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Thread: Bounty Hunter Prestige System

Enix_Dayspring
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:00 am
#14






Karbal wrote:

Although this idea sounds good on paper .. it would destroy what is left of balance in the game. EVERY non jedi player will of course flock to the growing bounty hunter ranks .. in the end it will turn into SWG: Jedi vs BH .. there will be no other professions in the game.






AHHHHH, but they won't!


Just like now, with the respec bounty hunters hunting Jedi and very few of them succeeding. Just because you carry the Bounty Hunter tag does not make you succesful. Just like just because you carry the Jedi tag doesnt mean that a good Bounty Hunter can't take you out.


The wonderful thing about the prestige system is that if you're not a good bounty hunter, you don't advance. Anybody can take the Master Bounty Hunter skill box. But with the prestige system, if you can't kill your marks, you get no rewards and make no advancment.


When this happens, we will reach an equillibrium between the players who just have the Bounty Hunter skill set for the specials, and those who are Boba Fett quality hunters.


Only those that can kill their marks will advance, and if you read it carefully, the further they go along, the more difficult their marks will be.



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Grendiel
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:18 am
#15


Enix_Dayspring wrote:


Karbal wrote:

Although this idea sounds good on paper .. it would destroy what is left of balance in the game. EVERY non jedi player will of course flock to the growing bounty hunter ranks .. in the end it will turn into SWG: Jedi vs BH .. there will be no other professions in the game.



AHHHHH, but they won't!
Just like now, with the respec bounty hunters hunting Jedi and very few of them succeeding. Just because you carry the Bounty Hunter tag does not make you succesful. Just like just because you carry the Jedi tag doesnt mean that a good Bounty Hunter can't take you out.
The wonderful thing about the prestige system is that if you're not a good bounty hunter, you don't advance. Anybody can take the Master Bounty Hunter skill box. But with the prestige system, if you can't kill your marks, you get no rewards and make no advancment.
When this happens, we will reach an equillibrium between the players who just have the Bounty Hunter skill set for the specials, and those who are Boba Fett quality hunters.
Only those that can kill their marks will advance, and if you read it carefully, the further they go along, the more difficult their marks will be.





That's a good point, but...

At least bounty hunters have the ability to get these bonuses against Jedi, whereas the rest don't. With Jedi being the strongest profession, and bounty hunters being the only ones with special bonuses catered to defeating Jedi, it would kind of make bounty hunter the profession to be in order to compete with the Jedi...






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Enix_Dayspring
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:31 am
#16






Grendiel wrote:




Enix_Dayspring wrote:






Karbal wrote:

Although this idea sounds good on paper .. it would destroy what is left of balance in the game. EVERY non jedi player will of course flock to the growing bounty hunter ranks .. in the end it will turn into SWG: Jedi vs BH .. there will be no other professions in the game.






AHHHHH, but they won't!


Just like now, with the respec bounty hunters hunting Jedi and very few of them succeeding. Just because you carry the Bounty Hunter tag does not make you succesful. Just like just because you carry the Jedi tag doesnt mean that a good Bounty Hunter can't take you out.


The wonderful thing about the prestige system is that if you're not a good bounty hunter, you don't advance. Anybody can take the Master Bounty Hunter skill box. But with the prestige system, if you can't kill your marks, you get no rewards and make no advancment.


When this happens, we will reach an equillibrium between the players who just have the Bounty Hunter skill set for the specials, and those who are Boba Fett quality hunters.


Only those that can kill their marks will advance, and if you read it carefully, the further they go along, the more difficult their marks will be.







That's a good point, but...

At least bounty hunters have the ability to get these bonuses against Jedi, whereas the rest don't. With Jedi being the strongest profession, and bounty hunters being the only ones with special bonuses catered to defeating Jedi, it would kind of make bounty hunter the profession to be in order to compete with the Jedi...





Not compete WITH Jedi, but compete AGAINST them. And isn't that what we want? Isn't that the way the whole system is set up? If I'm a PvPer that wants the ultimate challenge, a Jedi, then I become a Bounty Hunter.


Now I assume you're talking about as far as PvP outside of Bounty Hunter missions go, i.e. the GCW.


Again it comes down to, are you any good at being a 1 vs. 1 Bounty Hunter? That really has nothing to do with whether or not you're a good team player in a faction gank squad. So lets sayeveryone becomes a MBH so that I can handle any Jedi that show up during faction fighting. Well, then you are missing the team combinations that can make faction fighting so interesting. And when you run into a balanced faction team, a team of all bounty hunters whose only special ability is really against Jedi, would get creamed.


I really think it all balances out. You have people that are simply not good at 1 vs 1 PvP, they will not advance far in the prestige system to get to the higher end rewards. But even if you DO get a large number of people getting those rewards, they are still no better off against non-Jedi players as any other profession and can even become unbalanced. This will lead to them getting stomped in the GCW arena.


I think it would really be interesting to see how it all turned out.





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Grendiel
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:12 am
#17


Enix_Dayspring wrote:
Not compete WITH Jedi, but compete AGAINST them. And isn't that what we want? Isn't that the way the whole system is set up? If I'm a PvPer that wants the ultimate challenge, a Jedi, then I become a Bounty Hunter.

