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Thread: the Jedi BH

fortune_chim
Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:59 am
#14

MBH, MPowers, Heal 1000.


Basic infusion, 500 point heals + stims and ruby bliel.


All the BH specials (KD, Critical, Torso) plus:


Force knockdown, lightning, choke, cloak........



oh.... and breach....


You couldn't take a great deal of damage - in fact you couldn't take ANY damage, but with this much ranged power, would you need to? Breach+Choke+Lightning+BH KD+Critical+Lightning+Torso


Course, you'll rack up vis doing this
corthreat
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:39 am
#15






santoro wrote:
Just having cloak from jedi would be a serious waste of skillpoints with the ranger makeover coming along.





I don't know much about the ranger revamp...

I'd love to see the Jedi when his BH just cloaks away

or go smuggler... Feign Death just fails almost every time when you need it, but it's fun too



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corthreat
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:54 am
#16






Dirk_Pfeiffer wrote:





magneto2 wrote:

they used to be good, but the skill points run u thin now, and ull get pwnt


but it sounds fun, dont know how much good cloak will do ya, may help hunting noob jedi


IMO, force drain would be a better skill to pick up, nothing worse than a BH draining your force









LMAO

No way. AFAIK that Sithlord dude was only able to kill noob jedi, i.e. not full templated jedi that just dropped some of their former PvP template. Do a forumsearch for postings from MasterKarrem on BRIA and have fun reading.








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Jacella
Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:48 am
#17






corthreat wrote:


Are there any Jedi BHs hunting Jediout there? I know it's strange, you have to be MBH, but you still have 105 SP left, that can be spent in Jedi (or other) skills.


I was thinking of MBH (121 SP) + FS (24 SP) + 4044CM (77 SP) and 0400 powers (28 SP) = 250 SP


What do you think? Any template suggestions?





There is a patch soon that will make it so you need a ls equipped to use force powers, so all hybrid temps will no longer be viable. The other thing is that you are nerfing yourself too much for cloak. You won't have enough force to maintain it for any length of time and with the added snare, it will be worthless. Save your skillpoints and do a duel mastery non-jedi temp with CM or Doc and you will be much stronger than most of the jedi you will face.





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xakia
Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:04 am
#18

Cloak and a rifle can't be so bad. Imagine how many times you can set yourself up for sniper shot on your alpha strike. With that you could have an alpha, beta, whatever strike. The BHes that hunted you would prolly be pretty easy prey using the same tactic, that is, if its available.







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trifidac
Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:54 am
#19

I imagine sooner or later the ability to use Jedi skills without a LS will be gone, I am currently working on MBH/Def 4400/Pistoleer 0004/Medic 0020, should be alright with about 300 melee/range defense potential, slight concern with defender 4400 is that if I want to not wear armor in PVE then one day they might take out the ability to use Jedi innate armor without using a LS as well but in the mean time with pistoleer 0004 I can wear 8K energy recon or 6K energy layered assault armor.




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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:12 am
#20

The problem with most of the split templates is that what you gain from one..... requires much loss from the other. for instance, Trifidac has the Def 4400..... but what it cost him to get it was three lines of Pistols and a Line in CM 4000. He got no extra damage output, worse heals.... all so that he can hunt without armor on.



From the many different templates that I have looked at.... there seem to only be4 worth taking for Hunting jedi.


MBH / MPist / Powers 0400 - this is my goal (I have powers 0300), the idea is to uncloak, equip armor and pound em when they are low on force/health. But can still maintain a decent fight if they don't go down right away.


MBH / MRifle / Powers 0400 - The idea is to uncloak, snipershot, crit shot, etc..... cloak, go to 80 m (cyber arms) and decloak, rinse, repeat.


MBH / Menhancer - You get to hunt without armor (force armor Enh 0400), get speed buffs, a root, a snare, etc, etc.


MBH / MPowers - All your acc from both stack, so you can do more damage than any other Powers jedi ever.... but it's another hit and run tactic.




But the template that really looks fun, is this......


