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Thread: are you even *trying* to kill me?

Kaque
Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:34 am
#14






luko-vandora wrote:

look u need 8.1 recon with a 75% armor break slice 25 pistol/carbs/rifles (what ever ur temp it) speed 25 gen speed 25 defence(to w/e ur temp is) 25 gen acc 25 acc (to w/e ur temp is) and a uber gun with a 30% sac pup





Any chance for a translation here?




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wildcat84
Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:44 am
#15

I've more or less decided to not fight a BH once I determine he's MCM. The fight is a waste of time (lasts at least 20 mins) for ZERO reward even if I win (since they broke speed I'm only about .500 against them).

So it's going to be force supression/force wave/force run and out for me from now on.

Now if a BH wants to use some imagination and not FOTM, I'll honor him with a fight.



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TonieStark
Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:18 am
#16


Not sure of your server but there areBHs on Chilastra that would ahve killed you in 3 or 4 shots if you did not have your aura up. I myself might have taken a bit longer but you would have died if you did not try to kill me back in less than 30 seconds (If I am not worrying about joggin and healing , all I am doing is laying down fire , shot after shot) .


I do have an elite scatter pistol, (1.3 speed, 1021 damage (pupped) 66 SAC). I pop pyro right before the first shot , so rarely will miss in the first few minutes and I will also paralyze and get two dots in before it breaks (fire and poison when they are working) you wont last 30 seconds not fighting back even if your MDEF with Aura up (hell maybe not 20.


However also having a jedi I can testify to what you are saying . I am MDEF and usually the fight can go on forever when I have aura and infusion up. I think it boils down to : BH and his equipment and skill. Some servers are going to have large numbers of skilled combantants. You will die on Chilastra not fighting back and checking your log alot more times than you wont. If you are on Chilastra , I need your luck as I regrind a tree for my Jedi, so I can keep grindng while the BH blast away.


Message Edited by TonieStark on 10-02-2005 08:24 AM



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acdc44
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:22 am
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lately ive had some odd visits from bhs that made me check my log to see if they were actually shooting me. i must have fought 5 in a row that couldnt get pass my infusion. i dismissed them as being amateur but the last one i fought he got upset and asked me what was going on.

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The last 3 or 4 BH's that have come for my jedi, have had the same problem. I am concerned that something is broken concerning either 1) jedi innate armor or 2) the manner in which dmg is calculated when wearing a psg and using aura and either innate or force armor.


I tested this last night with a guild mate and used two different builds as the attacker:


MBH/MC/CM4000 is my primary toon's template, I play her day in and out and know the template very well.


Her accuracy with this rifle (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=320911&poll_id=0&warned=y) is 250ish. Using pyro, without a psg and aura, I hit most of the time, and very hard, on the average for 700 to 800 points using mixed specials.


With aura and a psg going, I hit my friend for a consistant 250 to 300 dmg, and missed roughly half the time, in short nothing force infusion could not easily keep up with.


Thinking it might be the accuracy at work, I logged in my hunting char, she is MC/MR/Doc0004 her accuracy with her skill tapes and the rifle pictured above is over 400. Using advanced aim and pyro for an additonal bonus to accuracy, I hit for the exact same amount as I did with my MBH/MC toon. Not close...exactly.....



Leads me to believe that accuracy is well and truly broke at this point, or that there is a modification to aura that we are not aware of.



I play a full template jedi, a BH and several other toons. If this is not addressed you will see the end of any diversity in BH templates, and I will hate that almost as much as you hardcore jedi hunters will. I hate the MBH/MCM fights, they take entirely to long to decide a victor, and many times I will bail rather than waste the hour it takes to decide that we can not kill each other.






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NoStyleGuy
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:52 am
#18

there definatley seems to be some change in the combat code. either how accuracy affects damage, or how defense mitigates it.



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Skyyr
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:58 am
#19






luko-vandora wrote:

look u need 8.1 recon with a 75% armor break slice 25 pistol/carbs/rifles (what ever ur temp it) speed 25 gen speed 25 defence(to w/e ur temp is) 25 gen acc 25 acc (to w/e ur temp is) and a uber gun with a 30% sac pup



ull kill every jedi u c



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Nathanielstarr
Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:04 pm
#20

I have a 381-966 damage fwg that I pup to 510-1064 andwith my best attacks I hit these jedi for about 250 at best. But I'm a hell of a sticker and mover. The trick is surviving the Jedi and wearing them out not to out damage their healing. A jedi with everything running is hard to kill. But Ive killed these jedi before. It just takes time. You have to be the better man....you'll be taking 400-700 damage a hit (if you have terrific armor) while they are taking 250. You have the healing advantage BUT they have every other advantage. Nothing worse than doing such low damage and THEN you miss half the time. But with root and knockdown you can wear out their force and survive.


DeeckTator
Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:53 pm
#21






Neopole2 wrote:

my temp is mbh/mp and some healing, and due to FS stuff im missing alot of points...



point is i suck VS jedi, and i get my tail wooped when i take jedi mission... and i consider my weapon ver good...



i have no idea where im going with this...





Since you mention loosing lots of points on FS I guess MP is powers not pistol I guess you dont use armor to be able to use powers, in that case no wonder you can't win. If MP is psitol you should be able to do ok with a good gun, the right food and armor and MBH/MP/CM4000

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AelricMistrider
Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:27 pm
#22



Skyyr wrote:


luko-vandora wrote:

look u need 8.1 recon with a 75% armor break slice 25 pistol/carbs/rifles (what ever ur temp it) speed 25 gen speed 25 defence(to w/e ur temp is) 25 gen acc 25 acc (to w/e ur temp is) and a uber gun with a 30% sac pup

ull kill every jedi u c

LUKO VANDORA

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It would be nice if Carbs could wear that 8.1k energy resist Recon armor, but we are a little limited in our choices. We can either wear capped Battle or Assault (considerably lower) for somewhat similar results. But yes, get that Armor Break sliced and you should be better. As for weaponry, that's a tougher choice, based on what your template is.




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DarenX
Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:59 am
#23

I made a post about this earlier, even if i lost to jedi I always drained the force bar and could keep up with heals for a solid 10mins while dealing the same or even more damage then the jedi(All kinds of jedi including MDef). The last week of hunting I have embarassed myself with hunting. I have decent mods and 1.9s 435-1064dam with 389bdps and 660mdps 73sac. Lets just say its extremely rare if i hit jedi for 400 average is 80-200 apose to 400-800 which i was use to. Some of these jedi are not even fully temped or Mdef's. I said something to one jedi after the fight out of frustation after I layed 10 solid specials and didnt phase the jedi. Normally i dont say anything just to avoid the flames from the jedi(most of them would not even consider somthing is wrong)

I know alot of BH's are into ig testing and if somone would like to figure out what the heck is going on id very much appreciate it.



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