Now I assume you're talking about as far as PvP outside of Bounty Hunter missions go, i.e. the GCW.

Again it comes down to, are you any good at being a 1 vs. 1 Bounty Hunter? That really has nothing to do with whether or not you're a good team player in a faction gank squad. So lets say everyone becomes a MBH so that I can handle any Jedi that show up during faction fighting. Well, then you are missing the team combinations that can make faction fighting so interesting. And when you run into a balanced faction team, a team of all bounty hunters whose only special ability is really against Jedi, would get creamed.

I really think it all balances out. You have people that are simply not good at 1 vs 1 PvP, they will not advance far in the prestige system to get to the higher end rewards. But even if you DO get a large number of people getting those rewards, they are still no better off against non-Jedi players as any other profession and can even become unbalanced. This will lead to them getting stomped in the GCW arena.

I think it would really be interesting to see how it all turned out.






What you're saying makes sense, but people will still view BH as being a means of competing against Jedi. I just feel that one should not have to be a BH in order to fight Jedi. BH should be a means of hunting, not fighting... By offering bonuses against Jedi that are exclusive to BH's, it makes the other professions less viable to fight Jedi (in comparison to BH's)..






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pain-bringer
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:03 pm
#18

sounds to me like you are afraid of actually being competed with. all the jedi do when something is mentioned about balancing them out and making them beatable is cry. you just don't like the idea of actually being able to be beat when your a jedi. all you jedi think that just because your a jedi you should automatically win in pvp or whatever else.
Sunrunner_Cixx
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:07 pm
#19






pain-bringer wrote:

sounds to me like you are afraid of actually being competed with. all the jedi do when something is mentioned about balancing them out and making them beatable is cry. you just don't like the idea of actually being able to be beat when your a jedi. all you jedi think that just because your a jedi you should automatically win in pvp or whatever else.




mabey you should read my post im Jedi and i know alot of jedi rather have a challenging system. One thing we wont accept is being "just another profession"




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pain-bringer
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:12 pm
#20


sorry i should have quoted the post. but what i said was in reference to what rennai had said.
Sunrunner_Cixx
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:16 pm
#21






pain-bringer wrote:


sorry i should have quoted the post. but what i said was in reference to what rennai had said.





"all the jedi do when something is mentioned about balancing them out and making them beatable is cry." That is the statement i was refering to. NOT ALL Jedi are like this.




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Luke: I can't believe it....
Yoda: That is why you fail....
pain-bringer
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:18 pm
#22

well you are one of not many then.
Sunrunner_Cixx
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:25 pm
#23

you would be surprised at how many rather have something challenging. Those tend to be the less vocal you mostly hear the vocal ones and there are quite a few but not the majority i feel.




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Luke: I can't believe it....
Yoda: That is why you fail....
iijin
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:25 pm
#24






Sunrunner_Cixx wrote:





pain-bringer wrote:

sounds to me like you are afraid of actually being competed with. all the jedi do when something is mentioned about balancing them out and making them beatable is cry. you just don't like the idea of actually being able to be beat when your a jedi. all you jedi think that just because your a jedi you should automatically win in pvp or whatever else.




mabey you should read my post im Jedi and i know alot of jedi rather have a challenging system. One thing we wont accept is being "just another profession"





Thats all you are now, "just another profession" everybody and their moms alt is a jedi



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Sunrunner_Cixx
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:27 pm
#25






iijin wrote:





Sunrunner_Cixx wrote:





pain-bringer wrote:

sounds to me like you are afraid of actually being competed with. all the jedi do when something is mentioned about balancing them out and making them beatable is cry. you just don't like the idea of actually being able to be beat when your a jedi. all you jedi think that just because your a jedi you should automatically win in pvp or whatever else.




mabey you should read my post im Jedi and i know alot of jedi rather have a challenging system. One thing we wont accept is being "just another profession"





Thats all you are now, "just another profession" everybody and their moms alt is a jedi




well my main is a Jedi my alt is a MBH my wife plays. When you unlock your toon you unlock with becomes your Jedi now. Been that way a good while now.




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Yoda: Do or Do not, There is no try...
Luke: I can't believe it....
Yoda: That is why you fail....
pain-bringer
Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:40 pm
#26






iijin wrote:





Sunrunner_Cixx wrote:





pain-bringer wrote:

sounds to me like you are afraid of actually being competed with. all the jedi do when something is mentioned about balancing them out and making them beatable is cry. you just don't like the idea of actually being able to be beat when your a jedi. all you jedi think that just because your a jedi you should automatically win in pvp or whatever else.




mabey you should read my post im Jedi and i know alot of jedi rather have a challenging system. One thing we wont accept is being "just another profession"





Thats all you are now, "just another profession" everybody and their moms alt is a jedi





holy god you got that right. i am so sick of seeing nothing but lightsabers and force powers everywhere i go. and forget about any kind of GCW battle unless you have a group of nothing but jedi cause that's damn sure what your gonna go up against.
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