedi server because it would create another mess on their hands, that server would soon become way overpopulated.
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-25-200511:22 AM
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-25-2005 11:22 AM
MasterARP wrote:
I dont want this to come across as complaint, because you guys are doing a tremendous job in tweaking and responding to the community with back to back patches and fixes--much more than in the first year of SWG.
However, I do have a question--which im not sure was raised or addressed at the Fan Fest. As your customers we recognize the developers must be concious of the bottom line and marketablity of jedi. Hence the fact that jedi is easier to attain than ever before, and have overwhelmed the populations on all servers and litterally swamped any pvp within the GCW.
Fine I can accept that you may not want to change this. BUT, has SOE considered giving its customer base the OPTION to play on new servers that are specifically dedicated to having the ability to get a Jedi blocked? If you created a couple of new servers, this might actually ATTRACT back old customers that may have left under bitter circumstances due to the jedi overpopulation. I believe CHOICE is what sells. This is a win-win situation. Jedi can play thier end game without further hampering, and the rest of us can experiment on another server dedicated to a non-Jedi style of play. You can even call it a dedicated time line server
Thank you for listening, and hopefully checking into this for me
If anyone was at FanFest and this was asked and answered, please respond.
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-25-2005 12:16 PM
Ariakkas wrote:
why do people keep bringing this up? it makes no sense to me....SOE is not going to run two versions of the game, this is like people who were begging them to put in an old world EQ server, with no expansions past kunark or something...it never happened, and neither will a non-jedi server.
jedi aren't ruining the game, they are just the targets everyone likes to point the finger at, but then they themselves become jedi when they unlock it. classes are broken, noone will deny that, but making a non-jedi server won't fix broken classes, and fixing the broken classes would bring ALOT moe people back then a non-jedi server would.
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-25-2005 12:01 PM
Quiet420 wrote:
because if you make special servers with special rules, it makes things way more complex then they need to be...if you don't like jedi, don't unlock....and don't hunt jedi...and stick to guild warsbetween non jedi guilds.....there...now you have your non-jedi server.
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-25-2005 12:18 PM
Eraser_BH wrote:
Cada_Kai wrote:
I am saying that if you make Ebay Jedi very unwelcome most quit.
Yep, and since they bought it at Ebay as you just said...They will just resell it again and the cycle starts over which was my point.
But then again, did you just get done tellingus not many players sell their Jedi accounts on ebay. So which is it? Could you make up your mind?
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-25-200512:56 PM
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-25-200512:56 PM
Cada_Kai wrote:
Pretty soon people see that there is something more dark then Jedi. More menacing than the Sabers, and Powers they Display. They Find another class Maybe Bounty hunter, Maybe RifleMan, that is more powerful then them in GCW fighting.
Grimjakk wrote:
Cada_Kai wrote:
Pretty soon people see that there is something more dark then Jedi. More menacing than the Sabers, and Powers they Display. They Find another class Maybe Bounty hunter, Maybe RifleMan, that is more powerful then them in GCW fighting.
Pre CU, yeah. But post CU there actually IS better balance between the combat professions than there has ever been.
Personally, wouldn't you rather see thegame at apoint where the devs were justtweaking balance between, say, TKM, smuggler, and bounty hunters than seeing them take a machete to Jedi yet again because of the overwhelming popularity of the one Alpha class?
The best solution in my opinion is not to make separate servers, but to (re)make a separate endgame that rewards the Jedi for factional conflict with other Jedi, but punishes them for meddling in the general endgame. Create an FRS system with big rewards for Jedi-on-Jedi fights, but HUGE penalties for Jedi-on-Normal losses and no rewards for victories. Then you canbalance your alpha class powers against themselves,and use your alt in the regular end-game without discouraging non-alpha class players from participating. Huge FRS penalties for
dieing to a "mundane" would go a long way toward making VIS something for even finished template players to avoid.
Eraser_BH wrote:
Ulrek_Oden wrote:
And BTW who would want to be a MBH in that server... To only hunt NPCs????
You do realize there are 30 plus other professions besides BH and Jedi, right?
I can see it now.
The non-Jedi server goes into play. Several people join the server to experience Non-Jedi gameplay and GCW fun.
Pretty soon people see that there is something more dark then Jedi. More menacing than the Sabers, and Powers they Display. They Find another class Maybe Bounty hunter, Maybe RifleMan, that is more powerful then them in GCW fighting.
The Flame wars begin Nerf this, nerf that. After Awhile there is nothing left to nerf. Then come the calls. "Devs please make a Non-InsertHatedProfessionOfTheMonth (HPOTM) Server for all of us to enjoy.!" "The game was much better before Riflemen/BountyHunters ruled the galaxy."
Once a whiner, always a whiner. They will just find new things to complain about.
Cada_Kai wrote:
Once a whiner, always a whiner. They will just find new things to complain about.
In other words, you are whining about whiners?
