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Thread: Please change lightsaber damage to Kinetic(READ!)

SWGuy2005
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:07 am
#14


Thank you Jedi_XAN!





SWGuy2005
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:13 am
#15

Its a work around for the Armor problem..I gave serveral solutions!
Jedi_Xan
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:15 am
#16






Shender wrote:





Jedi_Xan wrote:





PantherXVI wrote:
BH's wear armor so that we can wear Mando armor, and compaining about BHs getting to wear assault armor is silly since you are going to have to master some other combat profession to be effective and unless you pick commando, you're going to get battle or recon armor, which has better energy resists. So stop whining, and go pick up rifleman or pistoleer if you want high energy resist armor.





Listen to what you just said. And then think about how off the wall that is.


You are a BH. You take on NPC's. What do MOST of those NPC's wield? ENERGY blasters, and LS's (also Energy).


Now I ask you. Why? are you certified to wear KINETIC armor which does NOT resist against energy? Does that make ANY sense to you. (ok, so maybe I am overemphasizing here)


BH's should be battle armor certified, not assault. In fact, Commando, SL, and BH should be battle certed, while ranger, CH, and the brawlers should be assault. I think someone really screwed this up.









Dude, it's because MBH should be able to wear Mandalorian armor. Mandalorian armor is assault. Thus, MBH=Assault.

And what do you mean by the phrase in bold? Assault protects against Energy. Just not as much in comparison to Recon, but it does protect.





Listen 2 me....


I lost 2 (TWO) fights to jedi. They were my second and third. You know why? I'll give you 3 guess'es and the first 2 dont count.


A jedi will rip through you like a hot knife through butter. You could wear the best Assault Armor on the market, and you'll get diced like an onion.





Callale Xan
Imperial Colonel


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Cada_Kai
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:18 am
#17






Jedi_Xan wrote:





Shender wrote:





Jedi_Xan wrote:





PantherXVI wrote:
BH's wear armor so that we can wear Mando armor, and compaining about BHs getting to wear assault armor is silly since you are going to have to master some other combat profession to be effective and unless you pick commando, you're going to get battle or recon armor, which has better energy resists. So stop whining, and go pick up rifleman or pistoleer if you want high energy resist armor.





Listen to what you just said. And then think about how off the wall that is.


You are a BH. You take on NPC's. What do MOST of those NPC's wield? ENERGY blasters, and LS's (also Energy).


Now I ask you. Why? are you certified to wear KINETIC armor which does NOT resist against energy? Does that make ANY sense to you. (ok, so maybe I am overemphasizing here)


BH's should be battle armor certified, not assault. In fact, Commando, SL, and BH should be battle certed, while ranger, CH, and the brawlers should be assault. I think someone really screwed this up.









Dude, it's because MBH should be able to wear Mandalorian armor. Mandalorian armor is assault. Thus, MBH=Assault.

And what do you mean by the phrase in bold? Assault protects against Energy. Just not as much in comparison to Recon, but it does protect.





Listen 2 me....


I lost 2 (TWO) fights to jedi. They were my second and third. You know why? I'll give you 3 guess'es and the first 2 dont count.


A jedi will rip through you like a hot knife through butter. You could wear the best Assault Armor on the market, and you'll get diced like an onion.







Give up BH if they are killing you this easy. Either that or go PVP some more to learn your skills.



Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

PantherXVI
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:18 am
#18

you do realize that it isn't required for you to wear assault armor as a BH? you clearly have it marked in your sig that you are a riflemen. Well riflemen can wow recon armor. Wow! Who would have ever thought of that?



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K3nsh1n
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:21 am
#19






Jedi_Xan wrote:





PantherXVI wrote:
BH's wear armor so that we can wear Mando armor, and compaining about BHs getting to wear assault armor is silly since you are going to have to master some other combat profession to be effective and unless you pick commando, you're going to get battle or recon armor, which has better energy resists. So stop whining, and go pick up rifleman or pistoleer if you want high energy resist armor.





Listen to what you just said. And then think about how off the wall that is.


You are a BH. You take on NPC's. What do MOST of those NPC's wield? ENERGY blasters, and LS's (also Energy).