TKM / MPowers / Healer 4000 - TK has innate armor that stacks with your 2k padawan armor (very nice) plus ranged and melee attacks, and healing. Need to conserve force for heals? just equip a bad ass katarn knuckler and go to it.



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trifidac
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:22 am
#21

This is true, sacrificing extra offense for defender 4400, but the chances of a Jedi actually hitting me will be almost as good as a pre CU Fencer/pistoleer stacker with capped dodge, I have fought a MBH/MSquadleader that had around 310 melee/range defense and he was damn hard to hit with tons of misses, and with medic 0020 I can still get around 1070+ heals.

So I'll give it a shot and see how it holds up.




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Spartan-17
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:27 am
#22





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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:33 am
#23






Jacella wrote:





corthreat wrote:


Are there any Jedi BHs hunting Jediout there? I know it's strange, you have to be MBH, but you still have 105 SP left, that can be spent in Jedi (or other) skills.


I was thinking of MBH (121 SP) + FS (24 SP) + 4044CM (77 SP) and 0400 powers (28 SP) = 250 SP


What do you think? Any template suggestions?





There is a patch soon that will make it so you need a ls equipped to use force powers, so all hybrid temps will no longer be viable. The other thing is that you are nerfing yourself too much for cloak. You won't have enough force to maintain it for any length of time and with the added snare, it will be worthless. Save your skillpoints and do a duel mastery non-jedi temp with CM or Doc and you will be much stronger than most of the jedi you will face.





not true...... As long as cloak is still at powers 0400, you could still easily do the following hybrids....


MBH / MPist / Powers 0400


MBH / MRifle / Powers 0400


TKM / MPowers / Medic 0040





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Penguinzx
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:44 am
#24

I finally unlocked last week, so I'm currently working on building my MBH/Jedi hybrid template. The template I'm looking at will be:


MBH/Enhancer 4404/Powers 0400 with 9 sp left over that will either go into novice defender, healer, or 3 boxes of rifles.


This will give me a force pool of 2500(2700 with defender or healer), force armor, force drain, force speed, suppression, run, wave, absorb, feedback, channel, meditate, and cloak. IMHO this is enough tricks to justify the SP expenditure, and gives me enough of a force pool to actually use them.


The basic premise of my combat strategy is to avoid getting hit, simple as that. I may or may not use cloak to approach my mark, as I won't be wearing armor and will be carrying an LS, I likely won't need to the extra stealth to get in close enough to begin my assault(32m). Obviously I will want to wait until they have had a chance to burn off a little force first, so catching them after combat is always the idea. Finally, I don't necessarily intend to win the fight on the first engagement. This is a hit and run template. The idea is to drain their force to the point of them being completely combat ineffective.


To open the attack I am planning to lead with suppression, I want them rooted or snared for a good portion of the fight. Once they are rooted, it's just a matter of alternating critical shot and torso shot with force drain as it's available, keep them healing to burn off more force. If they manage to catch up to me, then it's time for force armor, KD, force run 2, cloak. I intend to break off the fight if they get into a position to damage me. Provided I didn't take too much damage, I can channel or meditate to regen some force and re-engage when I see fit.



And for all those that keep saying BH/Jedi hybrids will be completely ruined by the "no powers without an LS equipped" change, I will say it again. It makes no difference. I run duelist stance while wielding an LS all the time as it is. There is no combat delay for switching weapons in combat. You can switch weapons, perform an action and switch back without losing any time. All you would have to do is write a macro for either force powers, or BH shots, that switched to the appropriate weapon, performed the attack, and switched back to the previous weapon and you would never even need to think about it.


Okay, that's probably long enough. And of course that's all theory right now, I'll have to see if it works to plan in a week or two when I'm actually finished my template.



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RAMBOW
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:52 am
#25






magneto2 wrote:

they used to be good, but the skill points run u thin now, and ull get pwnt


but it sounds fun, dont know how much good cloak will do ya, may help hunting noob jedi


IMO, force drain would be a better skill to pick up, nothing worse than a BH draining your force







ahhh your just saying that because I killed you twicewith my Jedi/BH who had MLS and Drain and cloak god i loved that tempalte...



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