Now I ask you. Why? are you certified to wear KINETIC armor which does NOT resist against energy? Does that make ANY sense to you. (ok, so maybe I am overemphasizing here)


BH's should be battle armor certified, not assault. In fact, Commando, SL, and BH should be battle certed, while ranger, CH, and the brawlers should be assault. I think someone really screwed this up.








Are you kidding? Rangers and CH are scouts, therfore they are ment to do RECON how effective is terrain negotiation and burst run effeciency while wearing big heavy assault armor, think before u talk.



Oushi
Jedi_Xan
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:40 am
#20

oh, brother... why do I even bother. First off, I am not being killed. It has nothing to do with me. I didnt even start the dam thread. You need to tutor in reading comprehension, me thinks.


To the CH/Ranger.... think about it. How often will you run into a situation where 7000 energy resist is gonna help you. As a CH/Ranger, you will deal more with Creatures, and they deal kinetic damage mostly.


Common folks, see the bigger picture. Either the Armor types are borked, or the certifications are borked. It is one of the 2.








Callale Xan
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PantherXVI
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:55 am
#21


Jedi_Xan wrote:


Listen 2 me....

I lost 2 (TWO) fights to jedi. They were my second and third. You know why? I'll give you 3 guess'es and the first 2 dont count.

A jedi will rip through you like a hot knife through butter. You could wear the best Assault Armor on the market, and you'll get diced like an onion.






Apparently you are getting killed, you just have a bad short term memory. And I do see the big picture of things, I just see this "problem," as it seems to be for you and SWGuy, insignificant. The CU has been out for what, over two months and this is just coming up now? Maybe you should have said something during beta.

EDIT: Oh and BTW if you looked at that armorsmith thread, you'd see that there is about a 10% resist difference between unlayered capped recon and unlayered capped assault, so unless you're armor sucks or was broken, you didn't die because your armor was assault.

Message Edited by PantherXVI on 07-07-2005 03:59 PM



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omgitsJebus
Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:10 pm
#22

Honestly I feel it's just the way the certifications are distributed thats screwed up, not the properties or names.


Thinking about itfrom a military perspective -


Recon Armor has the highest Energy resists...most often since they're *theorhetically* Scouts - they'd be getting shot at above all else, and physical ranged weapons are supposedly not all that common in the Star Wars universe


Assault Armor has the highest Kinetic...the name Assault implies getting up close and physical with the enemy, which would involve exchanging physical blows


Battle Armor is somewhat balanced...decent in both but not exceptional in either - the armor for the cannon fodder...shooting, beating...doesnt matter because you're supposed to die anyway, it'll just help you die *slightly* slower



So it's really the way the certifications are distributed thats the issue



Too bad the NGE is here to stay.. till the next time SOE decides to "Upgrade" the game futher
Grimjakk
Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:33 pm
#23

Maybe if they hadn't adopted the terms recon/battle/assault there wouldn't be so much drama here...


They shoulda just called 'em energy/battle/kinetic.


Then they couldn've put them where they made the most sense. Creature hunters need more kinetic protection than energy... PvP'rs and Combatants need more energy protection. Certing energy armor to Riflemen and battle armor to Carbineers for instance makes perfect sense to me... certing kinetic armor to BH makes... less sense.



Grimjakk Ghostripper / Master Bounty Hunter - Sunrunner
Where DEATH has no price, LIFE has no value.
"You're no Jedi. You're just someone with a fancy sword and a few parlor tricks."
Dookseid
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:20 pm
#24






Grimjakk wrote:

Maybe if they hadn't adopted the terms recon/battle/assault there wouldn't be so much drama here...


They shoulda just called 'em energy/battle/kinetic.


Then they couldn've put them where they made the most sense. Creature hunters need more kinetic protection than energy... PvP'rs and Combatants need more energy protection. Certing energy armor to Riflemen and battle armor to Carbineers for instance makes perfect sense to me... certing kinetic armor to BH makes... less sense.






They did it this way because they are trying to steer you in the direction of what they want your other profession to be based on what armor you have to have for your first and main profession.....



There are always alterior motives.....


Message Edited by Dookseid on 07-08-2005 11:21 PM



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